Design Your Personal Sidearm

Discussion in 'Handguns' started by BatteryOaksBilly, Jun 12, 2019 at 3:55 PM.

  1. BatteryOaksBilly

    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    Let's see what YOUR perfect sidearm parameters are. If you could blink and make it so, what are the specifics of your dream handgun? Here are mine:
    1. Caliber...Any centerfire capable of penetrating a 2 inch solid wood board
    2. Barrel length..3-5 inches
    3. Weight loaded...24 ounces Maximum
    4. Capacity....8 up
    5. Sights...low fixed
    6. Trigger..clean 4 pounds or less
    7.Accuracy minimum...2 inches at 25 yards
    8. As close as is mechanically possible to 100% reliability

    This should get us started. You should never be challenged for Your choice or have to defend it. This is for You.
    Obviously mine above Could be Auto or Revolver. With the revolver the weight might be a problem. I'm curious if any of you have even thought of this? Let's see what you would like. Then give us your closest Compromise in production now.
     
  2. MacEntyre

    MacEntyre Shoot on Sight! Charter Member Supporting Member

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    I share your specifics, Billy... but I can say it with fewer words:

    1. Browning Hi Power 9mm

    1a. (alternate) Colt LW Commander 45 acp
     
  3. charliesgrave

    charliesgrave cosmoline enthusiast Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    If we're talking a carry gun....

    1. 9mm
    2. 3-4 inch barrel
    3. Weight is not a factor for me. Heavier means less perceived recoil
    4. At least 10 rounds
    5. Fixed, metal, snag free, tritium
    6. SA/DA trigger, decocker
    7. Durable and reliable
    8. Slim grip is a plus, as well as overall compact size.
    9. I'm not a fan of polymer, and want a metal frame.

    My PCR is close. I need to upgrade to night sights and would like to get some Cajun internals, but I've been procrastinating.
     
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    Catfish E Pluribus Mendacium Charter Member Supporting Member

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  5. BatteryOaksBilly

    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    That's what you were carrying the last time you were here isn't it?
     
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    Burt Gummer Abusive Staff Member Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    My G43 as it sits in my pocket, except for the Glock trigger pull fits that bill
     
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    fieldgrade Well seasoned member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    Likewise. I just have no interest in anything else.
     
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    Red Marley Authorized person Charter Member Supporting Member

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    What Billy said - BUT it also has to fit MY HAND perfectly. So far, that's the P365 and EMP4. I'm counting on the P355XL to be The One.
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    Red Marley Authorized person Charter Member Supporting Member

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    NCFubar Well-Known Member

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    I’ll go a little farther ... Dan Wesson CCO for concealed carry and Springfield Armory Custom Shop Professional for a general purpose.
     
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    ronn47 Where's the Scotch? Charter Member Benefactor Life Member

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    JT Active Member Benefactor Supporting Member

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    I tried, but I can't do it.

    It depends on where I am in space/time.

    :confused:
     
  14. MacEntyre

    MacEntyre Shoot on Sight! Charter Member Supporting Member

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    What is that little thang!?

    Does it inject pison?
     
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    JMB + Saive + Ted Yost = My Perfection I tired to replace it with a Wilson EDC X9 but I still like the way the BHP fits in my hand better bit Bill and his team built nice 1911 like pistol in the EDC X9.

    1. 9mm 124 or 147 Gr
    2. 4.65" Barrel
    3. 39.5 Ozs if I want lighter I can carry an Alloy by Don Williams. For me the weight in the right holster does not bother me.
    4. 13 or 15 Round +1
    5. Fixed sights with gold line.
    6. Trigger is a clean 3lb 10 ozs.
    7. In the right hands it can shoot 2" groups at 25 yards
    8. It has not failed me yet and I trust Mr Yost knows how to build a gun.


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    1. Caliber... 9mm
    2. Barrel length... 4"
    3. Weight loaded... 35.04 oz
    4. Capacity... 18
    5. Sights... Elevation Adjustable Tactical Battlesight with Fiber Optic
    6. Trigger... 4 pounds
    7.Accuracy minimum... 1.5 inches at 25 yards
    8. As close as is mechanically possible to 100% reliability


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    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    Perfect description...1911 "like".
     
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    wvsig Well-Known Member

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    I run mine with the gold bead. Are you running the 18 round mags? They just hit the market. I am interested to see how much that print compared to the 15s.
     
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    Hashknife Active Member Supporting Member

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    I dont have one yet, but I shot one about 3 weeks ago with the 18s and 15s. If one is taller, I dont think the 18s print as much.. YMMV... The gun is amazing. It is the finest shooting carry gun I have shot.
     
