Freeze Drying

I want one some kinda bad. Lot of food can be put up with that that doesn’t have to be canned or frozen
 
I've got a buddy that want's one in a bad way. Cool idea. I didn't even know there was a home option until we talked about it.
 
I watch these folks, They got one and Love it. I want one.

 
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If you get one make sure you cough up the bucks for an oil free unit.
 
I almost pulled the trigger on one of these but just couldn't justify it. This is a good review.



what’s stopping anyone from getting it?

harvest right does a layaway till it’s 50% paid for then ships it to you and does interest free financing over 12 months for the rest.

i’ve had mine for a year now. got the medium one.

let’s put it this way. the machine has already pod for itself in the last year.

it’s the size of a mini fridge, maybe a bit bigger. the pump can be a little loud but it quiets down

do it.

worth

every

single

penny.

the oilless pump has had some issues, not sure if they fixed it.

the $35 jug of black gold oil has officially went through its first usage. still has plenty of life to it.
 
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what’s stopping anyone from getting it?

harvest right does a layaway till it’s 50% paid for then ships it to you and does interest free financing over 12 months for the rest.

i’ve had mine for a year now. got the medium one.

let’s put it this way. the machine has already pod for itself in the last year.

it’s the size of a mini fridge, maybe a bit bigger. the pump can be a little loud but it quiets down

do it.

worth

every

single

penny.

the oilless pump has had some issues, not sure if they fixed it.

the $35 jug of black gold oil has officially went through its first usage. still has plenty of life to it.
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fair point.

they’ll let you pay any amount you want for the layaway plan. won’t ship it till you hit 50%. took me a year to pay the minimum amount before they shipped me mine. i make my last payment this month and she’ll be mine

call them up and talk with them. decent folks
 
What is the worst tasting thing after you freeze dried?
For me, it's potatoes, but that could also be partially because I got sick after eating them and sometimes when you eat something when you're coming down with something that makes you sick, you lose the taste for it even if it isn't related.

Potatoes take on a very different taste and texture. I tried re-hydrating them, which usually takes much less water than you'd think, and then frying them. They soaked up an unbelievable amount of oil and while they did brown up it was more like burning than browning and didn't have that fried potato taste.

We've predominantly used it to preserve produce, mostly from the garden. One of the first things we tried was cabbage, which worked out OK. I made fried cabbage with it and it tasted about 75% as good as fresh cabbage, but definitely had a slightly different flavor and lost some of the crunch.

Freeze drying works for a lot of vegetables, and it's been my experience that you get better results if you blanch them in hot water first. Green beans being a prime example where otherwise they're tough, almost like leather, even if you cook them extensively. Putting them in something in a crock pot to slow cook works pretty well, though, except for the potatoes which either didn't hydrate properly and were solid in the center or turned to mush and acted like a thickener.

Most fruits work pretty well too. Unlike dehydrating, they tend to swell up and get a cotton candy like texture. Apples and pears are delicious. Bananas are popular, but my wife who likes them dehydrated didn't like them freeze dried, though a friend of ours loves them that way.

Other vegetables, like onions, peppers, etc come out fine and work well to be added to any sort of dish. The onions especially may give more of the flavor rather than being like pieces of onion.

Several factors will influence how long something takes to freeze dry, including the ambient temperature, whether your starting with something at room temperature or frozen, moisture content etc. You will want to time the drying process so that it finishes at a time you can remove it. You can't really over dry it, but you don't want the cycle to finish at 3am so you may need to add time once it gets close to finishing.

I would recommend the oil free pump. A friend of ours also has a freeze dryer and when they ordered theirs the oil free pumps were back ordered and Harvest Right sent them an oil one for free ($$) while they waited on the oil free pump. He said it was a real pain to strain the oil after every batch.

The appliance is pretty loud, and we keep ours in the garage. As I said, ambient temperature plays a roll and it was adding several extra hours until we put a window AC unit in the garage which made a real difference.
 
Ok ya'll have me interested. How are these holding up long term? Aftermarket parts/repair a thing or are these just expensive disposable units?

You have to strain the oil after every use?
 
He said it was a real pain to strain the oil after every batch.

You're going to have to elaborate on this. I have repaired a few freezers dryers that were used in labs that were used to freeze dry ocean floor samples. They all used oil vacuum pumps and did not require straining or changing the oil after a run.

The refrigerated chamber is supposed to act as a cold trap and condense and freeze any moisture or VOCs that get pulled out of the products. The few that I worked on were single stage refrigeration systems and would achieve -30 to -40C.

There is another type of freeze dryer used in research call a lyophilyzer. It is the same thing but the cold trap uses a 2 stage system and gets down below -60C. They use oiled vacuum pumps also.
 
You're going to have to elaborate on this.
I don't have the oil model, but a friend does. He said it was a pain. Here's a YT video on the process. It appears that the oil does get some moisture and (food) contaminants that should be filtered out.

 
Thats taking something simple and making it complicated. Changing oil in a vacuum pump doesn't have to be a chore.

I admit, thats a lot of water and junk in the oil. I'm not sure how the particles get into the pump. A simple online filter will stop the particles.

The pump should be controlled by the temp of the cold trap. The trap needs to be at temp before the pump turns on. If the trap gets overloaded with moisture, and the temp rises the pump needs to be off.

The best way to determine if you need to change your oil is to use a vacuum gauge hooked directly to the pump. Those little JB pumps will make 50 microns (mTorr) when new. Change the oil when the pump can no longer achieve below 200 microns.
 
finished some green beans. about to start corn

18 hours total

also, there is somewhere online that is recommend on a better filter and system, (come to find out it’s a spin on transmission filter) and i have been using that since about batch 3, currently on batch 20.

i just pop open the valve while it’s still warm, and let it run straight in to the funnel that is connected to the filter. filter sits in a bowl. it runs in to said bowl, then pour back in to container.

takes 3 minutes, which during that time i’m getting everything up ready to package up. most of the times i let it filter out while i’m packaging and defrost the machine.
 

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Can save a few grand and DIY one

 
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