Cooper gonna shut it down

Yeah most anyone that in medical would love to made to stay home. I told my mom today that if she left the house again to go ahead and get a hotel to stay in. I think she got my point. We will be shrinking our office hours so we can close next week. Going to give our PPE we have in stock at work to rescue and hospital in Angier and Dunn.

We homeschool, so thus far, aside from not being able to find toilet paper, we've not been effected. But since I'm in healthcare, I still have to get up and go to work like any other day before the pandemic.
 
It's completely powerless and unenforceable.

Get pulled over, just say you're headed to grocery store. Drive off with a big ole flip of the bird and smile.
Maybe also ask them why they’re breaking your balls for driving around regardless of the reason when the officers leadership has committed them to not even enforcing many crimes at this point.

“where ya going sir?”
“ ya mothers house. Don’t worry, there will only be 9 of us there”
 
Executive Order 121 - Stay-at-Home Order - Page 3, Section 1., 3., iii

Yes, that does say I can go to the outdoor shooting range as long as I don't huddle up with others.
Just getting back from range now myself. Felt great to get out in the sun and foliage.
 
Executive Order 121 - Stay-at-Home Order - Page 3, Section 1., 3., iii

Yes, that does say I can go to the outdoor shooting range as long as I don't huddle up with others.
Just getting back from range now myself. Felt great to get out in the sun and foliage.
 
It's completely powerless and unenforceable.

Get pulled over, just say you're headed to grocery store. Drive off with a big ole flip of the bird and smile.
They say we are "allowed" to exercise. How about I exercise my right to go where I want to?
 
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Winston-Salem following the herd....
 
Well it’s come out Cooper will not mess with Gun shops as long as they apply the 6 foot social distancing thing. Read Page 5 FAQ about half way down ...
https://files.nc.gov/governor/documents/files/200327_FAQ-SAH-Order_FINAL.pdf
Are gun stores allowed to operate?
Gun stores implementing social distancing requirements for employees and customers as defined in the order may remain open.
So unless a gun shop’s county or municipality has enacted an order they can stay open under the state order as long as they abide by that 6 foot rule.
 
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Here's a suggestion for the ... brilliant leaders ... in local government: reissue your local stay-at-home orders to cite the state order and ONLY what would be extra in your local order.
 
Here's my version of the "Stay at Home" order-

Effective Immediately, ALL .gov employees, elected officials, .gov groupies, .gov wannabees, are to stay at home. They are not to exert themselves upon the population by any means. All taxes are now null and void. This order to be in effect until we run out of either tar or feathers. :D
 
Makes me want to take a Sunday drive this weekend.

Just take a drive down I-95 or I-85 to a rest stop somewhere, have a picnic lunch all by my socially separated self, then drive back.

With a copy of my work correspondence showing Uncle Sam considers me to be essential and my CAC and shipyard security card for ID, along with my mandated COVID-19 questionnaire that I have to carry with me. Just to thumb my nose at him.
 
Makes me want to take a Sunday drive this weekend.

Just take a drive down I-95 or I-85 to a rest stop somewhere, have a picnic lunch all by my socially separated self, then drive back.

With a copy of my work correspondence showing Uncle Sam considers me to be essential and my CAC and shipyard security card for ID, along with my mandated COVID-19 questionnaire that I have to carry with me. Just to thumb my nose at him.

I carry a Glock. I don’t show im essential, I tell them I’m essential. If someone don’t like it, take it up with Gaston and leave me out of it.
 
We need to bombard the High Governor Roy Cooper's webpage....but in all honesty, YES....he has been following the lead of the other Governors....and was proactive. That proactivity that started NC to get on board and limit things and also "put out the word" will prevent us from being an epicenter. Don't go crazy with that statement. Roy occassionally acts responsibly. Our international community....(RTI area) and our diverse employment workforce.... were effectively "shut down" much earlier. I have friends (of the liberal faction) in Richmond and they did not see what all the hoopla was about. They entertained guests just arriving from Great Britain. NOTE, the CDC said to Self Quarantine for 14 day. WELL now, their friends were NOT sick and were nice people and would not go where the evil people (the underlings and masses) would congregate. They were of the "UNIVERSITY" crowd and they were protected by their God Given Right to be Snobs. You think that is a "tale". Factual....

