GRNC gets WRAL coverage

I'm a long time GRNC member, and I'm very active following up by phoning and writing the appropriate pols as needed. I was at The Pit with the other GRNC folks and Sean when Gabby came to town. I'm pretty serious about my 2A rights and with GRNC or without it, I'll continue to be. It's part of who I am.

That having been said, the attitudes of Marc and Sean suck.

If you can't take the push and tug of a public forum (of your SUPPORTERS) after a particularly embarassing drubbing at the hands of the media, then youve got no business being lobbyists . If you had taken the time to instantiate your self in the forum community you'd have been able to handle the ribbing without the condescending attitudes to those who contribute to the sustanance of your organization. Why DON'T you have a 'forum rep' to get the news out to your members and potential members?

I'll think long and hand before I cut the next check.
 
I can tell I/ we are not needed or wanted by the GRNC.
HE/ they are the big dogs who are the only folks that stand for the 2nd!

Well they can take my name/ email off any and all their list. Any emails will be sent back with a F* you!
 
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So he said he needed to be a prick type personality to get his job done. I can see that.

Did he address the two trolls from earlier in this thread? Can anyone claim to represent GRNC and start trolling away? I have one of their shirts. Do I get Official GRNC Rep Trolling Privileges now?
 
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As for the "why don't you have a forum rep?" I can answer that.

We do. We simply have lives to lead. We aren't the NRA with paid people, we are all volunteers here, which means we must work too. Then you take into account family time, sleep, etc, we have full plates.

I try to be on various forums, but again, my plate varies. then I had that lightning storm kill my internet for a week, that stung.
 
So...TL:DR we should all shut up because without the great GRNC led by the valiant and hard charging Paul Valone we would have zero rights in regards to firearms. We should all cease immediately in speaking ill of GRNC or their tactics because they are amazing.


But...in truth...a bully that claims he is out for you is still just a bully.

In fact, these responses have been so horrid and I'll thought out that I am not thinking they are actually written by anti-gun people pretending to be GRNC members in order to cause division.

If not, and you truly are GRNC, then please understand that this forum is not comprised of a bunch of mouth breathing morons who will bow to your greatness just because you happen to support our common right to self defense. We are not mindless liberal sheep who will baahhh mindlessly and follow the herd just because the shepherd cracks his whip the loudest.

I ask that you rethink your strategy here and realize that being a pompous and arrogant ass to your enemies may gain you traction. But doing so to your allies will not profit you here.


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(At the GRNC headquarters)

"Hey man...some folks on the gun forum disagree with what we did and called Paul arrogant and pompous."

"Well...lets have Paul write an extremely arrogant and pompous email response to prove how him being pompous and arrogant is good."


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"But...in truth...a bully that claims he is out for you is still just a bully."


You may not have meant it this way, but the way I read that reminds me of those "we will keep the moral high ground and write in Ronald Reagan on the ballot because everyone running is worse". :/

If that's not what you mean, ok great. But the simple truth is that we don't need Ned Starks, we need season two Tyrion's. :D

I am fine and dandy with Paul's demeanor if he gets results we want on the hill in Raleigh.
 
I am fine and dandy with Paul's demeanor if he gets results we want on the hill in Raleigh.

I suspect yours is a sparse and lonely camp.

Well I am instructed to post this from President Valone....

1. As much as this forum is a worthwhile sounding board for the gun rights community, I am not a member because, with a day job, 40-60 hours/wk doing GRNC stuff, and a radio show (and occasionally trying to spend a little time with my family), I just don’t have time. As I have often told people who ask why GRNC doesn’t have meetings, I can either preach to the choir, or I can go out and kick butt. I choose the latter.

Paul Valone isn't the only person with a full time job, a full time cause and little to no time for family. No one here gets to the range often enough, for long enough. Some have obligations to volunteer organizations that fight for our unalienable Rights.

No one is asked anyone to preach to the choir - all that's being asked is to let the choir do some singing rather than Fire and Brimstone barking from the pulpit.

