Glock 19 adjustable rear sight.

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I know I said I didn't want to start messing about with my Glock, but I'm thinking about an adjustable rear sight.

We all know my rear sight on any gun has to be adjusted far to the right for my oddball eyes, but I think I need up and down adjustment on this particular gun as well.

Any pros and cons and experiences y'all have had, I'd be glad to hear about them. Let me have the wisdom of y'alls many, many years of shooting/messing about with guns! Thanks.

(PS I'm not going to spend a ton of money on it, if this is the way to go, so don't give me links to any $250 stuff, please.)
 
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I saw those in my quickie research, thanks, though. Perfect price for me! LoL.

Have you put any on your Glocks? (Do you have Glocks?)

I don’t own a Glock yet, but it is high enough on the list that I research Glock things.
 
I don’t own a Glock yet, but it is high enough on the list that I research Glock things.
You remember when you guys took me to the range and I tried a G19 last summer? It's funny how things turn out, but I got it now, baby!
What one are you thinking of?
 
G17. Likely gen 4. I don’t have a need for a G19 size frame, and I haven’t been a fan of the pocket sized Glocks.
 
G17. Likely gen 4. I don’t have a need for a G19 size frame, and I haven’t been a fan of the pocket sized Glocks.
I liked the g17 when I was doing my due diligence before buying a few weeks ago, but the 19 was a better fit and I shot it better....which isn't saying a lot....maybe adjustable sight will help! LoL.
 
Dawson adjustable rear. Never look back. You can get it paired with a fiber front for around $100. Worth every penny.
 
Why not just drift your rear sight and learn to adjust your hold for the front sight? Different brands of ammo and different bullet weights are going to have different points of impact.
 
@Millie , I put adjustable sights on my G21 and my G30sf. In retrospect, I think I could have done without them. I shoot my Gen 5 G19 well enough with the OEM sights (which I think are a slight improvement over previous gens) that I haven't yet considered changing them.

I do agree with @Geezer . Maybe work with that solution first, then re-evaluate based on the results?
 
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Why not just drift your rear sight and learn to adjust your hold for the front sight? Different brands of ammo and different bullet weights are going to have different points of impact.
Because I think the "up and down" needs adjusting too, on this particular gun. But I'll try it. (I guess I can do this myself?) So far I'm using one brand and weight of ammo consistently.

I can always put the original one back on if the adjustable one isn't working for me, I assume?
 
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@Millie , I put adjustable sights on my G21 and my G30sf. In retrospect, I think I could have done without them. I shoot my Gen 5 G19 well enough with the OEM sights (which I think are a slight improvement over previous gens) that I haven't yet considered changing them.

I do agree with @Geezer . Maybe work with that solution first, then re-evaluate based on the results?
I'll try that first and see what happens, but I'm thinking it might not be enough. We shall see.
 
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Does the gun shoot low left?
I shoot mostly left and high, and just high, with some low center mixed in for fun! I used to shoot low left a LOT, but I think I got that dealt with, with the other guns. With the Glock I seem to be all over the place, making me think I need help dialing in the up/down component of things, as well as the left/right. (I'm sure there are appropriate terms for this, but you know what I mean, right?) My usual "put the front sight behind the right post on rear sight" isn't working with this gun. I'll keep at it, though. This is the most difficult gun I've had to deal with.
 
With the Glock I seem to be all over the place,
It's her trigger control....not the sights. I've spent a lot of time with her and she shoots the 1911 platform the best...all in the trigger. I still believe if you start shooting with a Glock you can transition to other platforms easily But if you start with something with a clean nice trigger the transition is Difficult. I now have 2 Glocks set up in .22 to start new shooters on.
 
Every sight is adjustable with the right tools...

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It's her trigger control....not the sights. I've spent a lot of time with her and she shoots the 1911 platform the best...all in the trigger. I still believe if you start shooting with a Glock you can transition to other platforms easily But if you start with something with a clean nice trigger the transition is Difficult. I now have 2 Glocks set up in .22 to start new shooters on.
Hey! You said my trigger control was a lot better than it was the last time I was there!

And is the Glock trigger so bad, really? I realize I don't know enough yet to tell much about it, but it feels fine to me....LOL.

PS Do you consider the P238 as a 1911-ish gun? Maybe I need to go back to that one.....
 