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    For CCW/EDC

    1. Caliber...9mm
    2. Barrel length..3-5 inches
    3. Weight loaded...24 ounces Maximum
    4. Capacity....15 and up
    5. Sights...low fixed
    6. Trigger...5lbs or so...I’m not a trigger snob just like a good reset
    7.Accuracy minimum...2 inches at 10 yards standing off hand
    8. As close as is mechanically possible to 100% reliability

    My CZ P07 fits this bill. I don’t shoot enough different triggers to speak well on the differences, but I prefer it to the Glock squish. I like the DA/SA for second strike capability.

    If we are talking “It’s the Wild West and I can carry whatever I want”.

    It’s a toss up between my SP-01 with its massive capacity and excellent ergonomics coupled with reliability and a nice DA/SA trigger and the FNX .45. It does nearly everything the SP-01 does, is slightly less ergonomic and maintains a high capacity but with a larger caliber.





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  21. Hashknife

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    It is an ingenious blend of the best of (2) different platforms. Bill Wilson hit a homerun with this one.
     
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    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    High Praise from a man that can shoot. PM sent.
     
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    That my friend, is a Noisy Cricket. Recoil is a bitch.

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    The Full Size Valor would be my choice.
    Dan Wesson !!
    Dilly Dilly!!
     
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    1. Caliber....357 Magnum
    2. Barrel length...3 inches
    3. Weight loaded...
    4. Capacity...6
    5. Sights...low fixed
    6. Trigger...clean DA
    7. Accuracy minimum...2 inches at 25 yards
    8. As close as is mechanically possible to 100% reliability

    I just described a S&W Model 13 or Model 65. I need to find one of these.
     
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    Solid choice.

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    Glock 19 if I could put in my cz sp-01 trigger or better yet my CZ sp-01 with Glock 19’s dependability
     
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    zuerjoha I *really* like Glock 19s

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    Glock 19 for me. I own a lot of 19s and I have to hold my nose a bit when buying a non-19 handgun (even other Glocks!)
     
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    Howland Your daily dose of snark

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    I'm still waiting for someone to come out with a 10mm in an officer size frame but with a double stack, 12+1 or similar.

    Take my money, please.
     
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    The 5” barrel limit makes my gun not fit the thread.

    My choice, a 6” double-stack 10mm 1911-style.

    Frame would be light and strong. Titanium, maybe. It would have steel rails. Steel slide.


    The frame would be much deeper than standard. Maybe 3/4 to one inch. The reach from the back of the frame to the trigger would be over 3”, to fit my hand.


    Adjustable rear sight. Fiber optic insert on the front. There would be an internal white LED that lights the fiber-optic.


    There would be a high-intensity green laser built into the guide-rod. Battery for this would be in that fatter frame.


    Magazines would be available up to 30 rounds.




    This thread made me Google.... there actually is a gun that would be a good start on such a pistol. The Dan Wesson Mayhem.

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    Rebarrel a Warthog.

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    Are we talking real or imagined here? The Noisy Cricket is fun and I'd love to have a mouse gun that packs such a punch. I'd also love to have a Glock 19 with a 1911 trigger. If we're wishing that is...

    I guess a light weight double stack 1911 in 9mm that cost under $1k and actually works would be really close to my wish. Who makes such a thing?
     
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    Ferrisfan Got here as soon as I could Supporting Member

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    I was going to go down this path with a Star Trek type 2 phaser
     
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    I want a DA/SA hammer fired slightly thinner Glock 19 (with the width between the 19 and the 48). 3lbs SA 7lbs DA would be fine. No safety no decocker.
     
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    How about a 65 Ladysmith?????????????? Come and get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    Geezer's brother had a gun that fit that description perfectly here not long ago. Check with him. It shot GOOD!!!!
     
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    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    There is NO limit. Those demensions were for MY perfect gun.
     
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  38. BatteryOaksBilly

    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    Can you imagine how many of these we could sell. That answers all my defensive handgun needs. Rob Leatham handed me his XD once to shoot and handle. That plastic fantastic had a 2 pound trigger!! Clean and KKKRISPPP! There HAS to be somebody that can do a Glock like that. 4 pounds would be Fine!!
     
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    EAA Witness Compact in 10mm. That thing was bad to the bone. Looked like this one.

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  40. Howland

    Howland Your daily dose of snark

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    DAO? (That would be a dealbreaker.)

    10+1, 12+1?