5. That I’m “arrogant.” Maybe I am. In fact, maybe I’m not just a prick, but an extraordinary prick. When I first started GRNC in ’95, everybody on *our* side of the issue took great pains to tell me, “That’s not how we do things here.” I responded, “Clearly not. That’s why you lose.”

It takes a special kind of chutzpah to step into a committee room, knowing that everybody there hates your guts, but that they will do your bidding anyway. Why? Because they fear you. Indeed, I regularly quip that my goal is to be reviled in all the right places.

There is a reason our credo is “Armatissimi e liberissimi” (most armed, most free). Not only does it express our operating philosophy, it is quoted from Niccolo Machiavelli, the inventor of modern power politics – the philosopher who also said, “t is much safer to be feared than loved because ...love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.” Translated, if you would like a new touchy-feely GRNC, step right up and relieve me of the burden. But expect to get hosed at every opportunity, because among “the baseness of men”, politicians are the basest of all.

So you're Machiavelli? A prince? Someone entrenched and in power who's trying to keep it?

Politics is politics - but understand this: you can't treat your constituency like you treat the opposition and expect to have a grateful following. Further, these tactics maybe weren't working 23 years ago, but I would suggest they aren't working now for those you claim to represent. Unless, of course, this is more about you.

Weren't you the one talking about people in power wanting to stay in power? How corrupting that can be?

Feared and despised is not the same thing. Around here, there's none of the first but you guys are working overtime on the second.

6. If you remain convinced that being sweet to politicians will get you more than grassroots mobilization, go volunteer for the NRA. They use access-based lobbyists who do precisely that (and get screwed for it).

Many people here would just as soon tar and feather politicians, string them up in the Liberty Tree and piss on their corspe.

Don't bring that silly "I guess since you take offense to me being an ass you wanna schmooze the politicians" nonsense in here.

We haven't been rubbing elbows with those people for 23 years.
 
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"But...in truth...a bully that claims he is out for you is still just a bully."


You may not have meant it this way, but the way I read that reminds me of those "we will keep the moral high ground and write in Ronald Reagan on the ballot because everyone running is worse". :/

If that's not what you mean, ok great. But the simple truth is that we don't need Ned Starks, we need season two Tyrion's. :D

I am fine and dandy with Paul's demeanor if he gets results we want on the hill in Raleigh.
Does he talk to and treat the volunteers like he does the general public?
 
If that's the case. I will not be volunteering at the ws show next week. Count me out.!!!!!!!!!÷
 
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At first I honestly thought it was that the message had just got lost in translation back and forth. Now I've come to the conclusion that grnc needs one of two (actually both) things since they obviously can't be reading or bothered to see the constructive intent that most of us have brought up.

1) They need to appoint someone that can speak to the people that are on the same side in a MUCH better tone because treating us like the folks that are against us is NOT working in their or our favor.

2) Treat the people that donate their time and money like you actually care about them instead of just crapping on them and telling them to sack the eff up..

This thread, at least to me has pointed out they don't care about either, and speaking down to us in a condescending way is the best way to insure we lose more people fighting for our rights and divides us further from working together.

If they are reading this and would like to have that person I'm sure we can find someone to volunteer for that position. The ones used thus far including the emails from Paul have done a spectacular job treating us based on the "rules for radicals".
 
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Well I am instructed to post this from President Valone....

Will have to post it in sections as it's long...

As much as this forum is a worthwhile sounding board for the gun rights community, I am not a member because, with a day job, 40-60 hours/wk doing GRNC stuff, and a radio show (and occasionally trying to spend a little time with my family), I just don’t have time. As I have often told people who ask why GRNC doesn’t have meetings, I can either preach to the choir, or I can go out and kick butt. I choose the latter.

This forum is a hell of a lot more than just a "sounding board"...if I had to use a word to describe it, I can't think of one that paints a picture any better than the word "family". Yeah, we get on here and vent, but it goes much further than talk. We help each other where help is needed, we shoot together, we train together, eat together and work together. Just like Yogi ain't your average bear, this ain't your average gun forum.

It takes a special kind of chutzpah to step into a committee room, knowing that everybody there hates your guts, but that they will do your bidding anyway. Why? Because they fear you. Indeed, I regularly quip that my goal is to be reviled in all the right places.