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I love that guy!

And amazingly enough, I have just such an implement right out there in my tool-kit!! lol.

Clarkson is the best, and them firing him is the reason Top Gear UK is total trash now.

Besides, it's a Glock, hitting it with a hammer won't hurt it.
 
And, @Millie , if you’re all over the place it’s not the sights. If all were in one place but not at point of aim, then it may be the sights.
I'm thinking the reason they're all over the place is because I can't find the "sweet spot" for the front sight every time I press the trigger.

I can sometimes mix in a few shots in the center of a target, but then I can't find that perfect relationship between the front sight and the exact spot behind/beside the right rear post every time.

If I can get the rear sight adjusted up/down and right/left, then I can use the sights as God intended, and as Tony (my former instructor) taught me at our first lesson all those many months ago: fitting the front post/dot exactly in between the rear posts/dots, with equal daylight on each side, and level across the top.

I wish I could show you exactly how I have to do things...it's frustrating trying to explain in typing...lol....next time I'm down that way, maybe you'll be there too, and I can show you.

The only gun I have that's anywhere close is the 1911 .45, it only needs a tiny tweak, maybe none, still working that out.
 
Hey! You said my trigger control was a lot better than it was the last time I was there!
If you’re looking at a scale of 1-10...and start at a 1, then a 3 is whole lot better. :p

(Not saying that’s your rating...but you can get a whole lot better at some things and still have a lot of work to do)
 
If you’re looking at a scale of 1-10...and start at a 1, then a 3 is whole lot better. :p

(Not saying that’s your rating...but you can get a whole lot better at some things and still have a lot of work to do)
(sigh) My rating probably IS 3....so good news, I am a whole lot better...LOL.

(...and I have a lotta work to do.)
 
I'm thinking the reason they're all over the place is because I can't find the "sweet spot" for the front sight every time I press the trigger.

I can sometimes mix in a few shots in the center of a target, but then I can't find that perfect relationship between the front sight and the exact spot behind/beside the right rear post every time.

If I can get the rear sight adjusted up/down and right/left, then I can use the sights as God intended, and as Tony (my former instructor) taught me at our first lesson all those many months ago: fitting the front post/dot exactly in between the rear posts/dots, with equal daylight on each side, and level across the top.

I wish I could show you exactly how I have to do things...it's frustrating trying to explain in typing...lol....next time I'm down that way, maybe you'll be there too, and I can show you.

The only gun I have that's anywhere close is the 1911 .45, it only needs a tiny tweak, maybe none, still working that out.

What sights are you currently sportin' on your 19?
 
Can you do the coin drill? If not, work on dry fire practice to improve trigger control. Sights can't fix that. One thing at a time...
 
Can you do the coin drill? If not, work on dry fire practice to improve trigger control. Sights can't fix that. One thing at a time...
If that's putting a dime on the slide and keeping it from falling off, then I can sometimes and can't other times. lol. I work on my dry fire every day, as Billy said to, and I'm also working on getting to the magazine release button with one hand, and getting my original grip back by the time my left hand is coming up with my other magazine. LoL.

(This won't make any sense to you unless you've seen how I reload....it's pretty bad, but at the time I started doing it that way, I was far from doing a match and so had no clue. Once Bert at Coharie got a look at how I did my first one, he was flabbergasted, I'm pretty sure! He was nice about it, though, and as soon as I did it, I realized I had to find another way. So I'm working on a lot of stuff right now.)
 
It seems to me that you may have a few too many irons in the fire. Seeing as how the Glock is your carry gun maybe you need to put everything else in the safe and shoot only the Glock...... It's gonna be hard for you to find consistency with any of them at this point when you're jumping back and forth. When everything about shooting the Glock is second nature then you can move on to other platforms.
 
If that's putting a dime on the slide and keeping it from falling off, then I can sometimes and can't other times. lol. I work on my dry fire every day, as Billy said to, and I'm also working on getting to the magazine release button with one hand, and getting my original grip back by the time my left hand is coming up with my other magazine. LoL.

(This won't make any sense to you unless you've seen how I reload....it's pretty bad, but at the time I started doing it that way, I was far from doing a match and so had no clue. Once Bert at Coharie got a look at how I did my first one, he was flabbergasted, I'm pretty sure! He was nice about it, though, and as soon as I did it, I realized I had to find another way. So I'm working on a lot of stuff right now.)

