Discussion in 'Firearms News and Views' started by Alabamacoastie, Jul 26, 2020.
Bingo....you may exit as you entered.
It’s still there. I always wondered about it. Seems like a weird place to advertise against AR’s. I’ve never seen a billboard like it around Charlotte which I would kinda expect.
I have read every one of these posts and just now I actually laughed out loud....how different our life here is. When you commit to pull off the main road onto our .3 mile entrance, there is absolutely NO mistaking you are going to see lotsa firearms. Somebody arriving here and being uncomfortable with firearms would be a Hoot to say the least. That is one funny thought
^^^^^This will happen. They will only let your kids come over but not his come to your house. That would be fine with me as they can mess up and eat their food instead of yours.
One of the members here and I would load up all kinds of guns to go shoot while in the driveway. The neighbors would look at us like we where preparing for Vietnam and talk among themselves. I loved it. Now they know a crazy SOB lives in the hood with an arsenal. Doubt they will beotch about anything to me.
That’s not really how the story is typed, considering the CAPS LOCK portion...or at least not to me.
I can’t imagine disarming on my own property at someone else’s request. I’d try not to make a scene, but not sure I’d be successful.
Nope ... Alabama has a pool and I bet Soyboy looks at it as his wife and kids are “entitled” to use it.
Doesn't drink beer and hates guns? I would have told him to take his ass back to his boyfriend's house and leave his wife there with the closest thing to a real man.
Really though, best to be mature and keep the peace for the sake of the kids, but as others have said, this is the start of a rift that will have the inevitable conclusions had you not just told him to piss up a rope today.
I mean, I abhor cigarette smoke and cats, but I sure as hell don't ask folks to get rid of either at their house.
Also, pics of his wife?
Lots has been covered, and I understand (and appreciate, for the kids and wives sake) why you handled it that way.
The only thing I can add is that when a parent acts that irrationally (and stupidly, re not knowing the pool is the most dangerous thing for his kids) it makes me uncomfortable to allow them hosting my kids. How could you trust that they'd handle a truly stressful or dangerous situation properly? I disallowed my kids visiting a particular neighbor's home for exactly that reason if the idiot dad was the only parent there.
I agree that at the earliest convenience you should set him straight on his rudeness and let him know that you will safely carry whenever you think it is prudent. If that's not okay with him, then he can tell his kids why they can't come visit.
Who knows, if he's had some experience that has freaked him out, maybe if you talk through it rationally he can get over it and you could become friends.
Sort of like Bruce Dern in The Burbs!
Ok if nobody else heard it but me, nobody but him would have heard what my reply would be. He would have understood my position.
I will not disarm in my own home. I rarely invite people inside my house. I expect them to be armed if I invite them over. I’ve stated before,” you can’t provide cover fire with pew, pew, pew!
@Alabamacoastie i like how you handled it. Who knows what possible thing might have happened in his past.
Your mission, if you choose to accept, is to turn him into a fellow shooter. You have the skills, training and the tools.
We look forward to the pic with him holding his first gun.
It’s understandable, Bama drinks lite beer.
So he did not shout it out for all to hear? He is still a jerk, but this makes him slightly less of a jerk.
Keep in mind that very few jerks go through the process of dejerkification. Most remain jerks forever.
He and I were 2 feet apart. All 4 kids were splashing and screaming in the pool. Both wives were in the house fixing snacks for the kids... He was loud, but I was the only one within earshot.
I am afraid if he took that stance against you being armed on your own property, the friendship is most likely damaged and they won’t be back over (at least until they are sure you will abide by their conditions). I hope it isn’t a ruined friendship but people need to understand “your house, your rules”. If it were his pool and you were the guest, I could see him asking you to not bring a firearm there if they do not like them.
My house, my rules. GTFO if you don't like it. If someone actually deigns to yell at me in/at my home, they'll be lucky to leave the premises under their own power.
“Cheerio mate. If you need some TP to clean out your vagina before leaving, there’s a powder room right over there for the ladies”.
Lite beer OMG there is the problem. No wonder the guy was worried about your weapon.
@Alabamacoastie good handling of the rude guest this time. What are you going to do next time now that he knows?
I feel you just delayed the inevitable.
Tough call and you were on the spot and thought about your kids and I totally get why you are questioning what you did.
It's possible he could have raised a stink and grabbed his girls saying "let's go, he has a gun", perhaps? What would have that done to his kids or maybe yours? Would your girls be upset with you? Probably.
Very possible that if he does let his kids come back over, he may ask his wife to wear the balls of the two and ask your wife to make sure you're disarmed before coming over or ask you or the Mrs on arrival.
Have you thought about that and what you would / will say?
Just my thoughts on what happen and next thing that could happen on a future visit.
Hard to say and some that doesn't like or know anything about firearms (usually both...) tend to be the over dramatic demanding types. Like we all know someone or the types that are out there.
Easy for me, no kids and no pool...Ha...
So I'd show him the nearest door to exit if he didn't like it.
