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Or intentional immersion hypothermia for fun!

Picked up a watering trough, pool thermometer, and some tablets to clean it occasionally from Rural King today. Came home, filled it up, and jumped in. 10 minutes at about 50 degrees. Not as cold so you stay in longer. Might do some ice as the outside temp warms up. But this will do for now. Been doing cold showers for a while. But this is no comparison. Uncontrollable shaking set in between 2-3 minutes. Then it was focus and breath to make it to 10. Gonna do shorter ones a few times a week before my workouts and runs.

Actually talked my wife into going in. Well, most of the way in. She got about belly deep at the end and stayed in about 6 minutes getting there. Good start though.





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chiefjason said:
This^



Went here in my head. I've been called worse. lol
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Iā€™ve always told my wife about this really smart guy in Hickory who has made holsters for every handgun Iā€™ve owned in the past decade.

But I require scientific evidence for the advantages of deliberately freezing your ass right off.
 
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I see you trying to warm it up with those little fart bubbles lol.

Tougher than me either way.
 
ronn47 said:
@chiefjason
Other than making your nipples hard, what is the rational behind this?
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Some famous person claims freezing water helps you so everyone takes freezing showers and baths. Then they tell everyone else it helps them so they wonā€™t be alone shivering. Then those people tell people.. next thing you know ā€œThe Cult of the Glass Cutting Nipplesā€ is formed.

Meanwhile us neanderthals sit here and watch in amusement.
 
hp468 said:
Some famous person claims freezing water helps you so everyone takes freezing showers and baths. Then they tell everyone else it helps them so they wonā€™t be alone shivering. Then those people tell people.. next thing you know ā€œThe Cult of the Glass Cutting Nipplesā€ is formed.

Meanwhile us neanderthals sit here and watch in amusement.
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Well hello, I'm the guy in the chair beside of you.
 
Could improve your shooting skills, I recall one of the shooting shows where they put a seal team member in a chill tank. He had to take out multiple threats when he was removed from the tank. He eliminated all the threats.
 
chiefjason said:
42 degrees water temp. Did 2 minutes before my workout.
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I'm not a stranger to cold therapy but have always used it for rehab. Curious why you do it pre workout?
 
LizardKing said:
I'm not a stranger to cold therapy but have always used it for rehab. Curious why you do it pre workout?
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I'm doing it before any weight lifting. Not that I'm going to be getting swole in any real sense but the cold stops some of the muscle growth after working out. And some data suggests doing it before lifting can increase testosterone production. I did it after my run today.

The easy protocol is before hypertrophy training and after skill or cardio training.
 
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chiefjason said:
I'm doing it before any weight lifting. Not that I'm going to be getting swole in any real sense but the cold stops some of the muscle growth after working out. And some data suggests doing it before lifting can increase testosterone production. I did it after my run today.

The easy protocol is before hypertrophy training and after skill or cardio training.
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Well, cold water makes everything shrink, so....
 
Button Pusher said:
Could improve your shooting skills, I recall one of the shooting shows where they put a seal team member in a chill tank. He had to take out multiple threats when he was removed from the tank. He eliminated all the threats.
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Indirectly, maybe. It acclimates you to adrenaline dumps in your body and you learn to control it through breathing and mental focus. It acclimates you to stress as well. For competition, there might be some cross over. Or performance anxieties. Maybe. But let's be honest, a guy that has to work in cold water and shoots a lot probably has it covered already.

Chuckman said:
Cold water is not my bag. Hate it. But if you like it and it does what you need, go for it.
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You'll get a kick out of this. You have a longer and more in depth background in medicine but I've had some experience with outdoor first aid and such. So we know that you don't want to warm a hypothermic person up unless you can ensure they will stay warm. And a critical hypothermic person should normally be warmed under medical care. I've always heard that a person can crash while re warming from blood that was restricted in the limbs being allowed back into the core as the body warms and can lower the core temp enough to crash a patient. So the first time in I'm hyper aware of what's going on. Shivering, how my core and limbs feel, etc.