Don't get discouraged. Pistol skills are a life-long pursuit. No matter what your skill level there's always something you can work on.
 
Just the ones that were on it when it came out of the box.

My 19 currently has a “bastard” sight system, but it has worked well for me.

For the rear sight, I have a Trijicon and for the front, I use an XS “big dot”...

http://www.xssights.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=990818&CAT=8322

The front sight stands out and is easy/quick to pick up, especially in low light/low visibility conditions.

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I will second the comments already made about dry fire practice. Imo, it is absolutely critical to maintaining / improving skills with a handgun and it costs nothing but time.

I’m no expert nor am I a trainer, but this is what works for me and typically what I spend most of my dry fire practice doing...

I use a 1” adhesive orange target dot and place it on a wall 15’ away, at eye level. I draw, bring the pistol up and just as soon as I see that dot perched right above my front sight, I fire. I’ll usually get in between 2-3 hours practice per week, doing only this drill.

If you do this drill, focus on the target dot and the target dot only. Don’t “look” for your sights...just keep your eyes laser-focused on that dot...draw...and fire...

Where’s your sights? I’d just about bet they’re right on target.

Practice, practice, practice. I believe you’re going to find after doing this drill enough, you’ll be able to face the target, close your eyes, draw and right before you squeeze the trigger, open your eyes...and you’ll see nothing but orange beyond your front sight.
 
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It seems to me that you may have a few too many irons in the fire. Seeing as how the Glock is your carry gun maybe you need to put everything else in the safe and shoot only the Glock...... It's gonna be hard for you to find consistency with any of them at this point when you're jumping back and forth. When everything about shooting the Glock is second nature then you can move on to other platforms.
I'd normally agree, but it's too late about other platforms, I'm pretty sure!

I began with the p238, then got a 1911 in 9mm, then a 1911 in .45, and now I have the Glock. In the mix was a revolver, really early on.
I'm pretty good with the 1911s. I especially did well with the .45 just now at the range. (I've been shooting regularly since about September.)

My second carry gun was the p238 (first was the KelTec .380), then the 1911 9mm was carried for a few weeks. I got the Glock because I knew it would be indestructible, having broken my Sig and my RIA. If I could have shot any Glocks at all well in September, I'd probably never have ended up with the Sig, and may never have ventured into the 1911 rabbit hole! LOL. Like Billy says, I think going from a 1911 to a Glock is harder than the reverse. I'm not doing horribly with the G19, just not as well as I'd like to be. I'll put up today's targets in a bit.
 
Don't get discouraged. Pistol skills are a life-long pursuit. No matter what your skill level there's always something you can work on.
If I had started shooting a lot when I was 20, I might be pretty good by now, but I really got a late start.....not a lot of time left to improve, but I'll try as long as I can stand up and hold a gun up...lol.
 
My 19 currently has a “bastard” sight system, but it has worked well for me.

For the rear sight, I have a Trijicon and for the front, I use an XS “big dot”...

http://www.xssights.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=990818&CAT=8322

The front sight stands out and is easy/quick to pick up, especially in low light/low visibility conditions.

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I will second the comments already made about dry fire practice. Imo, it is absolutely critical to maintaining / improving skills with a handgun and it costs nothing but time.

I’m no expert nor am I a trainer, but this is what works for me and typically what I spend most of my dry fire practice doing...

I use a 1” adhesive orange target dot and place it on a wall 15’ away, at eye level. I draw, bring the pistol up and just as soon as I see that dot perched right above my front sight, I fire. I’ll usually get in between 2-3 hours practice per week, doing only this drill.

If you do this drill, focus on the target dot and the target dot only. Don’t “look” for your sights...just keep your eyes laser-focused on that dot...draw...and fire...

Where’s your sights? I’d just about bet they’re right on target.

Practice, practice, practice. I believe you’re going to find after doing this drill enough, you’ll be able to face the target, close your eyes, draw and right before you squeeze the trigger, open your eyes...and you’ll see nothing but orange beyond your front sight.
I'm going to give your drill a try!
 