Seriously though, nothing splits people like guns, politics, and religion etc...Would he have strong opinions if he saw a Trump sign /sticker, BLM / Antifa sign, or a Robert E Lee portrait in your house? Or could he overlook those things if they bothered him to use the pool?
If it were me (and clearly, it is not), I would have a conversation with this guy. If he is adamant in his beliefs and requests of you, I would wish him well and ask him to never darken your door again.
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exactly. I will cut my damn arm off if someone gives me an ultimatum that I can’t. Lol.
Since you asked, here’s my two cents.
Everyone has to make up their own mind about what they will and will not put up with in their own home.
While I understand that some may feel that keeping the peace, for the sake of the kids and wives, is the most important thing I don’t.
For me, the most important thing in my home is the protection of my family and I don’t give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about it. In the long run my wife and child will appreciate my resolve far more than me bending over to some vagina who is scared of guns.
For most of us the urge to avoid confrontation, especially when it comes out of the blue like that, is strong. But like I said we each have to decide what we’ll put up with and what is best for our own families. Personally I think the BS that douche is teaching his kids could be detrimental for my own kids. So if they lose the friends so be it.
It’s funny, even my liberal neighbors know I carry every day even though I’ve never said anything. Just something in my demeanor I guess. If you don’t want My gun around your kids then build your own damn pool.
Should of hid it in his vagina. Doubt he would notice and it would still be within reach.
You did good for your family this one time to be a nice guy with the neighbor.
My wife and I have done many many many kids friend's parents meet ups. Some good, some not so good. It can be awkward to feel alienated from the get go but I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it. We pretty much know after a half hour if we’ll be hanging out again.
Our verdict is often admitting we’re antisocial or everyone is a bunch of liberal crazies!! Lol
We can Always count on old friends that are trustworthy and understanding.
Upon considerable reflection, I have a couple new ideas. One is how you might have better responded in the moment...
The other is how best to respond tomorrow morning. Call the local BLM franchise and report him as having the middle names John Wayne and say he was swimming in your pool in Confederate Flag trunks.
When they start egging his house, he’ll come running to you and your arms cache.
Say it isn't so!
The reason you had the weapon on you is most likely the reason many of us do the same...so you’ll have it RFN, should the need arise.
I commend you for “keeping the peace”; I’m certain that took a lot.
Now, personally, I do my best not to intentionally show my ass, but there are those occasions where I may take a bit of pleasure in it and I believe that would have been one of them. I don’t even like the government telling me what I can/can’t do, much less, some goody-two shoes neighbor that has a stick up his ass regarding firearms.
I wouldn’t have raised my voice or ranted, but leaning in and calmly telling the dude that it’s your property, your house, your pool and if he doesn’t like it, he can either gtfo and take his ass back to the house or sit there and suffer in silence would have been warranted.
"that's strange, I read that more and more women were getting interested in self defense"
I can’t decide if you should be proactive, reaching out to him to explain that you have hundreds of hours training and years experience and that you’re uncomfortable not carrying, or if you just wait and if he brings it up again say that your boss requires that you be armed at all times and you can’t say more about it and would appreciate his discretion in the neighborhood.
No, this is one thing you should not do. This would justify his 'feelings' which is 'why does anyone need a gun'.
Get with it. Time to start teaching.
Suppose it depends on his priorities. If it’s to resolve his issue then it works, if it’s to convert the guy then it doesn’t.
Perhaps take it as a learning opportunity on getting busted and outed by an intemperate busybody while supposedly carrying concealed. It happened to me once at work when a twentysomething pointed at my right front pocket and asked: "Is that a GUN?" Me: No it's my Journal. Twentysomething: **Blank Stare**. Me: "A diary. I write stuff in it". Twentysomething: "Oh."
He said, "IS THAT A WEAPON? "
I said, "Huh?"
He yelled, "IS THAT A WEAPON? I DON'T WANT THAT AROUND MY CHILDREN! PUT IT AWAY OR WE ARE LEAVING! "
...I walked into my house and disarmed...
I came back outside and everything went back to normal. We continued talking. He said, "Thank You. "
I said, "You're welcome. By the way, have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?"
I agree, but words should never cause us to use force.
It's almost as tough as Assimilation for Yankees and other From-Aways.
After sleeping on it it hit me ... what did your wife say when you told her about SoyBoy ... you did tell her?
Thinking about it the 2 women might need to discuss this as well without little ears ... or other big ears ... around. If SoyBoy’s wife wants to still be friends and is respectful things have a different dynamic but if she’s like SoyBoy at the sight of the printing of a gun in a holster in a closed cargo pant pocket (not like open on your hip or just laying on the coffee table) ... you and your wife along with your kids now have a possible invasive species coming into your home. What you do should be decided by you and your wife carefully ... it sucks for the girls to be caught in the middle but sometimes you gotta break some eggs ...
Remember were in this 2A thing for the long haul.
Bama's home an pool are remote, the chances of a threat are much lower that a more populated area. Winning this guy over will probably bring along a like-minded friend or two, add to that their children, etc.
Kill him with kindness, and carry IWB around him in the meantime.
Bama, do you have a suppressed 22 to get him started?
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