CFF June 18 Rimfire Benchrest Challenge

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This is a variation of a target I came up with for a stage in my last 22 Challenge match.

Post a standard playing card up, with the back side showing, at 50 yards.

Shoot it as many times as you like. Each hit counts 1 point, BUT any shot that breaks the edge or is touching another shot does not count. Eventually, additional shots will lose you points by taking out previous points. A 20 shot single ragged hole group right in the middle of the card scores a zero.

Have fun!

Just for the sake of making sure there is not another 22 ammo shortage, no more than 54 tries (one deck of cards) before you post your best. [emoji1] Seriously, let’s limit to 5 tries and post your best.
 
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Ok. I went to buy some playing cards. My question is what is standard size? They had three different sizes. Are the Bicycle playing cards considered standard size?
 
Ok. I went to buy some playing cards. My question is what is standard size? They had three different sizes. Are the Bicycle playing cards considered standard size?

Probably. They certainly make a LOT of standard sized cards. I have only ever had one size of cards except travel sets that are tiny.

So I just went to amazon to look for cards. The Bicycle decks come in Standard and Wide (also called Poker). The standard decks say Standard on the box in big letters.
 
Sort of a poor man’s know your limits target :)
Funny story, a friend of mine long time ago went thru BLET down there in Florida and was a very accomplished pistol shooter. When it came time for scoring, he had to shoot 50 rounds at a man size target at 25 yards and the 10 ring was about a foot wide center mass.He turned in a target that had a hole punched out of the center and he was told that he failed the test. When he asked why, they told him that they couldn't see 50 bullet holes to get a score. They allowed him to retake the test and he told me that it was actually harder to shoot 50 holes in that 12 inch ring then it was to get one hole. I don't remember what his new score was, but he did pass the test. Either way, this new contest sounds like fun. Just wish I had a gun that could do it well, I don't think my M&P 15-22 is up to the task..
 
Was able to shoot this one today. Will need to read the rules again and score it later.

But I'll say it makes a huge difference as to what the card looks like (pattern). I shot the back of the card, as I thought that was in the instructions, and I had a heckuva time seeing the holes. And that's from somebody with 20/15 vision in each eye and an 18X scope.

I still need somebody else to shoot this CZ and see if it's me, or the gun, or the scope, or the ammo...or some combination. I think I should have better results than I'm getting.
 
Was able to shoot this one today. Will need to read the rules again and score it later.

But I'll say it makes a huge difference as to what the card looks like (pattern). I shot the back of the card, as I thought that was in the instructions, and I had a heckuva time seeing the holes. And that's from somebody with 20/15 vision in each eye and an 18X scope.

I still need somebody else to shoot this CZ and see if it's me, or the gun, or the scope, or the ammo...or some combination. I think I should have better results than I'm getting.

@BigWaylon Yea blame the gun! ;) My excuse is wind. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet. Did find a deck of cards here in the house though. Hopefully next week. Done with all the medical stuff for this month, so time to go shoot.
 
I was looking for some cards to try this myself this weekend. I found about 10 decks of playing cards in the house, and they are all poker sized (slightly wider than regular). The only standard sized cards I have are Uno and Sorry! cards. Can't use those though - have to have an annoying busy pattern on the back :) So I think was wrong about about "standard" - poker size seems to be much more common. I suspect that most will shoot poker size not realizing the difference. Any objections to poker size?

Red backs are probably slightly easier than blue to discern your hits - try both.

At the match where I tried this target (and it was poker sized - I have the rest of that deck), there was a limit of 10 shots, and one person out of about 20 managed to score a 10, if that helps for context. I am sort of expecting a low-mid teens score here, but I really have no idea what will happen. It is not an easy target.

For tie breaking, should that occur, let's say the cleanest target wins. In other words, 10 points for 10 distinct shots beats 10 points for 11 shots (one on the edge) or 10 points for 12 shots (10 good and 2 touching). The fewest hits on the card breaks ties on the score in other words.
 
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Do you have the measurements of the card? I'll measure and score mine here in a little bit. I have no idea what size they're considered.
 
Mine was 3-1/2 x 2-1/2.

