Coming food crisis...

Millie said:
My neighbors are my kin....is that okay? Or will I burn in hell?:rolleyes:

I guess I just could go a bit down the road, though, and find some non-related food?
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As long as you do it before they do you....[emoji1787]

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Car0linab0y said:
Bwa ha ha... love how this took a dark(er?) turn in the humor....

No use in being serious all the time
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I think you did a good thing to remind everyone that five+ months into the current hoo-ha it may be good to check their stocks and their plans. The humor is good too.

Thanks for that.
 
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Timfoilhat said:
I'm good on bean and rice. Might be a long winter eating beans and rice, but eating I will be.
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And the great thing about beans / rice...

- Store for a good while
- Prep requires only water and a heat source
 
premise said:
Y'all savages out here eating rice without butter?
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Not now...that’d be like eating pintos without any hunks of fatback in it for seasoning.


But if things get bad, might have to have the rice w/o butter or beans w/o fatback.
 
Beans, rice, canned goods, water, charcoal, are all things that we always have on hand. Now, we just have more than normal on hand. If things go sideways, we can survive for a while.
 
Grits said:
You see how long it the wild turkey population to rebound for being decimated during the Great Depression.
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oh sheesh, now we're going to have a shortage of Wild Turkey too?
is Maker's Mark going to be safe?? I'll go as low as Jack Daniels, but that's it.
 
If you get on a steady diet of MRE's get some stool softener and some stool stopper. Never know how they will hit you.:rolleyes:
 
premise said:
I thought that was why the included coffee and cheese sauces, respectively, were included.
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That cheese spread stop you up worse than pain medicine.


But I love it
 
On a more serious note, anyone notice the dramatic increase in most food prices? Especially things that have been running short?
 
Millie said:
My neighbors are my kin....is that okay? Or will I burn in hell?:rolleyes:

I guess I just could go a bit down the road, though, and find some non-related food?
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you southerners. it's like "sin with kin" is your motto or something.
 
The processing and transportation of food seems to be the weakest link.

One problem we experienced when the sweet & sour sniffles hit, was the processing facilities slowing down or stopping. Plenty of live animals ready to be harvested, but there was a disruption in the pipe line. That problem is exacerbated by the relatively small number of processing plants located far away from where many of these animals are grown. Top that off with these plants being owned by a handful of companies (several foreign ones, at that.)

One plant may do 30,000 animals a day, but when it goes offline, that adds up quickly. That model may be more efficient from a cost standpoint, but I submit that it is the most vulnerable to disruptions. Plus, that model depends on animals being trucked many miles to the plant, only to be trucked many miles back out to the grocery stores.

I raise my own pork and beef and the local processor I use quickly became booked up through 2020. Luckily I had planned to take some steers in March, right as business boomed for them. They had to reduce availability of more time consuming products like bone broth, tallow, and some smoked products. Places like that aren't exactly on every corner either.

Of course things can and will happen on the production side. That has always been the case. Fire, drought, storms, disease and so on. I think China has had a rough time recently with African swine fever. Some of that stuff just can't simply be predicted with any particular accuracy.
 
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IF the power was to go Off for 30 days....we would look like a 3rd world nation. I only know 1 person in my life's aquaintancises that could go on for 30 days without public supplied power. 30 days would eat up all propane and gas powered generators..then the rot would begin. Pray the power doesn't go off...Pray.
Now....let's hear all the ways None of this could possibly affect you!
 
30 days without power would be rough! I like to think I am a survivor but when you actually start to think about it and all the implications that it would bring it gets pretty formidable. It would not be a hole up and wait 30 days situation because you would not know when it would come back on. No more fuel than you have on hand, water and effluent pump stations stop working in municipalities, freezers thaw, convience stores close...just damn.
 
Scott88 said:
The processing and transportation of food seems to be the weakest link.

One problem we experienced when the sweet & sour sniffles hit, was the processing facilities slowing down or stopping. Plenty of live animals ready to be harvested, but there was a disruption in the pipe line. That problem is exacerbated by the relatively small number of processing plants located far away from where many of these animals are grown. Top that off with these plants being owned by a handful of companies (several foreign ones, at that.)

