For those of you who know me.

I don't think anyone is showing apathy, especially towards the spouse and children. The poster has a criminal background and his home was targeted. I am not a detective but I would guess that someone from his past has found him and sending a message. No honor among thieves, you know, that kind of stuff. His wife and children just happen to be in the way.

It's apathy by degree. I highly suspect that if your home were to be shot up, you wouldn't want folks first reaction to be to assume you'd caused it.

Furthermore, it's not a terribly broad accusation, I've only got like two people in mind...
 
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It's apathy by degree. I highly suspect that if your home were to be shot up, you wouldn't want folks first reaction to be to assume you'd caused it.

To be fair, we are over 48 hours into this. And thinking his background may have had some reason for it is'nt apathy, it is reason. Its also often what some of the first things the police would ask. "Can you list anyone who may wish you harm?" Sadly, being a felon means there may be a list of people in his past who may. We have some information on his charges, and what he was in for, but we dont know the people involved, the third parties, anything like that. But wondering these things isn't apathy. It isnt dismissing it, nor even saying he deserved it in some way because of his past issues.
 
To be fair, we are over 48 hours into this. And thinking his background may have had some reason for it is'nt apathy, it is reason. Its also often what some of the first things the police would ask. "Can you list anyone who may wish you harm?" Sadly, being a felon means there may be a list of people in his past who may. We have some information on his charges, and what he was in for, but we dont know the people involved, the third parties, anything like that. But wondering these things isn't apathy. It isnt dismissing it, nor even saying he deserved it in some way because of his past issues.

I posted an edit clarifying the scope of my statements, apparently I'm accusing absolutely everyone...
 
I didn't speak for anyone other than myself, I posted my perspective on the behavior of others, that's what the "parties who seem to be less than sympathetic" phrase was all about. If you'd do more reading and less projecting, you'd see that.

You're right that I don't know anyone's feelings but my own, I quite agree with you. However, as I previously pointed out, I was expressly stating my own opinion or interpretation of the conversation, not absolute statements of known fact.


I don't think it's very forward to state my perception of others' reactions, and that's all I did. If the shoe doesn't fit, nobody's compelled to wear it. I'm fine with being wrong in what I presumed, I've been wrong before.


You first, I'll be right behind you.
No where do you say opinion. so yeah I stated exactly what you said ........

And yeah you are wrong !
 
I don't know what crimes they assume your spouse and children/dependents committed as well, but it seems evident to me that they feel your sins are enough to justify their apathy across the board.

I happen not to agree with them, whatever your trespasses, the apathy towards yourself and your family is not deserved.

I do not agree, either.

The world is full of *ssholes and idiots, and to be quite honest it's a breath of fresh air to come across people who have screwed up and turned themselves around in an honest effort to improve themselves.

It's not as if all of us here haven't screwed up in some way, sometimes fairly major. Most of us just manage it in ways which don't end up with a criminal record for whatever reasons.

I will assume only that the OP has the background he states here, vague though it may be. It's not my business to know the details, and I'm not going to ask. He's an adult and as far as I'm concerned he'll give out what he feels is necessary to understand what he's going through and no more. Just like the rest of us.

The important thing is that right now he and his family are OK, and that he's taking measures to further ensure their safety and well being. To that end, we should provide whatever support and assistance we, as a community on this forum, ALWAYS seem to provide to those in need. Whether that be thoughts & prayers, sound advice, or whatever.
 
Still no comment on whether or not your kids may be hanging out with a crowd that might do something like this? If they aren't after you or your wife, there has to be another reason that your home was targeted.
I am also curious, but it’s probably wise of him not to share too much as he’s already posted up enough info that he’s readily identifiable. I can only assume that he is working on this, it’s not like anyone is gonna fess up right away to dissing some local gangst on insta.
 
Still no comment on whether or not your kids may be hanging out with a crowd that might do something like this? If they aren't after you or your wife, there has to be another reason that your home was targeted.

I agree it is targeted for some reason. Unless it was a wrong address and even then there was a reason. I could be as simple as your the only X on the block or your wife pulled a Karen moment at the drive through at Mc.Donald's. Most people especially gang bangers, don't send a message to people just for fun. Why would bangers want all that attention from the popo unless they had a beef with someone.
 
Glad you and your family wasn't injured or worse OP.
I don't know why this happened but I do have an opinion on what you should do, and that is get your family to a new and distant address.
What the man of the family is supposed to do is protect and provide for his family, in my opinion.
And if you can't defend with firearms defend them in a way that you can, move them to a safer location.

For the rest of us, John 8:7 "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Bravo Juliet Bravo over and out.
 
Still no comment on whether or not your kids may be hanging out with a crowd that might do something like this? If they aren't after you or your wife, there has to be another reason that your home was targeted.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes?
 
Glad you and your family wasn't injured or worse OP.
I don't know why this happened but I do have an opinion on what you should do, and that is get your family to a new and distant address.
What the man of the family is supposed to do is protect and provide for his family, in my opinion.
And if you can't defend with firearms defend them in a way that you can, move them to a safer location.

For the rest of us, John 8:7 "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Bravo Juliet Bravo over and out.
The wheels are already in motion, we have kicked every bush, turned over every stone. Sunday morning...home shot, by Friday, maybe someplace to start gearing up for. Finding a home, whether it's buying, or renting...just don't happen overnight. Believe me, I wish it would at this current point in time.
 
Yah know,

I've loosely followed this thread.

I guess it's human nature to be negative, etc, etc.....

I don't know what legal did, but he had a "New Address" for awhile.

So, the underlying condemning mindset of he had it coming to him, I believe to be in error.

That position seems to be easy and neutrally positive.

So, the following is submitted for consideration for all to review;

“We Get All Hyped Up. We Do a Drive-by.”

He chats amiably about what he and his friends do for fun. “We get really drunk,” he says. “We get all hyped up, and we do a drive-by or something like that.”

https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/we-get-all-hyped-up-we-do-a-drive-by/






Richard Jewell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

We exonerate the innocent through DNA testing and reform the criminal justice system to prevent future injustice.

https://www.innocenceproject.org/

 
Any updates on suspects or moving away from the area?
We're putting the house on the market, and will probably have a place to rent by Friday. As far as suspects...I haven't heard anything. They seem to think it wasn't directed towards us, possibly someone ducking behind our vehicles on the run from someone else. Looking at the placement of the shots, I could see that. Who knows? Whether direct, or indirect, I don't care. It's time to go.
 
Yah know,

I've loosely followed this thread.

I guess it's human nature to be negative, etc, etc.....

I don't know what legal did, but he had a "New Address" for awhile.

So, the underlying condemning mindset of he had it coming to him, I believe to be in error.

That position seems to be easy and neutrally positive.

So, the following is submitted for consideration for all to review;

“We Get All Hyped Up. We Do a Drive-by.”

He chats amiably about what he and his friends do for fun. “We get really drunk,” he says. “We get all hyped up, and we do a drive-by or something like that.”

https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/we-get-all-hyped-up-we-do-a-drive-by/






Richard Jewell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

We exonerate the innocent through DNA testing and reform the criminal justice system to prevent future injustice.

https://www.innocenceproject.org/


Absolutely just plain Lucky to be alive. Sons of Bitches!!!!!!!
 
Someone once said, “If you are going someplace that you feel the particular need to take a gun, maybe you shouldn’t go.”

Your attention should be spent on planning your next address.
I have been asked dozens of times...If you were leaving here and Knew that you would need a firearm before you returned what would you take??? Easy...I wouldn't go.
 
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