Gerber Flatiron...... The sharpest tool I've ever held....

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Picked one of these up from @thrillhill

It is essentially a folding frame lock hollow ground straight razor.

It came acceptably sharp but 45 mins on the stones and I'm honestly a little afraid of it.

You know you want one.. go see Bill.

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I'm not putting it anywhere near MY neck.....
 
So just a self defense tool or something else? Box cutter?


It's a knife. You cut stuff with it. Straight blades aren't unusual. Most times they are referred to as "wharncliffe" style blades.

The hollow grind simply allows folks who have the skill to make them significantly sharper than most folks are accustomed to.
 
Pardon us CZ users Bill. We only use vegan sourced knives with blunted tips to open the earth friendly kale chips while sipping our free trade approved chai decaf latte with soy foam.


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Ok, DB's why a straight razor instead of a knife with a point? Any practical reason or application other than it looks cool and I need another knife? Is it to open mean blister packs on Glock mags or cut the tongues off of mean snapping turtles?
 
Ok, DB's why a straight razor instead of a knife with a point? Any practical reason or application other than it looks cool and I need another knife? Is it to open mean blister packs on Glock mags or cut the tongues off of mean snapping turtles?


You are getting distracted by the straight razor thing. It's not a razor. It's a knife.

We've been using straight blades for time immemorial. Where I grew up the majority of all the Old Timer and Case Knives that were multi-blade had a straight blade option.

This is not a new thing. Look up Spyderco ROC. Extrema Ratio T-Razor, Kizer Sheepdog, all kinds of variants out there.

This is just Gerber's variation on a theme. They did a good job on this rendition at a good price point. Very good price point. And the way they did that is by using shitty Chinese stainless steel like most knives at that price point. But thanks to the size of the blade, coupled with the hollow grind, you can overcome the crappy steel and make it truly scary sharp.

It cuts things. It cuts things very efficiently as Tom said. Because you can make it sharper than a curved blade with a point. You cut all the same things you do with a pointy knife, but you do it better, and safer, because it is sharper.

In general, outside of some defensive scenarios, pointy is a poor substitute for sharpness. With a sharp straight you don't have to make that compromise.
The rare time we need our tips, we should probably be using another tool, a la prying stuck brass (or prying anything anywhere period) from our gunked up .22 chamber.

Cutting boxes? Cutting into small game to gain purchase so you can pull the hide off? Ultra sharp generally makes point moot. Then when sharp really matters, like cutting rope or seat belt in an emergency, you are carrying a blade that is sharper than any pointy curve ever could be. That is why we are sometimes willing to sacrifice the convenience points have, to carry sharp.

Exclusively carrying pointy blades was not the norm, but rather a by-product of automation and sharpening being lost as a skill amongst men in lieu of consumer access to cheap semi-disposable implements.

DB
 
How much are these? Looks awesome
 
Blades with a shape like that go back even to the Viking Seax.

Also, sometimes people just like the way they look. I know I do. Id buy one, but I am busy saving money for another CZ that Ill probably not shoot nearly as much as I should but will fill a hole in my life that was left when I found out Chdamn doesn't really love me the way he should.
 
I might have to get one of these, I was looking at some cheapo Chinese ones to see if I like the shape but this has to cut better.
 
Another fan of straight blades here. I carried a kershaw 'needs work' for years. It as a straight cutting edge, and the spine of the blade curves down to meet it, so you still get a point. One of the most useful knives I've ever had, and the straight blade made it cut very well.

I really like the looks of this Gerber. I'll look to pick one up in the near future.
 
I like this, thanks for posting it. I've been sharpening my knives for decades, but never been satisfied with my sharpening stones. Can someone recommend a good stone?
 
I've had really good results with my Lansky sharpener stick block, it's what I use for 95% of sharpening chores.

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It only does 20 and 25 degree edges though. So if you want other angles you'll need something like their more involved systems.
 
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I like a straight edge in the shop, but otherwise find that having a little belly is good for most everyday tasks. This might be a good addition to the working knife drawer.
 