Yeah? Well, you're not on the Island of Misfit Toys all alone. Believe me...many of our elected leaders know some of us by name because of our communication with them, whether it's electronic, by phone or face-to-face and we're shy neither about the RTKBA nor voicing what we believe is its original intent to our elected leaders..so, like you, we're right popular.

Clearly, some here still don’t “get” the value of ridicule, which the RINOs delivered in spades. I can assure you that pols *dread* the prospect of Squish showing up at one of their campaign events wearing their name on his name tag. But since one of my folks was kind enough to reiterate Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals,” see if #5 below looks familiar.

Yeah, I heard/read about Alinsky's work, but I prefer the rules for radicals that predates his by almost two centuries; Jefferson wrote it.

With that, alas, I have far too much to do to continue this debate. To those who actually support our efforts, I thank you. As for the trolls…well, you know who you are.

It's not that we don't support your efforts, but your efforts are not the only efforts with regard to protection/preservation of the RTKBA and quite honestly, that's how you came across.
 
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Someone asked about Paul being contemptuous towards volunteers. I haven't seen/felt that in my experience.

I've only met him once, and he just seemed busy but definitely not rude to me.

As far as folks not wanting to volunteer next week, that's fine. I can use others. :)

SPM, I'm not trying to drag you out or anything, but your comment about most of the members here being content to string up the politicians already, does them and us a disservice.

If folks don't dedicate time to volunteer when there are no risks of bullets flying back at them, they are likely not ready to actually start doing murderous deeds. I'm not trying to sound demeaning, but the logic is there... :/

I know they have been trying to get help writing gun blasts for weeks, yet to my knowledge nobody stepped up.... they've had to cancel having tables at various shows due to people just not willing to step up and coordinate those shows.

Hickory was one example, but there are others. I think Concord, was too but not sure...
 
Someone asked about Paul being contemptuous towards volunteers. I haven't seen/felt that in my experience.

I've only met him once, and he just seemed busy but definitely not rude to me.

As far as folks not wanting to volunteer next week, that's fine. I can use others. :)

SPM, I'm not trying to drag you out or anything, but your comment about most of the members here being content to string up the politicians already, does them and us a disservice.

If folks don't dedicate time to volunteer when there are no risks of bullets flying back at them, they are likely not ready to actually start doing murderous deeds. I'm not trying to sound demeaning, but the logic is there... :/

I know they have been trying to get help writing gun blasts for weeks, yet to my knowledge nobody stepped up.... they've had to cancel having tables at various shows due to people just not willing to step up and coordinate those shows.

Hickory was one example, but there are others. I think Concord, was too but not sure...

I'm seeing a pattern
 
SPM, I'm not trying to drag you out or anything, but your comment about most of the members here being content to string up the politicians already, does them and us a disservice.

If folks don't dedicate time to volunteer when there are no risks of bullets flying back at them, they are likely not ready to actually start doing murderous deeds. I'm not trying to sound demeaning, but the logic is there... :/

You know what?

I was going to respond to this, but he's on here right now, so I'm gonna bite my friggon tongue, exercise a bit-o-restraint and allow him the chance to reply.

Suffice to say that if more folks had his mindset, we probably would not be in the shape we're in. I personally don't think you're going to find a stronger advocate for liberty than @SPM.
 
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"But...in truth...a bully that claims he is out for you is still just a bully."


You may not have meant it this way, but the way I read that reminds me of those "we will keep the moral high ground and write in Ronald Reagan on the ballot because everyone running is worse". :/

If that's not what you mean, ok great. But the simple truth is that we don't need Ned Starks, we need season two Tyrion's. :D

I am fine and dandy with Paul's demeanor if he gets results we want on the hill in Raleigh.

No...you don't understand leadership. GOT is a fantasy. And Tyrion won by out smarting his foe, using technology, and planning. He didn't walk through the barracks of his army calling all of his own soldiers morons who are lazy and should be happy that there are awesome people like the Lannisters who get them stuck in these situations.

Paul Valone is no Tyrion Lannister and you are no Little Finger.


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Someone asked about Paul being contemptuous towards volunteers. I haven't seen/felt that in my experience.

