Blew apart

I swear I didn't see those the first time I looked.

Anyhow...curious if HTA has responded. They are notoriously silent
 
11B CIB said:
@Butter Any pics of the damage?

Any HTA response?
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They have been silent since I sent the initial email almost 2 weeks ago, I left more voice mails and another email this morning with these pics. Luckily we have a fatigue specialist at work, he dove into it a bit and pretty much said the threads were cut with no quality. I forwarded his exact response to HTA
S03 - secondary root cracking along OD surface 16X (00000002).jpg S02 - torsional fracture at thread root. Multiple fracture origins. 8X (00000002).jpg S01 - torsional fracture at thread root. Multiple fracture origins. 8X (00000002).jpg
 
Butter said:
They have been silent since I sent the initial email almost 2 weeks ago, I left more voice mails and another email this morning with these pics. Luckily we have a fatigue specialist at work, he dove into it a bit and pretty much said the threads were cut with no quality. I forwarded his exact response to HTA
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If they end up telling you to go pound sand and you want another 9mm suppressor, we will sell you a quality one at our cost.
It sucks that the suppressor failed like that.
 
Keep us posted. If they dont make this right they'll be screwing themselves out of a lot of potential customers!
 
Butter said:
They have been silent since I sent the initial email almost 2 weeks ago, I left more voice mails and another email this morning with these pics. Luckily we have a fatigue specialist at work, he dove into it a bit and pretty much said the threads were cut with no quality. I forwarded his exact response to HTA
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Just my own opinion, but the metal looks like it wasn't properly heat treated.
 
With some initial hesitation I resorted to posting my problem to social media. We'll see where it goes now, cause it wasn't going no where before
 
HOLY SHEET.......UPDATE!!!!!!!!

Looks like my Instagram post helped. They will be sending a new can. Coincidence it was taken care of less than 24 hrs after posting?


"As we discussed, the cause for the failure was using the booster on a fixed barrel carbine and it would not typically be covered under warranty. I also mentioned that we would make an exception and replace the suppressor with our gen 2 Guardian 9 under warranty. Please provide contact info for your local SOT so I can request their FFL/SOT copies so we can begin the transfer. Let me know if you have any questions."
 
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Butter said:
"As we discussed, the cause for the failure was using the booster on a fixed barrel carbine and it would not typically be covered under warranty. I also mentioned that we would make an exception and replace the suppressor with our gen 2 Guardian 9 under warranty. Please provide contact info for your local SOT so I can request their FFL/SOT copies so we can begin the transfer. Let me know if you have any questions."
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Did I miss that explanation earlier? Were you using the can on a fixed barrel with the spring still in the booster instead of a fixed mount or FBS?

Are they covering the cost of the stamp as well?
 
BigWaylon said:
Did I miss that explanation earlier? Were you using the can on a fixed barrel with the spring still in the booster instead of a fixed mount or FBS?

Are they covering the cost of the stamp as well?
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The spring was still in it, I had no idea that it was a problem.
 
SCshooter57 said:
Is it possible to translate this into language a 'non-suppressor owner but wanna be' can understand?
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A pistol suppressor has a part called a booster, or LID (linear inertial decoupler), or Nielsen device...or maybe even some other names. It's basically just a spring that sits around the piston.

It's purpose is to allow a browning-action pistol to function properly with the extra weight of a suppressor hanging off the end. When fired, and the pistol starts to go through the recoil action, the spring compresses for a moment to "lighten the load" of the suppressor so the pistol functions properly.

When you use a pistol suppressor on a fixed barrel pistol or rifle, you don't need the spring. You either replace the spring with a solid tube (fixed barrel spacer) or remove the whole contraption and replace with a fixed mount...which is simply a different adapter with internal threads the same as you had on the piston. Using one with the spring when it's not necessary destroys barrel threads and damages suppressors over time.
 
For a visual representation, the booster is the piece you see on the bottom left...a silver piston, with the spring around it, and the black piston retainer ring. The fixed mount is the single black piece in the bottom right.

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And as info, the piston is the piece you change when needing a different thread pitch. Like when shooting 9, then 40, then 45 through a 45 can...or swapping from a host with metric threads to one with standard threads.
 
BigWaylon said:
A pistol suppressor has a part called a booster, or LID (linear inertial decoupler), or Nielsen device...or maybe even some other names. It's basically just a spring that sits around the piston.

It's purpose is to allow a browning-action pistol to function properly with the extra weight of a suppressor hanging off the end. When fired, and the pistol starts to go through the recoil action, the spring compresses for a moment to "lighten the load" of the suppressor so the pistol functions properly.

When you use a pistol suppressor on a fixed barrel pistol or rifle, you don't need the spring. You either replace the spring with a solid tube (fixed barrel spacer) or remove the whole contraption and replace with a fixed mount...which is simply a different adapter with internal threads the same as you had on the piston. Using one with the spring when it's not necessary destroys barrel threads and damages suppressors over time.
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BigWaylon said:
For a visual representation, the booster is the piece you see on the bottom left...a silver piston, with the spring around it, and the black piston retainer ring. The fixed mount is the single black piece in the bottom right.

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And as info, the piston is the piece you change when needing a different thread pitch. Like when shooting 9, then 40, then 45 through a 45 can...or swapping from a host with metric threads to one with standard threads.
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Awesome! Thanks
 
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