The last time Millie was here I shot targets with center hits from inside 7 yards while looking at her, not even looking at the gun or the target. She can verify this. I have stressed how important PRESENTATION is. We have guns here with NO sights that are perfectly fine inside 7. She has improved greatly and I think the world of her. She has a propensity to answer instruction with " yeah But". If she is Shown she does better than telling her. That is why I shot the targets without looking at them. There have been other members from CFF that I have had shooting targets while not looking down range. I had them turn their heads and look at me. I think Ikarus and hi wife both did this. There were many others. SVT150 was one also.
Sights are imperative for me outside of 7 yards. We have Millions of years of hard wiring to overcome, when that sabre tooth tiger is about to eat you, you will probably be looking at Him.
Again, her problem is not sights. As Larry just said if it was all the shots would be Somewhere together. They are not. She shoots the little Sig and the 1911 better because she can't "get ahead" of the trigger. It breaks before she can push it around like she does on the G 19. When it goes "SPOING" it's all over the place. This can be overcome but it will be difficult making the transition. All that will cure it is Trigger Time. Hence...the Glocks in .22. It took me about 5,000 rounds of .22 and I still occasionally Make it go bang instead of Letting it go bang.
Oh well...head down...plodding along. When she comes back here it Will be .22 caliber Glock for her. She can and must get past the "spoing".
 
The last time Millie was here I shot targets with center hits from inside 7 yards while looking at her, not even looking at the gun or the target. She can verify this. I have stressed how important PRESENTATION is. We have guns here with NO sights that are perfectly fine inside 7. She has improved greatly and I think the world of her. She has a propensity to answer instruction with " yeah But". If she is Shown she does better than telling her. That is why I shot the targets without looking at them. There have been other members from CFF that I have had shooting targets while not looking down range. I had them turn their heads and look at me. I think Ikarus and hi wife both did this. There were many others. SVT150 was one also.
Sights are imperative for me outside of 7 yards. We have Millions of years of hard wiring to overcome, when that sabre tooth tiger is about to eat you, you will probably be looking at Him.
Again, her problem is not sights. As Larry just said if it was all the shots would be Somewhere together. They are not. She shoots the little Sig and the 1911 better because she can't "get ahead" of the trigger. It breaks before she can push it around like she does on the G 19. When it goes "SPOING" it's all over the place. This can be overcome but it will be difficult making the transition. All that will cure it is Trigger Time. Hence...the Glocks in .22. It took me about 5,000 rounds of .22 and I still occasionally Make it go bang instead of Letting it go bang.
Oh well...head down...plodding along. When she comes back here it Will be .22 caliber Glock for her. She can and must get past the "spoing".
Yep, you have to show me stuff, or it won't get into my head. You always show me cool stuff, too!

I'm glad you think I can get past the Glock issues, it gives me hope!

Dang those pesky but sexy 1911s.....lol.

PS As soon as I can, I'm getting one of those .22 kits for my Glock, then I too can go nuts on the cheaper .22 rounds and shoot much more! Yay!
 
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The last time Millie was here I shot targets with center hits from inside 7 yards while looking at her, not even looking at the gun or the target. She can verify this. I have stressed how important PRESENTATION is. We have guns here with NO sights that are perfectly fine inside 7. She has improved greatly and I think the world of her. She has a propensity to answer instruction with " yeah But". If she is Shown she does better than telling her. That is why I shot the targets without looking at them. There have been other members from CFF that I have had shooting targets while not looking down range. I had them turn their heads and look at me. I think Ikarus and hi wife both did this. There were many others. SVT150 was one also.
Sights are imperative for me outside of 7 yards. We have Millions of years of hard wiring to overcome, when that sabre tooth tiger is about to eat you, you will probably be looking at Him.
Again, her problem is not sights. As Larry just said if it was all the shots would be Somewhere together. They are not. She shoots the little Sig and the 1911 better because she can't "get ahead" of the trigger. It breaks before she can push it around like she does on the G 19. When it goes "SPOING" it's all over the place. This can be overcome but it will be difficult making the transition. All that will cure it is Trigger Time. Hence...the Glocks in .22. It took me about 5,000 rounds of .22 and I still occasionally Make it go bang instead of Letting it go bang.
Oh well...head down...plodding along. When she comes back here it Will be .22 caliber Glock for her. She can and must get past the "spoing".
I tried to ask in a message about the "spoing" and if you can explain exactly what you meant, but I'm blocked/banned!! Dang. I figure you got tired of my many questions about every little thing! LoL.
 
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