I've only met him once, and he just seemed busy but definitely not rude to me.

As far as folks not wanting to volunteer next week, that's fine. I can use others. :)

SPM, I'm not trying to drag you out or anything, but your comment about most of the members here being content to string up the politicians already, does them and us a disservice.

If folks don't dedicate time to volunteer when there are no risks of bullets flying back at them, they are likely not ready to actually start doing murderous deeds. I'm not trying to sound demeaning, but the logic is there... :/

I know they have been trying to get help writing gun blasts for weeks, yet to my knowledge nobody stepped up.... they've had to cancel having tables at various shows due to people just not willing to step up and coordinate those shows.

Hickory was one example, but there are others. I think Concord, was too but not sure...

So your failure to get volunteers for your organization is somehow a reflection on this sites dedication to the 2nd Amendment?

That's not how it works.


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No...you don't understand leadership. GOT is a fantasy. And Tyrion won by out smarting his foe, using technology, and planning. He didn't walk through the barracks of his army calling all of his own soldiers morons who are lazy and should be happy that there are awesome people like the Lannisters who get them stuck in these situations.

Paul Valone is no Tyrion Lannister and you are no Little Finger.


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As far as folks not wanting to volunteer next week, that's fine. I can use others. :)

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See, This is where things go wrong....
I get " no skin off our nose " you are not needed anyway, we have others "
Which is only marginally better than " sack the F up "

This should have gone ( in my opinion ) : ' I really wish you guys would reconsider if you could change your schedules. We - as in Residents of NC , really need everybody we can get. '
 
SPM, I'm not trying to drag you out or anything, but your comment about most of the members here being content to string up the politicians already, does them and us a disservice.

I assure you, I certainly don't care if a political stooge (aka politician) feels like my indifference towards his discomfort or demise is a disservice.

They serve us, not the other way around.

I didn't say march on the capital. I didn't say rape, pillage, go to war. I didn't say anything about bullets and bayonets.

But the notion that our indifference to Valone's ranting is akin to wanting to coddle those who barter our Rights and Liberties away or use them as bargaining chips in political schemes is ridiculous.

Free Men and Free Women are Free because they choose to be. They have no use for a political class that has spent it's life trying to rule them.

Further, they suffer the political class (which includes lobbyists, fwiw) only as long as they are sufferable.

What I am saying is if in the course of human events it ever came to a terrible day when pitchforks, torches, rifles, gallows and the hearts of Free Men were truly necessary, it wouldn't be murderous deeds.

It would be because Free Men always govern themselves - and always intend to.

No one wants that. But Paul isn't the only man on this Earth who doesn't suffer fools.

One last thing - no man was ever so ill equipped as one American trying to talk his fellow out of his Liberty.

You know what?

I was going to respond to this, but he's on here right now, so I'm gonna bite my friggon tongue, exercise a bit-o-restraint and allow him the chance to reply.

Suffice to say that if more folks had his mindset, we probably would not be in the shape we're in. I personally don't think you're going to find a stronger advocate for liberty than @SPM.

My friend, you and I are of the same mind, and I can see no defense you would make of Liberty and the Rights of Man that I would not be fully proud to see and hear and throw my full support behind.

I hold your opinions in the highest esteem.

But thank you. I am truly humbled to likewise have so heart an endorsement.

I know they have been trying to get help writing gun blasts for weeks, yet to my knowledge nobody stepped up.... they've had to cancel having tables at various shows due to people just not willing to step up and coordinate those shows.

What do these blasts entail? Do they get edited in a committee, or require folks to kiss the ring? Is the person the actual author, or simply a mouth piece for the leadership?
 
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What do these blasts entail? Do they get edited in a committee, or require folks to kiss the ring? Is the person the actual author, or simply a mouth piece for the leadership?
I don't think it's the ring they're kissing ,seems further south
 
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due to people just not willing to step up and coordinate those shows.
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Re read and found another.

Should have gone, " due to people unable to coordinate those shows "

Your statement is implying contempt and someone needs to sack the F up.
Mine shows -understanding others have lives too and We could really use someone to help with this.
 
