"Frank burton" old muzzleloader
- Thread starter Packman
- Start date
- Replies 8
- Views 1,180
Tim
Checked Out
Staff member
2A Bourbon Hound 2024
2A Bourbon Hound OG
Charter Life Member
Benefactor
Vendor
Multi-Factor Enabled
Check out this link from AmericanLongRifles.com
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=12718.msg137247#msg137247
From that link, it appears Mr. Burton was active in the late 60s-70s. He also appears to have numbered his guns. Do you see any other engraving?
It certainly is a beautiful piece! Put a flint in it and fire away!
As to value, i know my dad sells the ones he has made for $8-1,000.
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=12718.msg137247#msg137247
From that link, it appears Mr. Burton was active in the late 60s-70s. He also appears to have numbered his guns. Do you see any other engraving?
It certainly is a beautiful piece! Put a flint in it and fire away!
As to value, i know my dad sells the ones he has made for $8-1,000.
Last edited:
Tim
Checked Out
Staff member
2A Bourbon Hound 2024
2A Bourbon Hound OG
Charter Life Member
Benefactor
Vendor
Multi-Factor Enabled
Making a safe inference from that link posted above, your's is likely somewhere around 1973-5.
If you have calipers, measure the bore to find out the caliber. Depending on the make of the barrel, it's not likely to be spot on a certain caliber. They will generally measure a bit oversized to account for the patching material used with a round lead ball.
A couple questions...the "tang" that comes back from the barrel on top of the stock near the lock....does that appear to be a part of the barrel, or does it appear that the barrel and that tang are separate pieces?
I don't see any pins holding the barrel to the foreshock...are there any?
I haven't seen a trigger like that...if you cock it, does the trigger "move back"? Is there a 1/2 cock or any kind of set trigger action? Or does it just cock and fire? Hold the hammer (cock) if you dry fire, you don't want to drop on an empty pan or without a flint in place.
I'm not sure I know what the tang is. I also do not see any pins. There is 2 cocks on the hammer. A kind of half cock and then the full on cock that when the trigger is pulled the hammer falls. There is a wooden type stick that I assumed was use to load the powder and stuff in the bore but I can't seem to get it to come free and don't want to mess it up trying
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Tim
Checked Out
Staff member
2A Bourbon Hound 2024
2A Bourbon Hound OG
Charter Life Member
Benefactor
Vendor
Multi-Factor Enabled
The "stick" is a "ram rod" and is indeed used to push all the stuff down the barrel. DON'T use any type of oil or other lubricant to try and free it; that'll just make the wood swell more.
I'd use a vise grip/channel lock or similar to grab the end of the ram rod and pull. Have a partner hold the rifle while you apply steady pull STRAIGHT back. You don't want to bend the rod and risk it breaking off.
The tang is the piece of narrow metal insetted into the wood on top of the stock, above the trigger. It has a large slotted screw and is visible in the last picture you posted.
If you're ever out this way, I'd be tickled to help you give it a good cleaning, insert a flint and see how she fires!
I'd use a vise grip/channel lock or similar to grab the end of the ram rod and pull. Have a partner hold the rifle while you apply steady pull STRAIGHT back. You don't want to bend the rod and risk it breaking off.
The tang is the piece of narrow metal insetted into the wood on top of the stock, above the trigger. It has a large slotted screw and is visible in the last picture you posted.
If you're ever out this way, I'd be tickled to help you give it a good cleaning, insert a flint and see how she fires!
Thanks for all of your input! Believe me if I get out your way I will certainly be in touch! I am rather fluent in firearms but this gun had me stumped. Will probably end up on the wall or over the mantle soon.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk