Big bore magazines & followers

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I thought I’d start a new thread for this instead of adding to my Beowulf thread, as some of the info might be useful for 450 BM, 458 SOCOM, etc.

Here’s what the follower in a Beowulf mag from Alexander Arms looks like. I’ve never had an issue with them feeding. You’ll see in a later pic how high up the round sits. These have been slightly modified...I ground a slight semi-circle in the front based on the D&H mags I’ll post down below. I don’t have any reason to think it was necessary, but I was on a roll with the Dremel. :oops:

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I have two of those mags, the 7rd that came with the upper and a 10rd I bought later. When I bought my second Beowulf upper a couple months ago I decided I wanted another few bags. Saw that D&H sells a version for 12.7x42 and ordered two since D&H has worked well for me with 6.8 (I have some one 5.56 but don’t think I’ve ever used them). Here’s what the mag and follower looks like. Since the round sits a lot lower, they come with the deeper cutout in the front:

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At a quick glance, the mag body of these and my 5.56 look identical, with just a different follower.

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Feed lips look to be the same shape...so I emailed D&H to see if they’d sell me some Big Bore followers. This is mainly because D&H and AA both want ~$25 for a 10rd Beowulf mag, 2X-3X the price of a 5.56. They replied to say they normally don’t sell them, but he’d send me a couple if I gave him an address. I’d included a pic of the two I bought just to prove I was a paying customer. So imagine my surprise when just a couple days later I get 5 followers in a padded envelope...yet they look like the green one instead of the black one:

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but they look a LOT like the blue ones in the AA mags:
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The Beowulf ARs are both built with Magpul foliage green accessories. I’ve seen people mention using standard PMags with just a little modification, so I hunted down some foliage colored PMags to see what I could do. Note: I painted all the metal mags shown, as they all came black. I also found a 3D printer pattern for Beowulf in a PMag, and had a CFF member volunteer to print me a few. Here’s a standard 5.56 PMag follower compared to the ones I had printed:

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The printed versions arrived last night and I messed around with them a little. Unfortunately I ran into some issues. The design has a little tab on the back that prevents the round from sliding all the way back, and that results in the nose of the bullet hitting a little peg inside the body that smaller rounds bypass on each side. You can see the gap behind the round and the nose getting hung up on this pic:

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So I looked at the D&H follower, which was the only one with a “center channel” and saw it didn’t have a little tab on the back. I’m aware it’s a metal mag vs a PMag, but I decided to grind the tab off anyway. Here’s a 3D with the tab, one with it ground off, and the D&H Big Bore showing no tab:

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After the grind, the round slides to the rear of the mag. I was able to load 5 rounds and easily flip them all out with my thumb. I did run a file across the little peg just to take the tip of it off as well. You can see the round hits the back of the mag here:

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and misses the little peg here:

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I’ve cut a similar notch in the metal and polymer mags. The PMag with the 3D follower definitely needed a deeper notch cut. Here’s a pic of the mag & follower variety. L-R is:

PMag with 5.56 follower
AA with Beowulf follower
D&H with big bore follower
D&H with 5.56 follower
D&H with replacement follower
PMag with 3D Beowulf follower

(just noticed how washed out the yellow 5.56 follower is...sorry)

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And here’s the same mags with one round loaded:

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See how much higher up the AA mag allows the nose to be? (2nd from left) I’m assuming that’s why the mag didn’t come with a scoop cut out of the front. I was a little surprised the replacement D&H follower that looks just like the AA variant doesn’t sit up as high.

I going to take all these to the range Friday with 4-5 rounds loaded. Hoping all work just fine.
 
Have you tried using any Lancer AWM magazines for the big bores? Ive had alot of success with them in 12.7x42mm applications. They feed suprisingly smooth and do not seem to require any mods to work well.
 
Have you tried using any Lancer AWM magazines for the big bores? Ive had alot of success with them in 12.7x42mm applications. They feed suprisingly smooth and do not seem to require any mods to work well.
I haven’t. In route to the range now with the 6 mags above, so we’ll see how it goes.
 
Im looking foreward to hearing about the results!
 
Im looking foreward to hearing about the results!
I think we ended up trying four of the mags? Only issue I remember was one with the modified PMag and 3D printed lower. Round got jammed up and didn’t chamber.
 
Id heard the pmags can work well, but the little pointed peg needs to be removed. I wonder if thats what caused that one to hang up? Perhaps next run you can give that a shot and see if it runs better with the 3d printed follower.
 
Possibly. The little peg was slightly ground down ahead of time. But that round might’ve slid forward. I think it was the 4th (of 5) round down.
 
Have you tried using any Lancer AWM magazines for the big bores? Ive had alot of success with them in 12.7x42mm applications. They feed suprisingly smooth and do not seem to require any mods to work well.
Lancer mags are all I use with my 450 Bushmaster now. They've been very reliable.
 
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