It takes a special kind of chutzpah to step into a committee room, knowing that everybody there hates your guts, but that they will do your bidding anyway.

GRNC Alerts seem like a waste if the members of the legislature fear Paul and will do his bidding anyway.

Now, let's talk about abolishing Pistol Purchase Permits ...
 
Someone asked about Paul being contemptuous towards volunteers. I haven't seen/felt that in my experience.

I've only met him once, and he just seemed busy but definitely not rude to me.

As far as folks not wanting to volunteer next week, that's fine. I can use others. :)


Man i met you , you seem like a good guy. But you saying{ well ill just use another} has let me to say this: if someone else were to ask i might consider volunteering but with the attitude of {you don't matter, there are others } seems like you have taken Paul's attitude. So i will send you a text and please remove me from your contact list.
 
See, This is where things go wrong....
I get " no skin off our nose " you are not needed anyway, we have others "
Which is only marginally better than " sack the F up "

This should have gone ( in my opinion ) : ' I really wish you guys would reconsider if you could change your schedules. We - as in Residents of NC , really need everybody we can get. '


You are right, this is exactly why I prefer phone calling people vs texting. It is soooo much easier for words to be mistranslated via type than it is in person. :(

What I meant to come across was, "I've got a good crew already, and wanted to add more, but if folks want out, I can be fine. I realize this thread has got folks riled up."

I am the farthest thing possible from a jerk. I'm a tad crazy, but I'm also kind and considerate.
 
As for the "why don't you have a forum rep?" I can answer that.

We do. We simply have lives to lead. We aren't the NRA with paid people, we are all volunteers here, which means we must work too. Then you take into account family time, sleep, etc, we have full plates.

I try to be on various forums, but again, my plate varies. then I had that lightning storm kill my internet for a week, that stung.

So get a forum representative from the forum. Someone who spend the majority of their available time here....not here, there and everywhere with a plate so full they cannot dedicate the time necessary at any of those places to actually build a working relationship.

This isn't as hard as you guys are making it.

People want to help.
 
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"What do these blasts entail? Do they get edited in a committee, or require folks to kiss the ring? Is the person the actual author, or simply a mouth piece for the leadership?"

What a gun blast is, whenever you try to pass a piece of pro-2A legislation, the media will have a antigun article, with either lies, half truths, etc. that's a given.

The gun blasts point these articles out to subscribers. The subscribers then go to the comments pages, and leave factual comments about why this is a good bill, why we really need it, etc.

Yes, it's an uphill battle but I have had quite a lot of fun doing it.

Does this make sense?
 
Paul compared himself to Machiavelli's The Prince...lol

@SPM brought up a good point (I believe it was him, apologies if it wasnt it) - all that 'brung em to the dance' talk and then he treats his (Paul/GRNC) supporters like crap because they dont attend his rally or complain about being asked to dress professionally while his folks dress up in costumes.

GRNC - thanks for being the ONLY reason we have any gun rights in NC, but you'll not see a single cent from me ever again.
And if Paul wants names - I'll give him mine in person next weekend at the gun show...that's if he's even there.
 
You are right, this is exactly why I prefer phone calling people vs texting. It is soooo much easier for words to be mistranslated via type than it is in person. :(

What I meant to come across was, "I've got a good crew already, and wanted to add more, but if folks want out, I can be fine. I realize this thread has got folks riled up."

I am the farthest thing possible from a jerk. I'm a tad crazy, but I'm also kind and considerate.

You know, if all the communication in this thread from your organization had read like this one, you wouldn't be getting the comments that you've been getting. I don't have the first problem with this. But the arrogance that I've gotten in the other posts has rubbed me the wrong way.

Yes it's hard to communicate via the written word. There is no tone inflection or facial expression to help the person(s) that you're talking to understand what you're trying to say. But for god's sake man, GRNC is an organization that lives or dies by communication. If this is the best that you can do, I'm not impressed with what I've seen here tonight except for what I've quoted above.
 
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GRNC - thanks for being the ONLY reason we have any gun rights in NC, but you'll not see a single cent from me ever again.
And if Paul wants names - I'll give him mine in person next weekend at the gun show...that's if he's even there.

