Cody Wilson (3D printed gun guy), gun entrepreneur accused of sex with minor

The government doesn't need access to your computer to build an electronic trail connecting you to any crime they want. Snowden's releases show that program exists, as does a system for hiding it from the courts by way of a fabricated "parallel construction" system that basically lies about where the evidence was obtained or how it was collected.

They use the same process as cover for illegally obtained evidence from extra-constitutional and illegal domestic spying programs.

And the Local Heroes (TM) are all too eager to play with Homeland Fusion centers.
 
Wait, the Austin police commander is Officer Officer? WTF, seriously? I didn't think this could get any stranger and they hand us that gem.
 
For those crying conspiracy:
There's a clear chain of evidence, and this guy just "happens" to have left for a non-extradition country. Take that how you will, but I find the country he's in mighty suspicious.
 
For those crying conspiracy:
There's a clear chain of evidence, and this guy just "happens" to have left for a non-extradition country. Take that how you will, but I find the country he's in mighty suspicious.
82 countries (42%) have no extradition treaty with the United States.
 
it's true. I have had sex with a minor. Then I married her. After all, I was within the 3 year 'romeo and juliet' arbitrary introductory supervisory carnality knowledgity period as mandated by our overlords.
 
Yeah, a lot of terrible s$##holes and one good firstworld country that is caught in diplomatic issues with the US and China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States

He hasn't returned, there's plenty of evidence, and a clear trail. A conspiracy is unlikely.

“Unlikely” means you are agreeing that he cannot be convicted since the standard is “beyond a reasonable doubt”. Anyone who doesn’t doubt our gov when they prosecute someone on charges like this when they’ve been trying to shut him down already is willfully ignoring reality.
 
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“Unlikely” means you are agreeing that he cannot be convicted since the standard is “beyond a reasonable doubt”. Anyone who doesn’t doubt our gov when they prosecute someone on charges like this when they’ve been trying to shut him down already is willfully ignoring reality.
So, let me see here, the government:
1.) Found a 16 year old girl that would make a claim of having sex with him. One that can keep a story straight against trained investigators.
2.) created an account for her, and for him, as well, as correspondence with them
3.) registered him in a hotel room
4.) faked multiple video's of him and the girl together
5.) found a psychiatrist to falsify records of working with the girl long term
6.) had this psychiatrist file a report with the police
7.) Tricked the guy into fleeing to the only first world country with a non-extradition treaty
8.) Didn't have any leaks, were completely airtight in their conspiracy.

Yeah, that's plausible.

I don't think the guy could have signed up for a hookup site, and been fraudulently lied to about the age of a girl he had sex with, a la Rob Lowe(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Lowe#Sex_tape). That's not likely at all.
 
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So, let me see here, the government:
1.) Found a 16 year old girl that would make a claim of having sex with him. One that can keep a story straight against trained investigators.
2.) created an account for her, and for him, as well, as corresspondence with them
3.) registered him in a hotel room
4.) faked multiple video's of him and the girl together
5.) found a psychiatrist to falsify records of working with the girl long term
6.) had this psychiatrist file a report with the police
7.) Tricked the guy into fleeing to the only first world country with a non-extradition treaty
8.) Didn't have any leaks, were completely airtight in their conspiracy.

Yeah, that's plausible.

I don't the guy could have signed up for a hookup site, and been fraudulently lied to about the age of a girl he had sex with, a la Rob Lowe. That's not likely at all.
Yes it is very plausible, or similar details. What do you think the FBI counterintelligence people do for a living?

The point is not whether it is more or less likely than the second option you present. The point is that neither of us can trust the evidence “beyond a reasonable doubt”. At least I can’t.
 
Yes it is very plausible, or similar details. What do you think the FBI counterintelligence people do for a living?

The point is not whether it is more or less likely than the second option you present. The point is that neither of us can trust the evidence “beyond a reasonable doubt”. At least I can’t.

Your definition of reasonable is wildly unreasonable but you’ll never see it that way so no point in continuing this.

I’m also not sure that you understand what the FBI does, but again, it doesn’t really matter.

No minds were changed in the making of this discussion.
 
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Yes it is very plausible, or similar details. What do you think the FBI counterintelligence people do for a living?

The point is not whether it is more or less likely than the second option you present. The point is that neither of us can trust the evidence “beyond a reasonable doubt”. At least I can’t.
On the contrary, it is much, much, much, much less plausible. But I can see you want to believe this, not worth it to me. Shine on, you crazy diamond.
 
I believe:

  • Taxation is theft
  • The NSA is monitoring my emails
  • There is a deep state unelected cabal trying to undo the election of 2016.
  • We don't know everything about 9/11
  • The War on Terrorism has created more terrorists
  • The War on Drugs has produced more drugs (and should have never been fought.)
  • Ron Paul is a hero
  • Rand Paul is a mere shadow of his father
  • The 2nd Amendment is the only gun law we should have
I also can simultaneously believe:

  • That Cody Wilson more than likely did exactly what he is being accused of ...
 
I believe:

  • Taxation is theft
  • The NSA is monitoring my emails
  • There is a deep state unelected cabal trying to undo the election of 2016.
  • We don't know everything about 9/11
  • The War on Terrorism has created more terrorists
  • The War on Drugs has produced more drugs (and should have never been fought.)
  • Ron Paul is a hero
  • Rand Paul is a mere shadow of his father
  • The 2nd Amendment is the only gun law we should have
I also can simultaneously believe:

  • That Cody Wilson more than likely did exactly what he is being accused of ...

Absolutely. But “beyond a reasonable doubt”? And how is it that these sex charges happen to people the feds want so often? Is that just a coincidence?
 
Beyond a reasonable doubt is for the jury to decide. The evidence so far made public was more than enough for a warrant. Which he has now fled.....
 
Your definition of reasonable is wildly unreasonable but you’ll never see it that way so no point in continuing this.

I’m also not sure that you understand what the FBI does, but again, it doesn’t really matter.

No minds were changed in the making of this discussion.

Some people on here evidently agree that my position is reasonable, that a setup of some kind here is plausible, and that “beyond a reasonable doubt” is an uphill battle if you can reasonably doubt the evidence presented.

I do understand what the FBI does to at least the extent that the public outside law enforcement is aware of it. And notice I said counterintelligence, not the FBI in general. If you think that we don’t set up/entrap/frame/otherwise compromise people in order to use them as intelligence assets or kill their usefulness as foreign agents, maybe you don’t understand what they do. Of course they do a lot more than that too.

Our minds weren’t changed, but everyone else reading this is my primary audience :)
 
Some people on here evidently agree that my position is reasonable, that a setup of some kind here is plausible, and that “beyond a reasonable doubt” is an uphill battle if you can reasonably doubt the evidence presented.

I do understand what the FBI does to at least the extent that the public outside law enforcement is aware of it. And notice I said counterintelligence, not the FBI in general. If you think that we don’t set up/entrap/frame/otherwise compromise people in order to use them as intelligence assets or kill their usefulness as foreign agents, maybe you don’t understand what they do. Of course they do a lot more than that too.

Our minds weren’t changed, but everyone else reading this is my primary audience :)

This, the government knows just about all of your faults and vises, they have been tracking your computer searches, usage, were and how you spend your money (unless your 100% cash). It wouldn't take the government long to set any of us up, using our own vises against us.
 
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