Bloomberg News: Wants A Gun Ban For Alcohol-Related Misdemeanors

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The editorial board of Bloomberg News has channeled their boss’s anti-gun attitudes and is calling for a lifetime ban on gun possession for those convicted of alcohol-related misdemeanor crimes. While the editors’ headline focuses on DUI offenders, it’s clear the anti-gun journalists want a much broader prohibition.

In Virginia, if the Bloomberg crowd had its way, residents could lose their right to keep and bear arms if they were convicted or pleaded guilty to public intoxication, purchasing liquor from an unlicensed seller, and a host of other misdemeanor crimes. That’s quite all right with the Bloomberg editors, because they view this prohibition as a sort of pre-crime intervention.
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/10/17/bloomberg-gun-ban-alcohol-related-misdemeanors/
 

Who would have guessed? Drunken gunplay is as lethal as drunken driving.


Last month, a new study confirmed a link between firearm violence and convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol. It tracked 78,878 handgun purchasers over 13 years. Purchasers with DUI convictions were more than four times as likely to be arrested for murder, rape, robbery or aggravated assault than those without.

Wait, what's the common denominator here? Alcohol! Perhaps they should be considering a ban or control of alcohol instead. :rolleyes:

Wait again... Oh, that's been tried. :rolleyes:
 
georgel said:

Who would have guessed? Drunken gunplay is as lethal as drunken driving.


Last month, a new study confirmed a link between firearm violence and convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol. It tracked 78,878 handgun purchasers over 13 years. Purchasers with DUI convictions were more than four times as likely to be arrested for murder, rape, robbery or aggravated assault than those without.

Wait, what's the common denominator here? Alcohol! Perhaps they should be considering a ban or control of alcohol instead. :rolleyes:

Wait again... Oh, that's been tried. :rolleyes:
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the common denominator is shoddy research methods.
there are already a couple articles out there picking this garbage apart.
 
georgel said:

Who would have guessed? Drunken gunplay is as lethal as drunken driving.


Last month, a new study confirmed a link between firearm violence and convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol. It tracked 78,878 handgun purchasers over 13 years. Purchasers with DUI convictions were more than four times as likely to be arrested for murder, rape, robbery or aggravated assault than those without.

Wait, what's the common denominator here? Alcohol! Perhaps they should be considering a ban or control of alcohol instead. :rolleyes:

Wait again... Oh, that's been tried. :rolleyes:
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They wont take away the alcohol, money is in it for them there.
 
"By any means necessary."
 
There was no control group that I can see in that study - it may be (and is actually quite likely) that the % of people with prior DUI convictions committing more serious crime later is even higher in a group that didn't buy a gun. Correlation does not equal causation.

They worded the description and purpose of the study to ensure that only gun buyers were studied, but it would have been better if they also showed the same rates of offending for the rest of the population.
 
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georgel said:

Who would have guessed? Drunken gunplay is as lethal as drunken driving.


Last month, a new study confirmed a link between firearm violence and convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol. It tracked 78,878 handgun purchasers over 13 years. Purchasers with DUI convictions were more than four times as likely to be arrested for murder, rape, robbery or aggravated assault than those without.

Wait, what's the common denominator here? Alcohol! Perhaps they should be considering a ban or control of alcohol instead. :rolleyes:

Wait again... Oh, that's been tried. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, they make a LOT of money from alcohol taxes and see that as easier to control!
 
OutLore said:
There was no control group that I can see in that study - it may be (and is actually quite likely) that the % of people with prior DUI convictions committing more serious crime later is even higher in a group that didn't buy a gun. Correlation does not equal causation.
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It does when it supports your predetermined position. You need to catch up with modern academics!
 
Tigard said:
1400 (ish) DUI's among them and only 35 violent crimes committed amongst those 1400.
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Correct, this was highlighted on Edward's program with Dr. Petrocelli.
Dr. Petrocelli broke the numbers down to, only 37 had a "Firearm Related Charge" , not 35 violent crimes.

Another area Dr. Petrocelli brings to light are that researchers (?) have / having access to cross referencing "Hand Gun Purchase List" with Criminal Data Bases.

 
Alcoholism/ DUI and all that is a completely different conversation. I don't believe that has anything to do with gun rights revocation to me.

I don't even drink, but I don't see any valid reason for taking a person's firearms .
 
And not it is clear why Democrats oppose ending federal pot prohibition while pushing it at the state level.
Every state that has a medical marijuana card law also reports every card holder to the federal NICS data base as a known user of illegal drugs.

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Anyone convicted of misdemeanor DUI in MA becomes banned for life under federal law because the maximum attendance is a felony level 2.5 years.
My BIL won his case. Got the breathalyzer result thrown out. He had passed the FST with flying colors. No other evidence.

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fishgutzy said:
And not it is clear why Democrats oppose ending federal pot prohibition while pushing it at the state level.
Every state that has a medical marijuana card law also reports every card holder to the federal NICS data base as a known user of illegal drugs.

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Not every state. MI didn't last time I checked. They have it written into the med card law that it is considered a real medical treatment and treated as such, and that you cannot be denied any right or privilege you would have if you didn't have a med card.
As in, you can get your med card and then get you concealed carry license without any problems.
 
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