I have a lot of hits around the edge because I didn't remember the rule about no points for breaking the edge. The white border is what I could spot the easiest.

I think I count 12

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Looks like 12 to me too.

We'll stick with poker sized cards then.

Thanks
 
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Finally made it out. Not sure how to score, so someone else can tell me score
Card size: 2.5x3.5


First card 25 rounds: Anschutz 64sbr Eley Target
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Second card shot with a Stevens model 416. Put in a new sight insight and wanted to try it out. Only took 5 shots with Federal Gold Match

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Finally made it out. Not sure how to score, so someone else can tell me score
Card size: 2.5x3.5

First card 25 rounds: Anschutz 64sbr Eley Target

Second card shot with a Stevens model 416. Put in a new sight insight and wanted to try it out. Only took 5 shots with Federal Gold Match
I'd score the first one 20 and the second one 4.

You'd lose the 5 shots in green. Two "pair" that are touching, and one breaking the edge.

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I'd score the first one 20 and the second one 4.

You'd lose the 5 shots in green. Two "pair" that are touching, and one breaking the edge.

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I was scoring it correctly then. Thank You I knew the ones touching you did not count but was not sure about anything else. Thanks again.

The second one I just wanted to see if I could even hit the card using the new sight insert. Could not see POI of each shot, but I do like the new sight inserts
 
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Tried it again. I scored at least a 19. Maybe a 20. And maybe a 22. Need another set of eyes.

First of all, I didn't buy new cards, so I tried shooting the front side of this one to see if I could see better. If that disqualifies me, I won't ask for a refund. :D

The greens are good, the reds are not...and the yellows are my question.

1. The one at the top. I'm not 100% sure if it's one hole, or two REALLY close shots?
2. The other two in question...the circles don't touch, but the card is torn between them. How is that scored?
3. And I guess after looking at it from the other side, the two right next to those are in the same situation. They're farther apart than the two yellows, so the bullet circle doesn't overlap, but I can see a little daylight in a tear. Those good? Or I need to deduct 2 points?

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Here's the pair I mentioned in point 3, in case there was confusion in my description. There's clearly no overlap, but I can see a tear running from one to the other.

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Tried it again. I scored at least a 19. Maybe a 20. And maybe a 22. Need another set of eyes.

First of all, I didn't buy new cards, so I tried shooting the front side of this one to see if I could see better. If that disqualifies me, I won't ask for a refund. :D

The greens are good, the reds are not...and the yellows are my question.

1. The one at the top. I'm not 100% sure if it's one hole, or two REALLY close shots?
2. The other two in question...the circles don't touch, but the card is torn between them. How is that scored?
3. And I guess after looking at it from the other side, the two right next to those are in the same situation. They're farther apart than the two yellows, so the bullet circle doesn't overlap, but I can see a little daylight in a tear. Those good? Or I need to deduct 2 points?

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Here's the pair I mentioned in point 3, in case there was confusion in my description. There's clearly no overlap, but I can see a tear running from one to the other.

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Looks like just a tear to me. Also reminded me. I have to go out to the van and get my card I shot yesterday.

Did you try out your new shooting bench?
 
Did you try out your new shooting bench?
Nope. It's literally a case of a square peg in a round hole.

All the "pegs" in the design are squared off. All the "holes" that are in the design we're routered (I'm assuming) and are thus rounded in the corners. So, I need to pick up a file or something else and do a little work before it'll go together. The base and two supports slide together with slots, which work. But the seat and tabletop fit down onto the pegs, so that's not working for now.

And then as an aside, it was my first trip to PHA after joining two weeks ago. I'm there by ~7:40a to get set up so I can start shooting at the 8am start time. Not another soul on the range. I did see a couple other vehicles as I drove by. A guy pulls up about 7:55a to the bay in end and asks if he can join me...never mind the two bays beside me are empty. I said sure, even though I REALLY didn't want him to for a couple of reasons. So he sets up a target and then proceeds to shoot black powder for the next 15min while I'm shooting suppressed 22. Uggh.
 
Nope. It's literally a case of a square peg in a round hole.



