Got it now. It looked like a plastic box, I'd have thought a bare or green would have been connected to the switch "frame" at some point.
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Got it now. It looked like a plastic box, I'd have thought a bare or green would have been connected to the switch "frame" at some point.
You need one of these. Red wire (light) goes to one. Black Wire (fan) goes to the other.
It should come with directions.
That'll do 'er. Two switches. I'm guessing the directions won't mention starting the project halfway into the margaritas.
I'm thinking to be perfectly safe, he should turn off the power at the breaker panel and turn off the margaritas until the directions make sense.
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I always leave the breakers on. No sense in being unsure which one is the hot wire.
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I'm sober. But we want a dimmer for the light and a switch for the fan so I need to determine which wires far for the 3 way and the ones for light and fan
And since it's 740 I will wait for the weekend to figure this out and continue on my next pitcher.
And since it's 740 I will wait for the weekend to figure this out and continue on my next pitcher.
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3-way? That changes things. The red and black wires are part of the three way system so that there's always power at one switch or the other one across the room. Now looking at your photo you don't have a wire going to your light. The fan and light are probably wired together up in the fan somewhere. I'm guessing you have to turn the fan light on and off from the pull chain on the fan.
Good news is you can get a remote control to turn the lights on and off. That way you don't have to mess with the house wiring.
https://smile.amazon.com/HiYill-Uni...&sr=8-2&keywords=fan+light+remote+control+kit
This is what I was trying to say earlier but you did much better.
Zed. All those wires in those boxes are switch wires and commons, not fan wires. You have one hot wire going to the fan and it's connected to both the fan and light connections inside the fan. There is nothing you can do to your switches to isolate the fan and light unless you cut sheetrock and pull some more wires.
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Ok thanks
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Electricians don't have to label anything because they don't have to live with the consequences. And they get paid (well, I might add) to figure it all out again in the future, when you want something done.
But really, it's not that difficult once you open up the junction box and the light switch box and see what wires go where.
When you get frustrated, just take a moment to compose yourself by screaming "IT'S JUST SOME F*CKING WIRES, SOME G*DD*MN SWITCHES, AND A M*THERF*CKING CEILING FAN!"
Once you've put it into perspective like that, you can get back to work.
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I'm all for a 3 way but the switch part sounds a little to kinky for me.
You're making it all too complicated. Just solder all the reds together, then do the same with the other matching colors & slap a toggle switch in their somewhere & it'll work like magic.
The red wire is the traveler, it connects each three way, when you turn one on, the other can turn the circuit off and visa versa.
The fan motor black and the light kit blue wires are both joined to the hot lead in the ceiling box,
so no way to power each one independently without adding more wire to each switch box and
adding stacked three way switches in each box (or add double gang box with new 3 way each location).
The fan motor black and the light kit blue wires are both joined to the hot lead in the ceiling box,
so no way to power each one independently without adding more wire to each switch box and
adding stacked three way switches in each box (or add double gang box with new 3 way each location).
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The stacked switch is a three way switch on top and single pole on bottom, but your wiring diagram shows a stacked single pole switch.
He has three way on both locations so he can't control fan and light separately without running new wire to each wall box.
He has three way on both locations so he can't control fan and light separately without running new wire to each wall box.
You need one of these. Red wire (light) goes to one. Black Wire (fan) goes to the other.
It should come with directions.
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Correct. Once I determined what he had going on there I corrected myself with a followup post.
The pic of the switch was just for representational purposes. We've determined that it won't work the way things are currently wired.
His best bet is to install a wireless switch in the fan to control the lights separately.
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Do you have a pic of the other switch box that also controls the fan?
My bet is that there used to be a light there and someone put in a fan, or they tried some funky 3 way arrangement with the light, while keeping the fan on or off using the chain.
My bet is that there used to be a light there and someone put in a fan, or they tried some funky 3 way arrangement with the light, while keeping the fan on or off using the chain.
This is the most common before homes were wired for fans, light controlled from two locations,
ceiling fan added (sometimes w/o fan mount box and redone with fan box to stop wobbling fan).
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Come on just let the smoke out would you its easy to put back! We need some entertainment.
I agree not enough wires pulled to for what you are wanting.
I agree not enough wires pulled to for what you are wanting.
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