One plant may do 30,000 animals a day, but when it goes offline, that adds up quickly. That model may be more efficient from a cost standpoint, but I submit that it is the most vulnerable to disruptions. Plus, that model depends on animals being trucked many miles to the plant, only to be trucked many miles back out to the grocery stores.

I raise my own pork and beef and the local processor I use quickly became booked up through 2020. Luckily I had planned to take some steers in March, right as business boomed for them. They had to reduce availability of more time consuming products like bone broth, tallow, and some smoked products. Places like that aren't exactly on every corner either.

Of course things can and will happen on the production side. That has always been the case. Fire, drought, storms, disease and so on. I think China has had a rough time recently with African swine fever. Some of that stuff just can't simply be predicted with any particular accuracy.
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Lol at 'sweet and sour sniffles'... I will have to use that.

If our gov wasn't dominated by Big Ag, Big Food, and Big Grocery (among all the others) they'd be supporting the growth of smaller, distributed food production, processing and sales, including sales direct from processors and farms.

But no. Big biz has bought lots of laws over many years to kill their competition and protect their markets. Forget about the consumer.

ETA: Remember how farmer's markets (mostly outdoors with no shopping carts and plenty of room to distance) got shut down while all the groceries were deemed essential, with no restrictions for months?
 
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Infamous1 said:
30 days without power would be rough!
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Think of it this way. In the time frame of a month, we'd be reduced to basically the mid to late 1800s. No refrigeration, no freezers, no electric lights, many areas wouldn't have water or working sewage. By this point for those who remain in the cities, assuming the gangs haven't taken over, or the suburbs, dysentery has likely become a serious problem, food is all but gone, and the masses will either be in exodus or dying.

This one blogger I follow has been producing a series called The Collapse on their YT channel. Overall, it's pretty well done and the premise is that some patriots decided that they needed to act in response to draconian gun control. Though it's not stated in the video, it was based upon the idea of Kamala Harris becoming president.
 
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BatteryOaksBilly said:
IF the power was to go Off for 30 days....we would look like a 3rd world nation. I only know 1 person in my life's aquaintancises that could go on for 30 days without public supplied power. 30 days would eat up all propane and gas powered generators..then the rot would begin. Pray the power doesn't go off...Pray.
Now....let's hear all the ways None of this could possibly affect you!
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As far as food goes, Doc would be the last man standing if SHTF.
 
Infamous1 said:
30 days without power would be rough! I like to think I am a survivor but when you actually start to think about it and all the implications that it would bring it gets pretty formidable. It would not be a hole up and wait 30 days situation because you would not know when it would come back on. No more fuel than you have on hand, water and effluent pump stations stop working in municipalities, freezers thaw, convience stores close...just damn.
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I need more canned goods, and a way to pump water by hand from the well, like at Granny's house, and lots more EverClear....it's good for fuel and sanitizing and drinking! And more solar power packs, got to have a phone. I have a river nearby, too, so I can bathe.
 
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Millie said:
I need more canned goods, and a way to pump water by hand from the well, like at Granny's house, and lots more EverClear....it's good for fuel and sanitizing and drinking! And more solar power packs, got to have a phone. I have a river nearby, too, so I can bathe.
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You’ll have to share that river with the Mexicans already using it.
 
Millie said:
I need more canned goods, and a way to pump water by hand from the well, like at Granny's house, and lots more EverClear....it's good for fuel and sanitizing and drinking! And more solar power packs, got to have a phone. I have a river nearby, too, so I can bathe.
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Check out the Simple Pump options:
https://www.simplepump.com/
 
Tailhunter said:
You’ll have to share that river with the Mexicans already using it.
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The part we use is on private property, and takes a drive past houses to get to.

I suppose they might float down to our landing, though...lol.
Luckily for me, I still have some Spanish left from living in Mexico for a decade. We'll be fine.:)
 
Well, I know where is it a cabin, a beaver pond, a creek, deer, turkey, wild pigs, grapes, blackberries, wood, unmarked graves, marijuana.

I might be okay for a while.
 
Millie said:
The part we use is on private property, and takes a drive past houses to get to.

I suppose they might float down to our landing, though...lol.
Luckily for me, I still have some Spanish left from living in Mexico for a decade. We'll be fine.:)
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You can speak spanish? Can you make good corn tortillas and tacos?
 
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