He won't be at the Winston show, if that's what you mean. Or at least he hasn't spoken to me about it.

I will be the guy in kaki pants, with old mans mind in a body that appears about 30'ish.. :D
 
I was a paying member of GRNC and even worked a gun show in Raleigh for/with them. The demeaning attitude I witnessed at the show and in their emails was a little worrisome.
Then there was a conflict much like this one on CSC a while ago and their behavior was similar to now. Condescension seems to be a GRNC required trait.

Fast forward to the creation of CFF. I was no longer a paying member of GRNC. However, when the request came for donations for CFF to support GRNC, I happily donated. Everyone deserves a second chance.

Now it seems that my worries are still grounded in reality. I waited to post in this thread so I could see where cooler heads would take us. Now I know.

GRNC, I would ask you to learn a lesson that I did not learn quickly enough which caused a lot of pain. You can circle the wagons and fight with what you have for only so long. Eventually, you will run out of resources. If you do not embrace outsiders, you will eventually perish.

So, remain arrogant, defensive, condescending and callous, if you wish. But the next time the leadership is wondering why we don't have enough people to get things done, remember that good people are still drawn to honey more than vinegar. I wanted to be a working member of GRNC; but once again, you have shown me that you don't want me.
 
Let's look at another side of this.
I would imagine dealing with politicians is about a rewarding as shooting yourself in the leg. I imagine that dealing with the general public is about as rewarding and we all know dealing with a great % of the gun community can be taxing.
I'm sure it takes a certain "personality" to run this show effectively. Being nice to everyone accomplishes little, knowing when to shift gears, accomplishes great things.
This is the same reason why most "gun guys" make lousy gun shop owners, they are not people persons.
Is it frustrating to get beaten up by the arm chair qb's, sure, especially when they are the ones supposedly on your side.
But you don't turn the pit bulls loose on your own people, you save that for the enemy.
Could Paul "polish" the old personality a little, sure, but I bet it won't happen. Could they use a person that is a little more diplomatic in these areas to address the concerns of a local gun forum, absolutely.
Trust me, you can't get the gun community to agree on which way the wind is blowing but attacking its members sure seems to bring them together and in this case, not in a good way.

Let's all just back up a little, learn from this cluster frick and move forward, digging the hole deeper is just stupid.
 
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Let's look at another side of this.
I would imagine dealing with politicians is about a rewarding as shooting yourself in the leg. I imagine that dealing with the general public is about as rewarding and we all know dealing with a great % of the gun community can be taxing.
I'm sure it takes a certain "personality" to run this show effectively. Being nice to everyone accomplishes little, knowing when to shift gears, accomplishes great things.
This is the same reason why most "gun guys" make lousy gun shop owners, they are not people persons.
Is it frustrating to get beaten up by the arm chair qb's, sure, especially when they are the ones supposedly on your side.
But you don't turn the pit bulls loose on your own people, you save that for the enemy.
Could Paul "polish" the old personality a little, sure, but I bet it won't happen. Could they use a person that is a little more diplomatic in these areas to address the concerns of a local gun forum, absolutely.
Trust me, you can't get the gun community to agree on which way the wind is blowing but attacking its members sure seems to bring them together and in this case, not in a good way.

Let's all just back up a little, learn from this cluster frick and move forward, digging the hole deeper is just stupid.
Outstanding post right here.
 
We here at Carolina Firearms Forum are not outsiders in regard to Second Amendment issues. We, along with our like-minded brothers and sisters from Murphy to Manteo, are the lifeblood of gun rights in this state.

Using the Grass Roots analogy, we are the strongest roots for gun rights that an organization could ever hope for. As others have already said, we write an untold number of letters and emails, make countless phone calls, and visit our legislators until we achieve our goals. We do that, not because of some 'gun blast' from a lobbyist, but because history tells us what can happen if our rights aren't fervently protected. We do it because we care about the future.

Paul admitted that he uses the Rules for Radicals in his approach to the fight for gun rights. If it hasn't already, that will get GRNC, and CFF by association, tagged as a radical group, something we fight against every day as gun owners. That is not the direction we can afford to allow this fight to go. If that happens, we will be marginalized politically and pushed to the wayside.