SO....We are under a "closure" that was done for effect. YES....it does limit our ability to do stuff. But, as a 75 YO (without all the underlying conditions....just being an old Codger), Me and DW are self imposed and not socializing. We might have been out for groceries or meds ONCE since the first of the month. I have a nephew that is very intelligent and is a mid level (quite high) in a major Pharmaceutical company. His wife is a little lower....but they have been selected to be on special teams and do acquisitions and compliance work and such. They traveled all over the world. From maybe March 5, they were told by their CEO, in a confidential memo, to STAY at Home. They outrank (pay and organizational level) the Plant Managers of some NC operations. They, as well as others, are BANNED from entering ANY facility in NC or the world. These Pharmaceuticals are pumping out meds and vaccines and plasma and god only knows what at peak capacity. ONLY the "Manufacturing Related" personnel are allowed inside. That means that the Accounting and HR and many of the "Logistics" or the folks that order their chemicals and compounds and raw materials are BANNED. If you can do your job from home with a cell and a laptop (or computer), then you are NOT inside. ONLY the folks that have to wear the bunny suits and masks and such.

Now....is that Draconian. Many think so. BUT....when you have people that have world wide operations and they understand the seriousness of this virus.....then you want to err on the side of caution and conservatism.....

I DO feel and understand the impact on folks that have busy lives and kids and bills to pay and jobs to go to and hobbies and whatever....believe me I do. My daughter is a teacher. She is at home. She spends about 6 hours per day in video training sessions. The school system is going to launch at "virtual" classroom and they have raided the schools and will distribute the iPads and Laptops to students that do not have such. On a more sarcastic tone.....how they gonna get the word out if nobody got a computer or broadband to the folks will less resources. They text and email them on their ObamaPhones.....

No more ranting.....lets close with a positive note....and WHY we need to bombard OLD Roy Cooper. Bring in the NG. SET UP ROADBLOCKS on major interstates.....UNPRECEDENTED you say.... Read on....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rhode-island-hunting-down-new-yorkers-seeking-coronavirus-refuge

If the various shut downs will lessen the crowds that were having "Corona and Virus" parties....then I'm all for it. We can NOT let this spread. NYC gets horror story headlines....and Cuomo is gunning for Biden to become the "savior" Dem Prez Candidate.

But, in reality.....the world....just NOT the US was caught flat footed. NO ONE ever planned (or would have thought to plan) for the magnitude of this virus. We do NOT have a TamiFlu drug that we can put people on when we think they have it. We do NOT have a vaccine that we can mass inject. We barely have one "Theraputic" treatment....which is being rushed in development and will require a distribution effort that we have never seen or had to face today.

Maybe I am a little gloom and doom. I want to be virus free or know that there are resources should I become ill. I want my children and GK to not "catch it" and hope that their immune system will fiend it off.

The community spreading will slow down once warmer weather and higher humidity comes. We have also eliminated one major contributor to the "Seasonal Flu"....being cooped up in offices and schools and malls and theaters and pubs and whatever in cold weather. THAT is one of the, if not the major, sources of catching the Seasonal Flu.....so being socially distanced....practicing good hygiene (which few rarely do) and all the other things buys us time.....hotter weather and time for the supply chains to be replenished and the big Pharmas to start producing some needed "remedies" as well as developing and testing and gearing up for a massive vaccine program.

Some of you lived through the Polio Epidemic of the 50's I and my wife did. Swimming pools and playgrounds and Sunday Schools and movie theaters were shut down then. Parents would not let strangers or other kids near their children. My mom and dad did....I did not contract it....but I had classmates that did. Some recovered with no ill effects. Some had issues. Some died. NOW we find out that folks that recovered back then....with seemingly NO impacts die younger or get life threatening diseases or conditions. There have been studies.....not really well funded....but the evidence is there.

We do NOT want to have another generation that might be carrying dormant or supposedly cured conditions that in 40 years or so will decrease their lifespan or their quality of life....

Thanks...
 
I’ve already specd out plans for mounting AR on the top of Jeep roll bar :)

not for nothing though, but with nearly everyone out of work or working remote, why would anyone be traveling 500+ miles to NC of all places at this point. It’s not like we having sporting events, concerts or anything like that?the snowbirds are Florida bound. NC nondescript enough that I don’t expect many to be here at this point.
There is a LOT of dim.
We call em halfbacks or inbetweens. Those GD NY and Jersey folks love WNC. Ya seeem everywhere, they dont wave, tip their hat or make eye contact. Out here in the county I raised one index finger on the sterein wheel out on our two lane and I get a middle finger backwards. They drive in the yeild and merge lane and expect you to yield to them! Anyway----- They register live and get their benefits in New York in the spring, , They winter in Florida and they summer and Fall in WNC. And it looks like those damn sunbleached brain Californians are beginning to infest WNC also. There is a whole group ofem that are here flippin houses and spreaded disease. In Asheville there are few natives left--I dont ask folks where they are from anymore, I just ask if they are from the SOUTH? If they laugh, I turn and walk away and if I can I fart as I leave the area.
 
