For all of you that have been feeling a little down lately

Tailhunter said:
Alright you bunch of emotional misfits, its Friday.
Enough of the crying and holding hands and such.

The South rules and yankees drool.
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And you completely missed my contest. You could have been a contender.
 
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Thomas Miles Garrett of Hertford and Bertie counties, N.C., (my great great great uncle) was a member of the University of North Carolina class of 1851; lawyer in Windsor, N.C.; and colonel in the 5th North Carolina Regiment during the Civil War. His personal diary of his time in Chapel Hill is kept in Wilson Library on the campus at UNC.

Before the Antietam Campaign:
A lawyer in Murfreesboro, North Carolina before the War, he was commissioned Captain of Company F, Fifth Infantry on 16 May 1861. He was wounded and captured at Williamsburg, Virginia in May 1862 and released in August.

In the Antietam Campaign:
He assumed command of the Regiment on September 14, at South Mountain, when Colonel McRae was given command of the Brigade as Gen Garland was killed. He was wounded again - in the foot - in action at Sharpsburg.

The remainder of the War:
He was promoted to Colonel on 16 January 1863, and was wounded for the third time at Chancellorsville in May. Following that battle he was mentioned for his bravery by Gen Rodes who said he "had behaved most gallantly on the first day, and was, unfortunately, wounded by one of our own men after the close of that day's fight".

He was killed in action at Spottsylvania Courthouse on 12 May 1864.


The war is long over, the south lost the 2nd American Revolution.....but I am not forgetting the history of our brave soldiers.
 
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My great grandmom's older brother (twenty years her senior). Those who know me will recognize the name.

Col. John Ashford
Birth: Sep. 6, 1837
Sampson County, North Carolina
Death: Jan. 6, 1889
Clinton, Sampson County, North Carolina
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Civil War Record:
1861-1862: Captain Co D 38th NC Infantry
1862-1863: Major 38th NC Infantry Regiment
1862: Wounded in leg, 2nd battle Bull Run
1863-1864: Lt Colonel 38th NC Infantry Regiment
1863: Wounded at Gettysburg
1864-1865: Colonel of NC 38th Infantry Regiment
1864: Wounded during Petersburg Campaign
1865: Present at Appomattox surrender.

Mortally wounded in boiler explosion at Clinton Soap Factory in 1889, with both his sons who also died.

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Via Ann Barnhartt, who also recently wrote:
To recoil before an enemy, or to keep silence when from all sides such clamors are raised against truth, is the part of a man either devoid of character or who entertains doubt as to the truth of what he professes to believe.

 
I needed to hear the music on this thread this week.....my only comment is that I am personally tired of Yankee's and often liberals moving to NC and especially the Triangle area and demand we change the way we do things. Stay up North if you like the way you do things. Do not move here if you are going to try and change everything......

Example: A buddy has a farm, and the guy that owned the land next to him sold it and they built a very high end neighborhood on it. (750k + houses). He has received more complaints and a few visits from the cops because of tractor noise......It is a farm....and a whole lot more for us shooting on the opposite side of the property (safe backstops and such).....drove through the neighborhood and 90% of the license plates where from up North.....
 
motoman247 said:
I needed to hear the music on this thread this week.....my only comment is that I am personally tired of Yankee's and often liberals moving to NC and especially the Triangle area and demand we change the way we do things. Stay up North if you like the way you do things. Do not move here if you are going to try and change everything......

Example: A buddy has a farm, and the guy that owned the land next to him sold it and they built a very high end neighborhood on it. (750k + houses). He has received more complaints and a few visits from the cops because of tractor noise......It is a farm....and a whole lot more for us shooting on the opposite side of the property (safe backstops and such).....drove through the neighborhood and 90% of the license plates where from up North.....
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The heck of it is that $750K is not even high end around here any more. High end is $1 MM and up. The price of new homes here is shocking.
 
fieldgrade said:
The heck of it is that $750K is not even high end around here any more. High end is $1 MM and up. The price of new homes here is shocking.
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Passed a new neighborhood on Glenwood and it said "New homes from the 1.4's!)......you couldn't pay me to live off that road

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So, I am from North of the Mason-Dixon line. I moved here with my family because Uncle Sugar told me so. That may change in a little less than two years when I retire, or it may not.

Upon moving here, I noticed that there is more government intrusion, higher taxes, and more liberals (born in the South "by the grace of God", so they say) than many other states, including where I am from "up North".

I generally leave this kind of stuff alone because I chalk it up to unsubstantiated pride, valor by proxy, false bravado, and a disproportionate mouth-to-ass capability ratio.

I am wondering what it is that makes "The South" superior? Help educate a "burn in Hell" Yankee on what makes it better here than above the Mason-Dixon, please.
 
Mattyb said:
So, I am from North of the Mason-Dixon line. I moved here with my family because Uncle Sugar told me so. That may change in a little less than two years when I retire, or it may not.