And then as an aside, it was my first trip to PHA after joining two weeks ago. I'm there by ~7:40a to get set up so I can start shooting at the 8am start time. Not another soul on the range. I did see a couple other vehicles as I drove by. A guy pulls up about 7:55a to the bay in end and asks if he can join me...never mind the two bays beside me are empty. I said sure, even though I REALLY didn't want him to for a couple of reasons. So he sets up a target and then proceeds to shoot black powder for the next 15min while I'm shooting suppressed 22. Uggh.

That type of stuff always happens to me. Rifle range is out to 100 yards. 1-5 lanes 50 yards 6-9 25 yards 10-14 100 yards. I always shoot lane two (put my stuff on bench lane one nobody ever uses it not lined up correctly). Someone will always come to lane three with some type of high power and loud. Just do not get it.

Will be posting my card in a minute.
 
Shot the card again yesterday. Score was a 22 as far as I can tell. Windy as normal. Only shot the one card. Was practicing for a rimfire match next Monday. So that took priority.

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This is an awesome thread. Been lurking for a couple weeks, and have really enjoyed this thread and a couple of the conversations that I’ve had with guys on here.

I shot my new rifle Saturday and did this challenge Sunday and tried out the May challenge once because it looked pretty fun too. It was the most fun I’ve ever had shooting. My uncle was giving me a hard time about the target being so large, but I told him, this isn’t as simple as he thinks, especially when you start getting aggressive trying to fit in more points.

I thought I saw rules somewhere by couldn’t find them when looking again Sunday. I used a standard bipod and rear bag at 50yds. Are there any other limitations on scopes or ammo or types of rests?

I wanted to double check before posting my pic.
 
This is an awesome thread. Been lurking for a couple weeks, and have really enjoyed this thread and a couple of the conversations that I’ve had with guys on here.

I shot my new rifle Saturday and did this challenge Sunday and tried out the May challenge once because it looked pretty fun too. It was the most fun I’ve ever had shooting. My uncle was giving me a hard time about the target being so large, but I told him, this isn’t as simple as he thinks, especially when you start getting aggressive trying to fit in more points.

I thought I saw rules somewhere by couldn’t find them when looking again Sunday. I used a standard bipod and rear bag at 50yds. Are there any other limitations on scopes or ammo or types of rests?

I wanted to double check before posting my pic.

You are good to go. No sleds allowed front rest and a rear bag are fine. Use what ever scope or lack of scope and ammo you want.

Here is a list of the rules we normally use:

Target distance: 50 yards
- Any shooting position you'd like
- Front rests, bipods, front/rear shooting bags, bunny ears, ... etc. are all ok.
- No full length rifle mechanical rail/sled type rests allowed
- Iron sights or optics of your choice are all allowed
- All done on the honor system. Shoot it, score it, post it.
-Tie break will be ???????
- Winner chooses the target and challenge for the next month.
-Post copy of your target and your setup
- Where you shoot at
 
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Perfect. That is what I thought. I’ve never participated in the forum games on various sites, but liked the idea of participating here since it is local and I might have he opportunity to meet guys in person at some point.
 
Perfect. That is what I thought. I’ve never participated in the forum games on various sites, but liked the idea of participating here since it is local and I might have he opportunity to meet guys in person at some point.
Heck, at this point only two of us have entered with three days to go.

You might medal just for participating!! :D
 
Heck, at this point only two of us have entered with three days to go.

You might medal just for participating!! :D

I am going to try this if I can get out Friday. I'll embarrass myself, but you have to start somewhere right? I also think I have some huge cards somewhere as a fall back option. :p
 
I started wondering how many people actually participate. I thought I remember seeing more in the old threads, but then I assumed people were waiting to see what is posted.

I tried 4 cards Sunday with 4 different ammos (as I was trying out ammo in the new rifle) and I think the high was 27. I was being super aggressive. I had to check the rules to make sure there weren’t negative points (besides just the obvious cancelled points and edge non points).
 
I am going to try this if I can get out Friday. I'll embarrass myself, but you have to start somewhere right? I also think I have some huge cards somewhere as a fall back option. :p
I need to find some like those giant greeting cards!!
 
