Cary man arrested for pulling gun in road rage incident

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The way this this guy spoke and acted in the video makes me think he probably is a graduate of the CHP class. Once that comes out, WRAL is going to spend the next week leading with "see, I told you they were dangerous" stories.

If Mr. Roundtree cannot establish that a reasonable person would have felt an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm, I think he's carried for the last time. If the facts in the story are what comes out in trial, I think I'd have to vote to convict. Of course, it's early and we only know what those gun haters at WRAL have put out.

https://www.wral.com/video-leads-to...o-pulled-gun-in-road-rage-incident-/17954357/

CARY, N.C. — A Cary man has been charged with pointing a gun at another man as a result of an apparent road rage incident.

Ikeem McCullough and his fiancée were driving in two cars on Maynard Road on Friday when he said Adam Rountree began tailgating her and, at one point, ran her off the road.

McCullough said all three cars pulled into a Cary parking lot, where he pulled out his phone to get a picture of Roundtree’s license plate.

As McCullough tried to take the photo, his fiancée took a video of Roundtree holding a gun on McCullough.
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In the video, Roundtree can be heard telling the couple to continue filming him because "you're confronting me. I'm defending myself."

McCullough said he and his fiancée were shocked by what was happening and eventually jumped back into their cars, left the scene and called police. Several people in the shopping center called 911 as well.

After seeing the video, Cary police charged Roundtree, 33, of 112 Aborfield Ct., with misdemeanor assault by pointing a gun.
 
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FYI, I'm not going to name names (except to staff by pm if asked) but that person is a member here.
 
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noway2 said:
FYI, I'm not going to name names (except to staff by pm if asked) but that person is a member here.
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Used to be. No longer as far as I know.
 
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If the video on the report is all the evidence I'm not sure how the Cary PD could definitively know what happened. Maybe they had more video? Hope Mr. Roundtree had just cause for that, but that report is why I don't watch local news either. They suck. I like the whole he used racial epithets thing. They said, he said deal there. But they had to report it with no verification didn't they?
 
Sadly the gun community has it's fair share of quacks. Luckily this incident turned out for the good of the McCulloughs but I think they would have been better served to drove directly to the nearest LE agency and made a report rather than being "smart" and videoing the incident. If things had gone wrong the video could have been of their last day on this earth.
 
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CZfool68 said:
If the video on the report is all the evidence I'm not sure how the Cary PD could definitively know what happened. Maybe they had more video? Hope Mr. Roundtree had just cause for that, but that report is why I don't watch local news either. They suck. I like the whole he used racial epithets thing. They said, he said deal there. But they had to report it with no verification didn't they?
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This reminds me of the advice that if there is ever an incident where you defend yourself, especially if you have or display a weapon, to be the first party to call Dial A Prayer because the initial party to call is given the assumption of being the victim. Even if you are innocent, having an aggressor make a call about you can put you behind the proverbial 8 ball.
 
noway2 said:
FYI, I'm not going to name names (except to staff by pm if asked) but that person is a member here.
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Damn, you wanna hear that a [former] member was the guy to help an officer in a fight on the side of a highway, or stopped a mass shooting, not this nonsense.
 
Jayne said:
So if he "ran her off the road" then how was she still driving? Did she go off the road, everyone stop and wait for her to get back on the road again, then all drive to a parking lot?

sounds legit.
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Yep, that report was for crap. We have no clue what happened. The young lady and her boyfriend may have been the instigators for all we know. And if they both confronted him he may have felt threatened. Who knows?
 
CZfool68 said:
Yep, that report was for crap. We have no clue what happened. The young lady and her boyfriend may have been the instigators for all we know. And if they both confronted him he may have felt threatened. Who knows?
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Yep. Even if he wrongly followed her into the parking lot and confronted her, I expect the appearance of the second vehicle and another driver spooked him and it went from road rage, to pointing a gun at somebody.
 
