Complaints about big US flag at Gander/Camping World

[ChickenHawk]

Thanks !

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Glad I’m not the only one that sent them an email. I think a direct campaign is better than a petition on a website that seems anti-2A. I informed them that if anything is allowed to fly on someone’s property it should be the flag of this great nation, and that I hope they will reconsider the fines and lawsuit.

 

[Qball]

I certainly support anyone and any business that chooses to fly our nation's flag. I think it should be illegal in this country for a government entity, or any entity for that matter, to prevent a citizen or organization from proudly flying the flag.

Now that I said that, I do have to point out something that I've noticed on I-40 in Greensboro for some time now. Has anyone seen the huge flag that Camping World flies just beside I-40 where business 40 and I-40 splits?

I've told my wife several times to imagine what could possibly happen if that flag broke loose from a wind out of the north when the traffic was moving along at 70 - 90 mph as it usually is through there when it's not rush hour. During rush hour it wouldn't be a big deal because of stalled traffic.

 

[spittinfire]

They should be able to fly the flag, that I don’t question but not long ago they were telling me to pound sand so I have a hard time supporting them.



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[Millie]

I was in Gander Outdoors in Fayetteville a few weeks ago. Biggest American flag flying I ever saw. It is spectacular.

I agree, I go by it several times a week, and it's an amazing sight to see.

 

[Schattenreiter]

I certainly support anyone and any business that chooses to fly our nation's flag. I think it should be illegal in this country for a government entity, or any entity for that matter, to prevent a citizen or organization from proudly flying the flag.

Now that I said that, I do have to point out something that I've noticed on I-40 in Greensboro for some time now. Has anyone seen the huge flag that Camping World flies just beside I-40 where business 40 and I-40 splits?

I've told my wife several times to imagine what could possibly happen if that flag broke loose from a wind out of the north when the traffic was moving along at 70 - 90 mph as it usually is through there when it's not rush hour. During rush hour it wouldn't be a big deal because of stalled traffic.

Certainly it would be a big deal rush hour or not. But i would be the same thing if pretty much anything blew into the highway. How about if a plane vrashed in the roadway or one even had an emergency and had to land there. We can play what if all day.

 

[HMP]

Thanks !

I sent this.

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Didnt he say that he didnt want Trump supporters in his locations? Or did he use the word Patriot?

 

[Duane]

I just read this email and like most, I felt the need to sign and share. However, I’m not intrigued to support anything promoted by Change.org.
Of course, when you sign you are offered other “petitions “ to sign.

Which is EXACTLY why I don't participate in any of those petitions.

 

[ChickenHawk]

I got an email back from one of the city council members saying that they feel the same way. Hopefully the bad press makes something happen.

 

[HMP]

Hell, the forum logo has the American flag on it

Or this shirt with THREE flags on it, two on top of each other.

No disrespect to DM or this forum, that isnt my intention, but I do find it funny when people ignore 'flag etiquette' until it's someone they dont like doing the 'bad' thing.






Whether you like Gander or not, it should brighten your dang day that there are some HUGE American flags flying proudly in this state and country.

 

[S4f]

I thought stamps and shirts were representations of the flag and not an actual flag hence they are not required to be burned, saluted, or flown at half staff.

 

[Qball]

Certainly it would be a big deal rush hour or not. But i would be the same thing if pretty much anything blew into the highway. How about if a plane vrashed in the roadway or one even had an emergency and had to land there. We can play what if all day.

I don't disagree about the premise that anything can happen. They certainly have the right to fly that flag. I was just pointing out the fact that their particular flag looks a little spooky when the wind is blowing hard and you're driving down I-40 in fast traffic.

 

[9outof10mms]

You won’t find an article of clothing in my house with the flag on it. I cringe during the Olympics when some sweaty athlete drapes themself in the US flag. I scoff at every business that is blatantly using the flag for advertisement.

I’m no fanboy of laws and the gubbermint telling us what to do. The flag code is actually not enforceable as a law—if I remember correctly back to my ROTC days where I learned a good portion of it.

My point in all of this is we’re increasing irreverent as Americans. We can’t even use our own flag appropriately. Yet we get all up in arms about disrespect of veterans or some other perceived display of patriotism.

I’m not going to judge the CEO of Gander. He might genuinely want to express patriotism through the flying of the biggest flag in town. If that were the case, he should do it reverently and respect the flag code. No different than lighting it if flown at night. No different than keeping it off the ground. You can’t pick and choose which parts to honor and which to toss because they’re contrary to your business plan.

 

[Mirac]

Didnt he say that he didnt want Trump supporters in his locations? Or did he use the word Patriot?

I took the liberty of softening the wording so as to have the snowflakes at least read it to the end, instead of throwing it in the trash when they hit the word ‘Trump’

 

[DangerRuss]

If that were the case, he should do it reverently and respect the flag code. No different than lighting it if flown at night. No different than keeping it off the ground.

Honest question - is he flying it in a way that violates the code?

 

[JohnFreeman]

Let that bad boy fly!

I enjoy the one on 70

 

[B00ger]

Fun fact: Some US flags at Disney only have 45 stars making it legal for them to leave them up over night and not retreat them. This way they aren’t really Us flags.


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[Tailhunter]

We need more rules and regulations.
Please force some more upon us because our freedoms are no where near complete extinction.

If I want to fly the flag, then some nanny shouldn’t have the right to tell me different.

 

[Oneofsix]

Fun fact: Some US flags at Disney only have 45 stars making it legal for them to leave them up over night and not retreat them. This way they aren’t really Us flags.


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Dang Commies!

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[Tailhunter]

 

[Cowboy]

I agree they knew the local ordinance prior to placing the flag. So while I may support our flag I don't support whoring it out for a show. In a shocking situational change the statesville city council got one right.