Upon moving here, I noticed that there is more government intrusion, higher taxes, and more liberals (born in the South "by the grace of God", so they say) than many other states, including where I am from "up North".

I generally leave this kind of stuff alone because I chalk it up to unsubstantiated pride, valor by proxy, false bravado, and a disproportionate mouth-to-ass capability ratio.

I am wondering what it is that makes "The South" superior? Help educate a "burn in Hell" Yankee on what makes it better here than above the Mason-Dixon, please.
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If we have to explain it, you won't understand.

Oh, and Delta is ready when you are.
 
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Mattyb said:
"Delta"? I don't follow...?
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Too young clearly.

I don't know where you live, but southerners aren't exactly flocking to the northeast, while north easterners are flocking here, and have been for years.
 
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Mattyb said:
So, I am from North of the Mason-Dixon line. I moved here with my family because Uncle Sugar told me so. That may change in a little less than two years when I retire, or it may not.

Upon moving here, I noticed that there is more government intrusion, higher taxes, and more liberals (born in the South "by the grace of God", so they say) than many other states, including where I am from "up North".

I generally leave this kind of stuff alone because I chalk it up to unsubstantiated pride, valor by proxy, false bravado, and a disproportionate mouth-to-ass capability ratio.

I am wondering what it is that makes "The South" superior? Help educate a "burn in Hell" Yankee on what makes it better here than above the Mason-Dixon, please.
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Gun laws is something we can agree on right? Cost of living is another, cheaper down here. Gas prices (not so much in NC)

Personal opinion (I have lived 1.5 years outside of Philly for my dad's job in elementary school and visited friends I met in college in their hometowns up north)

What's better in South: weather (screw snow), there aren't people that take pride in being dicks to each other (massholes, is one of my friends favorite words to describe himself), less people (not so much in Raleigh anymore), other stupid laws (looking at you NYC, jersey and mass) people are truly nicer here, despite every thing going on recently this past week everyone in the public no matter their race has been friendly, not so much up north.

The only good thing about the north imo is some of the beer and food.

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motoman247 said:
Gun laws is something we can agree on right? Cost of living is another, cheaper down here. Gas prices (not so much in NC)

Personal opinion (I have lived 1.5 years outside of Philly for my dad's job in elementary school and visited friends I met in college in their hometowns up north)

What's better in South: weather (screw snow), there aren't people that take pride in being dicks to each other (massholes, is one of my friends favorite words to describe himself), less people (not so much in Raleigh anymore), other stupid laws (looking at you NYC, jersey and mass) people are truly nicer here, despite every thing going on recently this past week everyone in the public no matter their race has been friendly, not so much up north.

The only good thing about the north imo is some of the beer and food.

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OK, now we are getting somewhere. Thank you for actually responding instead of "get out"(I had to look up the comment from @fieldgrade ) or "You wouldn't get it if we have to explain it".

I COULD agree on many of your points, though it seems you are making all references to places like NY, Philly, NJ... Comparing gun laws in NC to some place like NY or NJ is like Ted Bundy saying "At least I didn't eat people like Dahmer". "Up North" is a whole lot more than the liberal NE vs. the liberal South.

Also, cost of living is about a wash, as SC and NC rank 25 and 26 as far as most affordable places according to US News and World Report.
 
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fieldgrade said:
Too young clearly.

I don't know where you live, but southerners aren't exactly flocking to the northeast, while north easterners are flocking here, and have been for years.
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They are also flocking to DC, but that place is the armpit of Satan. They are also filling up North Dakota, Washington, Colorado, and Utah, all faster than NC.
 
Mattyb said:
OK, now we are getting somewhere. Thank you for actually responding instead of "get out"(I had to look up the comment from @fieldgrade ) or "You wouldn't get it if we have to explain it".
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Re-read your original post.

... I chalk it up to unsubstantiated pride, valor by proxy, false bravado, and a disproportionate mouth-to-ass capability ratio.
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If you think you can walk into a Carolina gun forum, and into a thread specifically reminiscing about the south during enormous cultural upheaval and news events demonizing the south, and "compliment us" like that, then you really would be much happier from whence you came.
 
fieldgrade said:
Re-read your original post.




If you think you can walk into a Carolina gun forum, and into a thread specifically reminiscing about the south during enormous cultural upheaval and news events demonizing the south, and "compliment us" like that, then you really would be much happier from whence you came.
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Fair enough. I didn't word that well. I had the whole "burn in hell Yankee" thing in my head, and that is mostly directed at comments like that. I did not, however, separate or specifically address parts of my post, and I should have.
Point taken, and conceded.
 
Mattyb said:
OK, now we are getting somewhere. Thank you for actually responding instead of "get out"(I had to look up the comment from @fieldgrade ) or "You wouldn't get it if we have to explain it".