Cliff notes?
Quit Bitchin' NC is ahead of the curve. If you want to bitch....then bitch at Dan Forest and the Council of State. When they "defied the Gov's authority", they turned into a bunch of whiners. EVEN WORSE. Dan lost political point and votes. Richard Burr will be targeted for "Removal". AG Stein has already made the noise. He CAN (without Legislative authority) launch an investigation. NOW....if that doesn't sink in..... Trump's WORST enemy is NOT the Dem House. It is the NY AG that wants his tax returns for the Democrats BEFORE the election. He is, on the QT, fighting that. The public laughed at the ridiculous impeachment and it turned into a joke. Trump made money and used the tax laws.....just like Buffett and everyone else.

NOW, what astute person remembers that Nancy's Pelosi's BIL was the beneficiary of a LARGE Solar contract in Obama's Shovel Ready Bailout? That was conveniently buried ....it was NOT Solara....but a similar smaller one.

If Dan does not knock out Roy (and that game is now over....before it really started), then if AG Stein starts raking the muck and there is a move to REMOVE Burr.....do you really think that Old Roy will appoint Pat McCrory?

Cliff notes..... Roy has actually acted with some backbone. YES....i bitch. BUT, my family is a lot safer. Me and my Nephew have seized this opportunity to convince them to NOT TAKE CHANCES. As much as I hate to say it....I feel safer and my family is safer and there are millions of NC citizens that are safer because Roy acted. We COULD have been NYC or New Orleans.

The recent political gamesmanship is funny and it don't bother me. I can read the exemptions. I ain't mounting an AR on my car and hoisting a don't tread on me flag and drive around. I will stay sheltered. I will assist our church, as a trustee to keep our mission programs going and offer some guidance since I am a retired Safety, Environmental and the "Chief" Emergency Plan coordinator.

All the banter about things that don't keep me personally safe is nice. I vent all the time. BUT....in reality....I am glad that I live in NC. I will probably NOT vote for Roy....but I sure have issues with the capability of Dan. Pat McCrory would have taken action a bit sooner.....I know his behavior and have friends that were close to him.

End of Rant.... Gotta clean my exercise equipment for an outing next week....which is PERMITTED.... If you did not understand the post....then I apologize....it was broad brushed and is factual....
 
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Cliff notes for this one also?

No offense to your large number of posts and such. But, that is as short as it gets. Read the first sentence. If you are trolling me, then i will ignore you....again....no offense....

We don't need this forum to turn into something that can be misconstrued. There is a Timothy McVeigh DEAD wannabe this morning. (Google if you missed it). Legitimate and law abiding Firearms Owners suffer enough ridicule....without blatant and brazen statements about conspiracies and defying lawful orders....
 
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I think that some of my buddies will be distributing videos with more Yoga breathing and stress relieving techniques. Some of those have buxom young female instructors who are advocates that clothing impedes the overall effect and provide such videos of them demonstrating the REAL NUDE YOGA sessions. I fear if I posted such, that it would not be well received..... LOL....thanks....we DO need to calm down and focus on our safety....
 
@RetiredUSNChief now has some serious competition!!!

It's no competition!

He put forth some VERY important issues and, while I am quite glib with tongue-in-cheek postings, the reality is that whatever may be the final outcome with respect to the actual efficacy of this pandemic outbreak, what we're attempting here, and around the world, is a proactive response which has the potential to turn the tide BEFORE it reaches epic fatality levels.

If nothing else, perhaps this will once again motivate people to actual eradication level movements with vaccines.

We have actually only eliminated ONE disease among the human population: smallpox. We've nearly eliminated a handful of others (like measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, etc) despite the ability to totally eradicate them like we did with smallpox.

Why? We have demonstrated the ability. We have radically progressed towards that end. Why haven't we completed it?

(Rhetorical question.)
 
Dont answer the door and you're good.

My door bell rang yesterday afternoon. The mail lady dropped off a Priority Mail box, unfortunately not ammo. I looked out the window and she couldn't have moved any faster without running. Behind schedule? Or afraid? Either way never seen her move that fast. Can't blame her if she is doing her best to avoid human contact. I've been hand washing after picking up the mail and going through it, etc. Been going out on the porch and waiting for food deliveries.

And yet here you are... :p

Add to that parts of NC keep getting rated the best place to live in the US for around a decade.

It's worked well for us. Ya got lucky with me though. I've never been a liberal northerner. Even growing up in Chicago. I have no desire to return. There or Jersey, where we moved from. I'm just sorry we stayed in Mecklenburg county when we bought a home.
 
It's no competition!

