Dallas officer goes home to wrong apartment, kills man inside

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  1. cubrock

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    I don't have a problem believing her story. Doesn't change the fact that she killed an apparently innocent man and she should be held accountable just like we would.

    Also, I suspect had she walked into most of our apartments/houses, things would have turned out a bit differently. Imagine what would have happened had he been armed and shot her as an intruder.
     
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    That's how I judge right from wrong, societal norms. :rolleyes:
     
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    Then she would have gotten exactly what she deserved, just as any other home invader.
     
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    Since you're not posting from under a bridge ...or prison I'll say that's exactly what you do.
     
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    Her story. Guyger's account from the search warrant issued to search the deceased’s apartment for “contraband including narcotics” (which seems totally relevant to the case at hand, right? Surely such evidence wouldn’t be used to smear the victim of the crime, right?) seems to differ from her story in the arrest affidavit.

    According to the warrant, Jean "confronted" Guyger "at the door" while she was trying to get into the apartment.

    The arrest affidavit, though, says Guyger was able to open the door and then saw Jean "across the room."

    So yeah - her story keeps on changing.
     
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    You know she didn't write the warrant or the affidavit so it isn't her story.
     
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    Ah.....so it isn't her lying about what happened, it's multiple officers within multiple agencies?

    That's better......
     
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    And we keep hearing about the police are on our side.....These are the people are the modern nazi, that is just sad.

    Every officer that posts things like this, needs to reevaluated for their current position.
     
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    I wonder if the authorities will make her take a polygraph? The FBI, CIA and many other 3 letter agencies use them to vet employees.
     
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    Cowboy Glances can deceive

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    Oh come on dude. Your verging on Pelosi and Corey Booker stupidity with that comment.
     
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    I don't know about anyone else but, I don't follow anyone else's commands in my own home! Home invaders have been known to pose as cops.

    Terry
     
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    If you walk in to my home unannounced, you had better hope it would be one of the extremely rare occasions that I am unarmed.

    IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO OR WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE.

    The idiot needs to go down for this. She should be treated like one of us. At the very least. I for one, feel as though police officers should be hammered even harder than the rest of us for crap like this. Any crimes they commit for that matter. They are the ones who should know better.

    We have a rule. All doors that lead to the exterior are to be locked at all times. No exceptions.
     
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    They can't make her, and the result is likely inadmissible anyway.

    I am surprised a lot of people think this is a bipolar thing: innocent, or murder. There's a lot of gray area she should be charged with: manslaughter, depraved indifference, to name a couple.
     
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    They could have taken her outside and hung her mob style and people would be saying but why didn't they do it faster.
     
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    Pretty sure that Dallas does not have a Union, that was just speculation by some folks here.
     
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    Is the Dallas Police Association a union?
    https://www.dallaspa.org/
     
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    Sounds a lot like a union. But them sneaky folks don't use the U word. Guess in TX that might be unpopular.
     
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    No , It's an organization like the PBA or FOP. It has no negotiating power.
     
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    Hence the sarcasm. Bugs me that they are trying to smear the dead guy to take attention off of the LEO.
     
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    You expected ethical behaviour from a police dept?
     
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    LOL, true, very true.

    However, I'm not suggesting that due process not be given to the offender.

    I just believe that people entrusted with the powers that police have should be held to a higher standard and if they fail to uphold their end of the bargain, they need to be punished to the fullest extent.

    While we're on the subject of police getting away with murder, here is an interesting article about so called "qualified immunity".

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/end-qualified-immunity-supreme-court/
     
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    But this situation had nothing to do with work besides she was in uniform.
    So are you saying because you are a policeman you should be held to a higher account if your entire life on duty and off for the rest of your life? I get they should be held to a higher account while on duty.
     
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    I don't think anyone meant "for the rest of your life", but at least while still on the job, under oath, and especially in uniform on/off duty. Certain positions in society do, in fact, come with a higher degree of scrutiny than others. Public servants, clergy, educators and the like all have a bit more of a microscope put on them, and when they take on that profession they accept the fact that they will be under a higher degree of scrutiny.
     
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    Doesn't matter that she was off duty. On or off, in or out of uniform, she is still a sworn LEO with all the same powers (and responsibilities) of arrest and force 24/7!

    Terry
     
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    Police obtained a search warrant for narcotics mere hours after one of their own murdered the guy. Why? What bearing does any of it have on the investigation where a cop killed another person as that person was peaceably in his own home not bothering or hurting a fly?

    Then they waited until the day of his funeral to announce what they “found.” Dollars to donuts the evidence was planted (and before anyone cries foul, there’s plenty of evidence that everything from drugs to guns get planted on suspects when needed).

    Even if it wasn’t and if it belonged to the deceased, it has nothing to do with the situation at hand other than to try and poison the well of potential jurors so one of their own goes free.
     
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    How convenient they found some weed. Stupid crap. They think we care if he had weed. I don't care if he had 2 kilos of cocaine. He got murdered for no reason other than an the force hired an incompetent officer. Like many, many other incompetent cops of this era.
     
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    I don't want them held to a higher standard, just an EQUAL standard.
     
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    Kinda off: when my staff is off work, but in our work uniform, they "represent" us. Act like you are at work. Don't like it, bring a change of clothes and you can be a big of an ass as you want!
     
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    So a different neighbor posted on social media that the shooter has moved out of her apartment with the help of the Dallas PD. Wonder if they searched her residence for marijuana prior to transporting all her stuff to her new place?

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    Anyone know of any other times when the police help a suspect move?
     
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    I do not see DPD vehicles in those pictures nor do I see any definite LEOs (none in uniform). I am gonna say I see coworkers and friends helping a person move.
     
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    Shouldn't you ask, "Does anyone know of any other time coworkers helped someone move?" This Post is total bull crap. So do you drop all of your friends who F up? They can still support her even though they know she screwed up. I guess you shun everyone in your life for mistakes. I am still not convinced she didn't do it on purpose but I cannot say if I knew her I wouldn't support her through all this mess.
     
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    Did you forget that they drug tested her?

    Another vote for BS post.
     
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    There is a level of professionalism and impartiality that is expected from the police when it comes to investgating those accused of a crime.

    Justice, in both its application and result, is blind. There are no caveats for friends or co-workers. In fact, I would argue that it's the unwillingness of law enforcement to understand that the professional aspects of their job extend to their fellow officers that leads to accusations of double standards, bias, and conflict of interest when it comes to an investigation.

    No, you don't abandon friends when they screw up.

    But you also don't compromise the faith of the public in your ability to remain fair and impartial when one of your own is the accused.
     
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    I don’t really see it this way. It a coworker of mine came under investigation for banking fraud, but hadn’t been convicted, I would see no problem with helping him move, or doing whatever he needed up until the point he was convicted. Friends don’t stop being friends just because other people say they screwed up. These specific cops helping with the move probably aren’t the investigators anyway.

    Now if their internal affairs officers or whatever were our chilling with her, then maybe. But I see nothing wrong with friends/coworkers helping one of their own out off the clock.


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    How about getting off your soapbox and realizing people aren't perfect, mistakes happen even big ones and to officers it's a brother hood that helps one another. Through the good and bad. They obviously were all in personal vehicles and cloths so get over it.
     
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