 

[B00ger]

It's funny that they go through all that work, considering that even with the missing stars or stripes, they are, in fact, still US flags.

The words 'flag, standard, colors, or ensign', as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.​

If it kind-of looks like a US flag, it's a US flag.

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[Catfish]

Federal Flag code is not the issue that Gander is getting fined over. They are being held to a local ordinance. We *should* be asking who gets to decide how big is their flag.

 

[Schattenreiter]

Fun fact: Some US flags at Disney only have 45 stars making it legal for them to leave them up over night and not retreat them. This way they aren’t really Us flags.


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It is legal to display the flag 24 hours a day if properly illuminated during hours of darkness.

 

[HMP]

Do they still have flags in classrooms, and the Pledge of Allegiance?

yep, every day
I cant make a kid say the Pledge, but I ask that they stand during the 20 seconds

 

[CZfool68]

Ah the almighty School Pledge of Allegiance.

All hail the State! And train ‘em while they are young and impressionable.

 

[B00ger]

It is legal to display the flag 24 hours a day if properly illuminated during hours of darkness.

These aren’t, they are the smaller ones on buildings. They have a “real” one that they have a lowering and raising ceremony for or they leave lights on it.


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[georgel]

Ah the almighty School Pledge of Allegiance.

All hail the State! And train ‘em while they are young and impressionable.

Kind of a two edge sword isn't it? If more respected that pledge, wouldn't we be better off? It's all about what it represents or what it should represent.

 

[Hammer12b]

Anyone complaining about the flag should be immediately escorted to the nearest border/ocean and chunked over/in it and never allowed back on American soil. Period.

Me as a 30 year veteran doesn’t see this as a “flag” issue. The city isn’t saying that they can’t fly a flag. They’re saying that they can’t fly one that big. They are using this issue as a free publicity stunt and I don’t agree with that. The US Flag Code specially points this out. Fly the flag, but fly it as stated by law. That still honors us as Americans and veterans.

 

[noway2]

It's all about what it represents or what it should represent.

I say the same thing about this country as a whole.

 

[BBD280]

Me as a 30 year veteran doesn’t see this as a “flag” issue. The city isn’t saying that they can’t fly a flag. They’re saying that they can’t fly one that big. They are using this issue as a free publicity stunt and I don’t agree with that. The US Flag Code specially points this out. Fly the flag, but fly it as stated by law. That still honors us as Americans and veterans.

I really wasn't talking about this instance in particular. I was really referencing anyone who speaks out against the flag in general. I couldn't care less about Gander or their issue with the city. Looking back I can see where it looks like I was siding with them but that's not the case.

 

[Mirac]

A response and my reply...

 

[GeorgeBush]

It's on Drudge Report this morning... City of Statesville is gonna get emails from all over the country now.

 

[Cowboy]

Just a quick question for everyone that says let it fly. They knew it was to big and did it anyway breaking the local ordinance. So if you are for rule of law like deporting illegal aliens and sanctuary cities. How can you be for this.

 

[Mike Overlay]

Just a quick question for everyone that says let it fly. They knew it was to big and did it anyway breaking the local ordinance. So if you are for rule of law like deporting illegal aliens and sanctuary cities. How can you be for this.

Illegals actually hurt the we the people in some sort of way, physically, financially, criminally etc. Flying a flag no matter how big or small it is does not harm anyone in any way.

 

[Schattenreiter]

Just a quick question for everyone that says let it fly. They knew it was to big and did it anyway breaking the local ordinance. So if you are for rule of law like deporting illegal aliens and sanctuary cities. How can you be for this.

Get back to me on this one when every time you look at your speedometer it says exactly or less than the signs say. You know rule of law and all.

And just for the record I support deporting illegals but not sanctuary cities.

 

[Mike Overlay]

A response and my reply...



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Awe yeah, how big can it go..

 

[Catfish]

Just a quick question for everyone that says let it fly. They knew it was to big and did it anyway breaking the local ordinance. So if you are for rule of law like deporting illegal aliens and sanctuary cities. How can you be for this.

Because every human being that ever existed is capable of holding simultaneous conflicting opinions. It's our default setting.

I am in favor of both "rule of law" in general and ignoring unjust laws.

 

[GeorgeBush]

Well in that case it depends if you're the sort of person who likes an HOA or not. I doubt they have flag size standards for any kind of safety reason... so it's basically like those places who fine you for having an ugly mailbox or front door.

Forget for a minute that it's the flag... why is government involved in something so small and silly?

Illegal aliens and sanctuary cities have been demonstrated to be 10,000x more important than this; they are directly attributable to many murders and other crimes. They are a drain on tax dollars and other demonstrable resources...

I don't think it's a good comparison but that's just me-

(sorry I was responding to what Cowboy said but I forgot to hit that button)

 

[Cowboy]

I'm just playing devils advocate to a degree. But I do feel that if they have done this everywhere they have been looking for this fight, waiting for this fight and hoping to have this fight. I feel they are simply whoring out OUR American flag for a free dollar of advertising.

 

[Mike Overlay]

I'm just playing devils advocate to a degree. But I do feel that if they have done this everywhere they have been looking for this fight, waiting for this fight and hoping to have this fight. I feel they are simply whoring out OUR American flag for a free dollar of advertising.

Here in Gastonia, Gander had to apply for a permit to fly the flag. How high of a pole and what size. Light approvals also.
Willing to bet its the same way at all of the stores.

 

[Catfish]

Ok then, another devil's advocate question:
Is getting attention the same thing as advertising? You can't advertise anything if you don't have the attention of the public. But now that they have it, what are they doing with that attention?