Enforcement of 2A sanctuary - Missouri edition

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Also from the Captains Journal, which mostly copies the link at the top of the blog: https://www.captainsjournal.com/202...ies-sheriff-wants-to-play-nice-with-the-feds/ or long link to the news reporting site.

GREENVILLE — Months after Greenville County Council passed an ordinance proclaiming the county a Second Amendment sanctuary, the issue came back before the council Jan. 20 as frustrated gun owners said the law hadn’t gone far enough in its punishments.

That ordinance was championed by the same group and brought to the council by Councilman Steve Shaw, a gun law attorney. Shaw modified the ordinance to remove the criminal penalties and focus solely on financial implications after Attorney General Alan Wilson’s office issued an opinion on a similar ordinance considered in Aiken County.

The attorney general’s opinion issued in August 2021 said the state legislature “covers the field” on the regulation of firearms and his office expected attempts by counties to regulate firearms would not be upheld if challenged in court.
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Once again, I think Herschel has the right idea:
Questions posed, so questions answered.

Will it hold up in court? It doesn’t matter. Anyone who asks that question doesn’t understand what’s happening here. You don’t ask. You don’t go to court. You enforce the statute. Screw the judges.

Who enforces it? The Sheriff enforces it. If it’s one of his own, he should have trained them better. He has to put his own deputy in jail. Period.

Are those punishments severe enough? No.

Is it really possible that a deputy or city cop “unknowingly” goes against the ordinance? No, not unless you’re a kindergartener. This should be easy enough. Find out who’s on the other end of the phone. If it’s an agent of the FedGov, threaten to arrest them if they come into your county.
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Local, local, local, that is the key and as with the other one I posted this morning about the town in AL using policing for profit, people need to get rid of this mentality that you need permission from a higher govt. for everything.
 
Catfish said:
This...

is heading down the road to authoritarianism.
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The Last Outlaw said:
The Feds are eventually gonna bite back on this, I don't see that going well for anyone involved.
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Keep in mind that the system of "law" is nothing more than an obfuscation of the concept of rule of the strong man, by saying "we will all play be these here agreed upon rules and in exchange we won't engage in combat over disagreements." Somehow we've become very divorced from the enumerated powers of the federal govt. and allowed crap to stand as long as some other federal weenie in a black dress blesses it. Furthermore it is entire possible, and occurs frequently, where jurisdictions are shopped to get the desired result made as a proclamation. In short, the whole system is broken, has lost legitimacy, and the social contract isn't binding anymore.

The interesting thing here is that the local govt. are standing up and saying, "Not only do we not recognize you're authority in this matter, we believe you to be acting in the wrong, and we no longer have faith anymore in the systems that were put in place to resolve these sorts of issue. Consequently, if you attempt to enforce these practices in our territory we will not only, not assist you, we will actively thwart you." Back to the strong man argument.

In many ways, I see this as a mirror reflection of what is happening in society as a whole; which is a break down and delegitimization of govt., especially at the upper levels.
 
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The Last Outlaw said:
Good luck with that,man.
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Good luck with what? Telling Uncle to go fork himself?

The only reason policing has worked at all is because the population has largely been compliant. How ideologically committed to the cause are the enforcers? Quite frankly, if they are ideologically committed to infringing on people then we have a real problem. I bet that they will be little to no different than cops we've seen at any other level and that is when the population starts fighting back with the intent to kill they'll throw in the towel, cave, and go home because it ain't worth it.
 
noway2 said:
Good luck with what? Telling Uncle to go fork himself?

The only reason policing has worked at all is because the population has largely been compliant. How ideologically committed to the cause are the enforcers? Quite frankly, if they are ideologically committed to infringing on people then we have a real problem. I bet that they will be little to no different than cops we've seen at any other level and that is when the population starts fighting back with the intent to kill they'll throw in the towel, cave, and go home because it ain't worth it.
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Should have quoted him, I was talking to the guy with the Patriot meme
 
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