I am going to try this if I can get out Friday. I'll embarrass myself, but you have to start somewhere right? I also think I have some huge cards somewhere as a fall back option. :p
I had to go find a tape measure at the store so I could measure the cards to make sure they were the right size. Never knew there were so many size options.
 
A guy pulls up about 7:55a to the bay in end and asks if he can join me...never mind the two bays beside me are empty. I said sure, even though I REALLY didn't want him to for a couple of reasons. So he sets up a target and then proceeds to shoot black powder for the next 15min while I'm shooting suppressed 22. Uggh.

Uh.. why not use the 22 range there?? it is supposed to be 22RF only.. no magnums.. no centerfire of any kind... and i am certain BP is excluded at the 22 range
 
Uh.. why not use the 22 range there?? it is supposed to be 22RF only.. no magnums.. no centerfire of any kind... and i am certain BP is excluded at the 22 range
I had a 9mm to test out today. I like the first open/tactical pit at the top (whatever it's called). At the rimfire range there are often others to worry about, calling cold range, etc. I've never had anybody just walk up and ask to join me before. I've shot with others on previous trips, but it's always been people we invited ahead of time.

When I left, there were 3 guys down at the rimfire range. I may try it sometime (for the monthly challenge) if I can get there and setup before 8am, like I did today.
 
Tried it again. I scored at least a 19. Maybe a 20. And maybe a 22. Need another set of eyes.

First of all, I didn't buy new cards, so I tried shooting the front side of this one to see if I could see better. If that disqualifies me, I won't ask for a refund. :D

The greens are good, the reds are not...and the yellows are my question.

1. The one at the top. I'm not 100% sure if it's one hole, or two REALLY close shots?
2. The other two in question...the circles don't touch, but the card is torn between them. How is that scored?
3. And I guess after looking at it from the other side, the two right next to those are in the same situation. They're farther apart than the two yellows, so the bullet circle doesn't overlap, but I can see a little daylight in a tear. Those good? Or I need to deduct 2 points?

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Here's the pair I mentioned in point 3, in case there was confusion in my description. There's clearly no overlap, but I can see a tear running from one to the other.

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The hits in yellow aren't overlapping. They count. The yellow dot at the top does look like 2 hits from the back. Hard to tell for sure. I can't blow up the front side to see the grease ring(s).
 
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The hits in yellow aren't overlapping. They count. The yellow dot at the top does look like 2 hits from the back. Hard to tell for sure. I can't blow up the front side to see the grease ring(s).
Ok. Wasn't exactly sure on the overlapping vs one ragged hole, etc. Score is 21.

Here's another look at the top one:

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I can't see two rings. But with it slightly oblong and bigger than the others, I guess it has to be a double...or it just tore into the yellow ink area for some reason.
 
Heck, at this point only two of us have entered with three days to go.

You might medal just for participating!! :D

Bummed that I’ve been so distracted this month and not got an entry in. Moved which was huge time suck, a family member did some hospital time, and work all made for the perfect storm. Doubt I’ll make it by end of month but never say never! I will say that you guys are rockin’ it though!
 
I was wrong. I shot 5 cards Sunday, so I hit my limit. I think the second card is the better sample.

The first one of these I think is a 29, but questionable. The top one is in the staple, and I believe is only one, but looks like possibly 2 in the picture. This card is hard to count because of the way the bullets tore through the card.

The second card I think is an easy 27, maybe 29. I included it in case I’m wrong on the first and need a more solid 27, possibly 29 if the tear between a couple counts officially as separate hits.

The weird part is how the back of the cards look where the bullets went through. There are lots of tears coming out from the holes. Card 1 was probably the worst of all five cards. Four of the five cards tore badly. Card 2 is the only one that had clean holes. I lost track after pulling them down on which ammo was used, so I can’t pinpoint if it is a bullet shape thing. I did shoot one set of SK flat nose, and it did well, so card 2 may have been that one.

Shot with my new Vudoo. I'll take a pic later in the week outside on my table in the back yard where I shoot.
 

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Nice shooting, and very nice rifle! That explains selling the 455 :)
 
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