Does this look canted to you?

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I recently purchased a Vortex Crossfire II 6-18x44 AO scope new in box from Gander Mountain, they actually had the same price as Optics Planet, etc. and I brought it home. I mounted it on an also new Savage FVSR and everything seemed OK, until I upgraded the stock on the savage. I didn't remove the scope from the receiver when replacing the stock, but didn't bump it on anything either. Anyway I get it back out to the range and now I notice the reticle appears to be canted. I think the action sits in this stock a little differently than it did in the original cheap plastic stock but the reticle still looks a bit canted compared to the turret cap. What do you think? Would this drive you crazy or am I just seeing things or splitting hairs?

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have you leveled the scope? The reticle looks canted to the cap but the cap looks slightly canted also so it may an illusion.
 
have you leveled the scope? The reticle looks canted to the cap but the cap looks slightly canted also so it may an illusion.
Not with an actual level. I've got some bubble levels on order, should have them on Tuesday. It's very hard to say whether the scope is level in relation to the rifle in this pic, what you're seeing most of all is the difference in angle of the pic (or camera) to the elevation turret, there is no good reference on the rifle itself to use. It looks to me like the reticle is canted in relation to the turret though. Not sure what else could cause that.
 
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Hang a plumb bob from a tree branch and use it to level the reticle then you will have an easier time seeing if the scope is canted

Pardon the intrusion, but rather than start a new thread...

So I'm also installing a scope (Nikon rimfire) on an FVSR that I have in a Boyd' Tacticool stock.
Put the rifle in a rest. EGW 20 MOA rail was already installed on rifle.
Install the lower half of the rings getting eye relief about where I want it.
Put a level across the top of the front ring (actually the top of the bottom half of the front ring).
Use the feet on the rest to level the rifle. Here is where it goes sideways...
Put the level across the top of the bottom half of the rear ring and it's not quite level, I think this indicates that something is slightly twisted.
Adjusting the torque on the rings (screws that hold it to the rail) gets it closer, but not right. I decide to call it a night.

In the morning I'll use the same little Sterrett level to check the rail at various points, but assuming that it is level what should I do? Replace the rings? Lap the rings? Shim the rings? Something else?

In case it isn't obvious, in order to use the plumb line to get the scope oriented correctly the rifle has to first be oriented correctly.

Thanks for your thoughts
Jim
 
Switch the rings and see if the problem follows. I suspect a manufacturing variation of the rings and not a critical issue. I mean the scope is round and the flat is not an alignment surface. Do you spend time making sure the gap between the ring cap and bottom are equal on all four sides too?? OK, I do, but that's beside the point. :p
 
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your thinking too much into it...

it doesnt matter if the split in the rings are level, what matters is the reticle being level so your scope tracks properly... i actially have a scope mount that the split in the rings is on a 45 degree....

level the reticle so that when you use the left - right adjustment it actually goes left to right and not upper left to lower right... or your up down so it doesnt go up and right or down and left....

i hope i said that so it makes sense

Maybe, I'm well known for overthinking things, let me try this way.
If you level the scope with the rifle canted, then when you go to shoot the rifle will be vertical and the scope will be canted. Isn't it best to get both square one time? Assuming yes, the point I used to measure if the rifle is level is the tops of the bottom halves of the rings, is this a poor choice.

The issue with the split in the rings is not that they aren't level, it's that one is and the other is not, indicating that either the rings aren't identical or the rail is twisted slightly. In either case the rings aren't going to apply even pressure to the scope tube. I assume that this matters and am asking about the best way to address it.
 
Did you switch the rings to see if the problem followed the ring?
Did you try putting the level across the top of the mount, what you're calling the rail, to see if it's level or the same amount of levelness, at front and rear?

We're saying that surface you are measuring is not a reliable indicator. It is not a critical mating surface. The rings are likely not identical. The top half of the ring isn't going to touch the bottom half anyway or at least shouldn't. The important mating surface is where the scope beds into the rings. Pressure on the scope is dependent on the tightening of the screws of the top ring piece on to the bottom ring piece around the round scope tube. Pressure comes from both sides.

Otherwise, you've got at twisted receiver, not to be confused with a Twisted Sister and requires proper disposal. Bring it to me for processing.

What brand rings are they?
 
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Did you switch the rings to see if the problem followed the ring?
Did you try putting the level across the top of the mount, what you're calling the rail, to see if it's level or the same amount of levelness, at front and rear?

We're saying that surface you are measuring is not a reliable indicator. It is not a critical mating surface. The rings are likely not identical. The top half of the ring isn't going to touch the bottom half anyway or at least shouldn't. The important mating surface is where the scope beds into the rings. Pressure on the scope is dependent on the tightening of the screws of the top ring piece on to the bottom ring piece around the round scope tube. Pressure comes from both sides.

Otherwise, you've got at twisted receiver, not to be confused with a Twisted Sister and requires proper disposal. Bring it to me for processing.

What brand rings are they?

Sadly I'm 1,500 miles from the rifle, so all on hold until next weekend.

Setup is a picatinny rail screwed to the receiver, and then rings mounted to the rail.

I'll check the rail next. Rings are either Burris or Leupold.
 
Even if the rail on the receiver isn't level it really isn't important

Technically you could put your rifle on a 45 degree cant and as long as the reticle is level it will track correctly
Only if you hold your rifle canted at the same angle when you shoot?
 
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