He put forth some VERY important issues and, while I am quite glib with tongue-in-cheek postings, the reality is that whatever may be the final outcome with respect to the actual efficacy of this pandemic outbreak, what we're attempting here, and around the world, is a proactive response which has the potential to turn the tide BEFORE it reaches epic fatality levels.

If nothing else, perhaps this will once again motivate people to actual eradication level movements with vaccines.

We have actually only eliminated ONE disease among the human population: smallpox. We've nearly eliminated a handful of others (like measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, etc) despite the ability to totally eradicate them like we did with smallpox.

Why? We have demonstrated the ability. We have radically progressed towards that end. Why haven't we completed it?

(Rhetorical question.)

answer to latter is lack of education on vaccination. Many won’t do it. The things we (as a species) did to ensure snallpox eradication would make China look like the gold standard for medical ethics.

not saying good or bad. Just complicated
 
And yet here you are... :p

Add to that parts of NC keep getting rated the best place to live in the US for around a decade.

yes for political cultural and economic reasons. I wouldn’t be hear during a pandemic for no reason. If I was buggin out legit from up north with no plan I would be heading to Wyoming or something lol.
 
yes for political cultural and economic reasons. I wouldn’t be hear during a pandemic for no reason. If I was buggin out legit from up north with no plan I would be heading to Wyoming or something lol.

WOW....coming from someone in the epicenter of the liberal snowflake pandemic that has swept the USA and not gotten the attention that it deserves..... your comments are interesting. I only offer some simple humor since reality understanding appears to be a diminished skill set.... to some....

https://news.yahoo.com/rhode-island-police-hunt-down-211405349.html

Folks that will not go to FOX for fear of browser or intellect contamination might open the above. I wonder if they will offer a "Bounty" and if so, can enterprising individuals, with the appropriate safety devices and armament, be "deputized", as in a FEE DEPUTY to seek out those Scalawags from NY (or CT or NJ)? If so....I might just join up in the spirit of public safety....

@Sigequinox220

I offer the following for the Chapel Hill Street Maintenance department's consideration......

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All that asswipe is doing is showing himself over and over. Like any lie, and that's what he is, if you tell it (or in this case show it) over and over stupid people and academics will believe it.
 
Youngsville PD responds to State order:

Dear Youngsville Residents:

The Youngsville Police Department is committed to the preservation of your liberties and freedoms. In response to Executive Order No. 121, we do not condone, nor will we practice vehicle or pedestrian stops for the sole purpose of inquiring to what purpose anyone is traveling through town. To do so raises significant concerns regarding the 4th Amendment and the necessary “reasonable suspicion” required to stop or detain. The right to freely and securely travel is a protected right afforded to every American citizen and it is a right we will continue to uphold.

Public safety and security are largely based upon responsible personal decision making. These difficult times require a healthy dose of prudence and common sense on the individual level. As such, I trust our residents will continue to utilize universal precautions and take whatever personal measures they feel will provide the best care for themselves and their families.

Our officers are taking increased measures to prevent unnecessary exposure of COVID-19 while providing continued police protection. In an effort to deter crime while mitigating health risks, we are conducting high visibility patrols, but will be limiting contact to emergency response and the enforcement in case of significant violation. Our administrative services are currently significantly reduced and public access to the department is closed; however, residents may continue to call our non-emergency number with any questions or concerns and we will respond during normal business hours.

As always, residents are reminded to call 911 in case of emergency.
Yours truly in public service,
Chief Whitley
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2808971435877505&id=309583279149679
 
WOW....coming from someone in the epicenter of the liberal snowflake pandemic that has swept the USA and not gotten the attention that it deserves..... your comments are interesting. I only offer some simple humor since reality understanding appears to be a diminished skill set.... to some....

https://news.yahoo.com/rhode-island-police-hunt-down-211405349.html

Folks that will not go to FOX for fear of browser or intellect contamination might open the above. I wonder if they will offer a "Bounty" and if so, can enterprising individuals, with the appropriate safety devices and armament, be "deputized", as in a FEE DEPUTY to seek out those Scalawags from NY (or CT or NJ)? If so....I might just join up in the spirit of public safety....

@Sigequinox220

I offer the following for the Chapel Hill Street Maintenance department's consideration......

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ha, I'm all in. But @SnowRooster might have a problem with it. he has a soft spot for chapel hill residents.
 
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Nice to hear leadership in dept setting tone for not harassing public, but also not advertising what crimes they will/will not be enforcing. The latter is dumbest thing I ever heard PD leadership say. though my memory could be misplacing blame on PD leadership, as their idiot mayors, etc may have been the ones to speak for them. either way...
 
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