I plan to disassociate myself with GRNC for the near future until such time as Paul and the GRNC back away from the radicalized posture.
 
Lots of people have asked for information straight from GRNC and the two bozos who posted earlier - nothing.
But yet they ARE still on here and posting about the 'success' of Thursday

Shows how much they care about us.
 
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Lots of people have asked for information straight from GRNC and the two bozos who posted earlier - nothing.
But yet they ARE still on here and posting about the 'success' of Thursday

Shows how much they care about us.


Perhaps they realize arguing with the (very) vocal minority of members posting in this thread would be counter productive.
 
GRNC President Paul Valone sends the following:

If the following pisses you off, I can say only that after kicking tail for 23 years – for no money – I figure that I shouldn’t have to suffer fools.​

For those unfamiliar with political tactics, here is today’s lesson:

“Guerrilla theatre
Guerrilla (Spanish for ‘little war’), as applied to theatrical events, describes the act of spontaneous, surprise performances in unlikely public spaces to an unsuspecting audience. Typically these performances intend to draw attention to a political/social issue through SATIRE, PROTEST, AND CARNIVALESQUE TECHNIQUES. Many of these performances were a direct result of the radical social movements of the late 1960s through mid-1970s. Guerrilla Theater, also referred to as guerrilla performance, has been sometimes related to the agitprop theater of the 1930s,but it is differentiated from agitprop by the inclusion of Dada performance tactics.”
I have to say that I am surprised that GRNC would continue to push for passage of HB 746, only to be met with derision from within the gun rights community. Maybe this is the product of the usual armchair quarterbacks who never get off their collective butts to actually defend what they whine about. But if the sentiment is widespread, just let us know and we will sit back and let the bill die.

I realize you may not have bothered to take the legislative tactics seminars we hold each year but, if you had, you would know that once politicians are ensconced in power, what they want most is to retain power. The best way to do that is to not piss anybody off. The best way to do *that* is to not actually do anything. Throw in an opportunity to draw their own districts and you have the inertia which now causes the General Assembly to forget about the gun owners who elected them.

Unless you have a few hundred thousand dollars you would care to contribute to our super PAC, that leaves us with the option of trying to sway them with scarce resources, especially since gun owners are not currently threatened as they were during the Obama administration, have largely gone back to sleep, and can’t be bothered to show up.

So what is the best way to sway politicians? To lampoon them. Better yet, to let the *media* lampoon them…free of charge. And how can we get the media (who hate us) to carry the message? Make it outrageous, of course.

And by the way, you will perhaps notice that the street theater we conducted was carefully nuanced to deliver to Phil Berger the message that we aren’t going away and that we are prepared to escalate to actually damaging re-election prospects for selected Republicans, while not pissing off the most powerful Republican in the state. In fact, what the ignorant are whining about is quite probably the most cleverly nuanced political operation we have ever orchestrated.

So if you think you can do better, come on up and give it a shot. Then maybe I can actually get time to shoot for a change.

Otherwise, go back to your Budweiser and your football game and let the volunteers with skill, dedication and motivation continue doing what they’ve done for 23 years: Kicking ass.

Paul Valone

P.S. If you don’t like what GRNC is doing, I suppose you can sign the “petition” and send money to NAGR operative Noel Fritsch and Reilly O’Neal’s rip-off calling itself “North Carolina Gun Owners.” I’m sure they will enjoy your money. Or I guess you could also throw money at the so-called “North Carolina Firearms Coalition,” run by another former NAGR operative, Patrick Parsons out of Georgia, which just sent me a lovely piece of fundraising mail imploring me to “Stop Roy Cooper’s Gun Control Bill!”, and saying that “Urgent Action is Needed” to defeat Rep. Pricey Harrison & Co.'s HB 723. Of course, HB 723 is already deader than a door nail (and was DOA when introduced), but I’m sure he too will be happy to take your money.​
Which sounds to me like "Sack the f#[k up and come out to help."

Welcome to the forum, awesome 3rd. post.
 
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