CZfool68 said:
Yep, that report was for crap. We have no clue what happened. The young lady and her boyfriend may have been the instigators for all we know. And if they both confronted him he may have felt threatened. Who knows?
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New breaking footage of the incident:

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fieldgrade said:
Yep. Even if he wrongly followed her into the parking lot and confronted her, I expect the appearance of the second vehicle and another driver spooked him and it went from road rage, to pointing a gun at somebody.
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Yeah I could see how your spidey senses might get escalated if you are in a traffic incident and then the boyfriend appears out of nowhere right behind you. It could feel like a set up. I might not draw with some distance, but I could see being ready.
 
Jayne said:
So if he "ran her off the road" then how was she still driving? Did she go off the road, everyone stop and wait for her to get back on the road again, then all drive to a parking lot?

sounds legit.
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I was ran off the road, but maintained about 60mph or more, until all four of my tires were back on the pavement and missing the Jones Creek guardrail, eventually getting back behind the guy who pushed me in that direction.

It can happen like that, or with less intensity and still be called "ran off the road."
 
More info posted just now: https://www.wral.com/video-leads-to...o-pulled-gun-in-road-rage-incident-/17954357/

"I got behind him to try to get his plate and then he got out of the car and pointed a gun at me," the caller said. "I'm standing right here in the parking lot, looking him straight in the eyes, but he swears I'm threatening him."

In another call, Rountree claims it was McCullough and his fiance, who tried to run him off the road before they pulled into the parking lot.

"They tried to run me off the road. I pulled into a public area, they pulled in behind me to block me. If he takes another step towards me, he threatened me with an AK-47, I will shoot him," Rountree tells the dispatcher.

Rountree, who says he has a concealed carry permit, tells the dispatcher that he pulled out his weapon after McCoullough and his wife "threatened me with an assault rifle" twice. However, Rountree also tells the dispatcher that he cannot see if McCollough is armed because his hands are in his pockets.

"He's still standing there on his phone, claiming I'm the one attacking him and he had the right to point a gun at me. I didn't even get out of my car until I saw him with a [expletive] gun," McCullough tells a dispatcher
 
I don’t believe either one of them ... this is “he said ... they said”. The video is just a part of the whole incident. Paul Harvey’s “the rest of the story” comes to mind. We can speculate on what the couple did and what was said but I can pretty much say Roundtree let his temper get him into a situation rather than thinking about how to put distance between himself and the problem. As to guilt or innocence not enough details for me to say anything more than Roundtree shoulda kept his vehicle moving ... and never exited it especially when it’s two vehicles on one.
 
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...be the first party to call Dial A Prayer because the initial party to call is given the assumption of being the victim.
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No first hand knowledge, but my guess is that most dispatch transmissions go something like, "Complaint says ______ ______ ______, suspect is described as X, Y and Z."
 
I didn't even get out of my car until I saw him with a [expletive] gun," McCullough tells a dispatcher

I wouldn't get out of my car if I saw a person with a gun!! Maybe that's just me, though.....
 
IF someone pulled a freaking AK-47 on me, there sure as hell would be no question of what happened as someone laid dead on the pavement with the gun beside them.(maybe me) IF anyone tried to grab said gun they would be the next person on the ground. Maybe I'm wrong but if I'm not going to shoot I'm not going to pull my gun.
 
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Remember that 20 ft rule. That's pretty far and if voices were raised, threats were made, fists were raised, someone lunged at him, who knows...

We don't. No point in speculating who did what to whom where and in what order. Either there will be witnesses and/or video, or there won't and it will be his word against theirs. We have a court system for this. The most telling development will be whether the DA chooses to prosecute.
 
So the boyfriend pulls an AK, and he pulls a pistol out - was an AK found in car or anything?

What was member's name on here?
 
Be intresting to know who followed who into the parking lot as I would think that could be a escalation point unless that was both their destinations but highly unlikely.
 
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