I COULD agree on many of your points, though it seems you are making all references to places like NY, Philly, NJ... Comparing gun laws in NC to some place like NY or NJ is like Ted Bundy saying "At least I didn't eat people like Dahmer". "Up North" is a whole lot more than the liberal NE vs. the liberal South.
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Well you said give some reasons, we are on a firearms form, so gun laws is the most obvious answer that we COULD agree on.
I never said I hated everyone from up north, I just really dislike people 99.999999999% of the time from New England, but I do have a few friends from there that aren't total dicks, they have their moments, as I am sure I do as well. When people down here think of up North that is what he think of majority of the time, New England. Since this thread has a lot to do with the confederacy you have to realize what states where even in the Union back then, nothing out west for the most part, people do not think of those as northern states, even though they are obviously above the mason-dixon line. People sometimes forget Ohio, Mich, IL, Iowa, and Minn, where in the Union, people from those states in my opinion are a lot more "calm" about stuff then people from New England.

When I said "other stupid laws" I meant like the drink size thing in NYC, not being able to pump your gas in NJ, etc. As I am sure southern states have dumb laws (ahemmmmm pistol purchase permit) there seems to be a lot of legislating stupidity away in the North from where I sit. But I am no expert.


And there is no need for the "COULD" when talking about agreeing with me, you know I am right. ;)
 
fieldgrade said:
If you think you can walk into a Carolina gun forum, and into a thread specifically reminiscing about the south during enormous cultural upheaval and news events demonizing the south, and "compliment us" like that, then you really would be much happier from whence you came.
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I'm beginning to understand why I've never heard the phrase 'northern hospitality'.
 
Mattyb said:
They are also flocking to DC, but that place is the armpit of Satan. They are also filling up North Dakota, Washington, Colorado, and Utah, all faster than NC.
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But they used to skip us on I95 and go to Florida......i don't know if they ran out of gas here and could figure out how to use a gas pump (nj joke, calm down) so they decided to stay.
 
motoman247 said:
Well you said give some reasons, we are on a firearms form, so gun laws is the most obvious answer that we COULD agree on.
I never said I hated everyone from up north, I just really dislike people 99.999999999% of the time from New England, but I do have a few friends from there that aren't total dicks, they have their moments, as I am sure I do as well. When people down here think of up North that is what he think of majority of the time, New England. Since this thread has a lot to do with the confederacy you have to realize what states where even in the Union back then, nothing out west for the most part, people do not think of those as northern states, even though they are obviously above the mason-dixon line. People sometimes forget Ohio, Mich, IL, Iowa, and Minn, where in the Union, people from those states in my opinion are a lot more "calm" about stuff then people from New England.

When I said "other stupid laws" I meant like the drink size thing in NYC, not being able to pump your gas in NJ, etc. As I am sure southern states have dumb laws (ahemmmmm pistol purchase permit) there seems to be a lot of legislating stupidity away in the North from where I sit. But I am no expert.


And there is no need for the "COULD" when talking about agreeing with me, you know I am right. ;)
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What I meant is that I would agree that "the South" is better in probably all of those respects to places like Taxachusettes, NY, NJ, ect... However, there is more to "up north" than the North East/New England. The folks here are pretty smart guys, they know that.
 
Mattyb said:
What I meant is that I would agree that "the South" is better in probably all of those respects to places like Taxachusettes, NY, NJ, ect... However, there is more to "up north" than the North East/New England. The folks here are pretty smart guys, they know that.
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Yea we do, but again we are on a firearms form, what group of states hurts the one thing we love and enjoy and is our common ground, Being gun ownership and shooting, that is the northern states and commiefornia, so when you do bring up the north in any sense, the knee jerk reaction is always negative from a group of people on a forum like this, and imo rightfully so, but not necessarily the best belief/reaction to have..

And I think you don't want to admit us southerners are better shooters, that is what this whole thing boils down too [emoji6]

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motoman247 said:
Yea we do, but again we are on a firearms form, what group of states hurts the one thing we love and enjoy and is our common ground, Being gun ownership and shooting, that is the northern states and commiefornia, so when you do bring up the north in any sense, the knee jerk reaction is always negative from a group of people on a forum like this, and imo rightfully so, but not necessarily the best belief/reaction to have..

And I think you don't want to admit us southerners are better shooters, that is what this whole thing boils down too [emoji6]

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My mistake was reading through the whole thread, seeing the comment that was something like "all Yankees can burn in hell"(paraphrased, I don't remember exactly), and when I started to respond, most of what I said ended up responding to that. That was my mistake, as I responded to @fieldgrade .

This is not the first thread that has evolved/devolved into blaming many the ills of this state (NC) on people from "up north". Being from "up there"(OH), and adding the fact that I am more self-reliant and liberty minded than most NC natives that I personally know, I carried baggage into this thread that I shouldn't have, and misdirected my response into a verbal death blossom.

My bad.

@motoman247, I have a small range on my property near Sanford (100yds). I suggest that we settle who is the better shooter once and for all, loser buys a 12 pack of beer for the winner (I only drink the good stuff, Busch Ice).
 
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