I like this, thanks for posting it. I've been sharpening my knives for decades, but never been satisfied with my sharpening stones. Can someone recommend a good stone?
Amazon has decent, inexpensive waterstones that work well. You can pick up 600/1000/3000/6000/8000 for around 60 bucks all in probably.
 
I have a couple culinary obsession branded ones from them.
 
Blades with a shape like that go back even to the Viking Seax.

Also, sometimes people just like the way they look. I know I do. Id buy one, but I am busy saving money for another CZ that Ill probably not shoot nearly as much as I should but will fill a hole in my life that was left when I found out Chdamn doesn't really love me the way he should.

Which CZ you saving up for?
 
Scorpion if I can


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Sweet little SBR/pistol.
I held one at WS gun show a while back, felt so good. But my heart was set on a MP5 style
 
Why not? I use straight razors to shave with quite often. Very comfortable and close shave. Only takes a bit of practice.

Sarcasm doesn't translate over the internet apparently. Twas a joke.... ;)
 
I like the straight blade.
I use a pocket knife everyday in my job. All the time. Without one I'm gonna struggle. Not for any one specific purpose, but as a utility tool. Stripping wire..big wire, boxes..tons of stuff in boxes, sharpening pencils, cutting an apple, turning screws.
Razor knives are too wimpy, break the blade.
You'd think I would use a real nice $300 piece, but no. I'm hard on them, and I've lost 3 in attics. So I usually venture towards Kershaw, Gerber, and I like the old Buck cross-lock that they don't make anymore. Real smooth opener.
The pointy tip has practically zero use for me. And much of the time it's a hindrance as it can slice things in those boxes you don't wanna slice, since you have to bury the blade deep enough to get to the meaty cutting part of it. Gotta be careful.
When I go pointy I favor the Tanto blade. At least that style has more of a point that is fairly functional.

@rantingredneck thanks for the post. This Gerber looks ideal for what I do.
 
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@rantingredneck could you tell me how thick this knife is? No-one has that spec.
And how good is the pocket clip in your opinion? Think it would stay put during an active day?
 
I like this, thanks for posting it. I've been sharpening my knives for decades, but never been satisfied with my sharpening stones. Can someone recommend a good stone?
It depends on what kind of sharp you're looking for. If you want shaving sharp, with a mirror finish, one of the best/easiest ways to get it is with a piece of plate glass and self sticking abrasive papers. Do a search on "Scarry Sharp" method of sharpening.
Run up the grit scale, finishing off with .5 micron paper.
 
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@rantingredneck could you tell me how thick this knife is? No-one has that spec.
And how good is the pocket clip in your opinion? Think it would stay put during an active day?

It is a shade over 1/8" thick at the spine. It's hollow ground to a thin/fine edge.

The pocket clip is very sturdy, shorter and wider than most. If anything i would say it is almost too secure in that it takes pretty intentional effort to clip and unclip.
 
Is the edge of the blade sharpened to an angle that is set by the spine (like a true straight razor).
In other words, in a true straight razor, to sharpen, you simply lay the spine on your sharpening stone, then bring the cutting edge into contact with the stone and perform the sharpening stroke with both in contact with the stone, making it incredibly simple to maintain the edge perfectly. (Although to get a straight razor truly shaving sharp, as in being able to split a hanging hair, it takes practice and some skill, but even a drunk monkey can get a better, or at least sharper, edge than 99.99% of people who sharpen "free hand" on a stone can achieve.)
 
Nice knife. Straight blades are the best. They sharpen and hone well. The straight blade I made on my leatherman is handy.

As far as self defense goes that should be able to get the insides on the outside with no problem. Who said knifes have to be pointy?
 
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I like this, thanks for posting it. I've been sharpening my knives for decades, but never been satisfied with my sharpening stones. Can someone recommend a good stone?
Whet rock then hone with a 000 razor hone. Mirror finish on the edge.
 
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