When I got out I felt great. No big deal. About 10 minutes after I started shaking again, out of nowhere. From fine to really cold. Then I started feeling it. I could feel the cold blood creeping into my core and felt my chest getting cold. That was a wild feeling. Once that got stabile I started warming up for real.
 
chiefjason said:
You'll get a kick out of this. You have a longer and more in depth background in medicine but I've had some experience with outdoor first aid and such. So we know that you don't want to warm a hypothermic person up unless you can ensure they will stay warm. And a critical hypothermic person should normally be warmed under medical care. I've always heard that a person can crash while re warming from blood that was restricted in the limbs being allowed back into the core as the body warms and can lower the core temp enough to crash a patient. So the first time in I'm hyper aware of what's going on. Shivering, how my core and limbs feel, etc.

When I got out I felt great. No big deal. About 10 minutes after I started shaking again, out of nowhere. From fine to really cold. Then I started feeling it. I could feel the cold blood creeping into my core and felt my chest getting cold. That was a wild feeling. Once that got stabile I started warming up for real.
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Before the Navy the only diving I did was when I wanted to do it. In the Navy, I did it on their terms, and it often sucked. Cold and nasty. Really upped my aversion. We did cold weather training in three places; Bridgeport, Ca., Norway, and Kodiak, Alaska. The instructors in Kodiak were SEALs, and they had us go into the water, about 10 feet deep or so, tread water, take off all of our clothes minus the tri-shorts, throw them on shore (about 20 feet away), and basically just tread until we started feeling hypothermic. Then as people did, we would buddy hug and tread together. Then people started gorking out, and we were all yanked from the water. Temps ranged from 35 (95) down to 33 or so (91 and change). It was an exercise in what wet hypothermia feels like, recognizing signs and symptoms, etc. Then, still wet, we had to get dressed. None of us could tie boots or button clothes. I never shivered so much. We were all ashy white, blue faces. Once dressed we did jumping jacks by a fire, buddy hugged, drank hot chicken broth, and dried out. How none of died is a testament to the instructors.

Now the only water I will go into has to feel like a nice, hot bath. I loathe cold water.

I will say that as a clinician, the most complicated and long resuscitations I have done have been on profoundly hypothermic patients.
 
Chuckman said:
Before the Navy the only diving I did was when I wanted to do it. In the Navy, I did it on their terms, and it often sucked. Cold and nasty. Really upped my aversion. We did cold weather training in three places; Bridgeport, Ca., Norway, and Kodiak, Alaska. The instructors in Kodiak were SEALs, and they had us go into the water, about 10 feet deep or so, tread water, take off all of our clothes minus the tri-shorts, throw them on shore (about 20 feet away), and basically just tread until we started feeling hypothermic. Then as people did, we would buddy hug and tread together. Then people started gorking out, and we were all yanked from the water. Temps ranged from 35 (95) down to 33 or so (91 and change). It was an exercise in what wet hypothermia feels like, recognizing signs and symptoms, etc. Then, still wet, we had to get dressed. None of us could tie boots or button clothes. I never shivered so much. We were all ashy white, blue faces. Once dressed we did jumping jacks by a fire, buddy hugged, drank hot chicken broth, and dried out. How none of died is a testament to the instructors.

Now the only water I will go into has to feel like a nice, hot bath. I loathe cold water.

I will say that as a clinician, the most complicated and long resuscitations I have done have been on profoundly hypothermic patients.
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that is absolutely all i needed to know:
"...the most complicated and long resuscitations I have done have been on profoundly hypothermic patients."

thanks, Chuckman.
 
More upgrades. Still at it! Was pretty awesome in the winter when it got in the mid 20ā€™s. That will get your attention.

But heading into the summer we decided to get serious. Submersible pump, good water chiller, and built a cover that I could insulate. I have 3/8ā€ closed cell foam on the bottom of the cover. Hopefully no more frozen water bottles, just cold water!



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65 degrees air temp. 48 degrees in the tub. And a completely different feel to the cold with the chiller.
 
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