I have a 17 Avenger style holster that will be done soon. It was supposed to be a 19 but I forgot to cut the length before i stitched it up. Ill post a pic tomorrow. The Fatlines are exceptional. It will be for cell. Just think some day the historians will say "it can't be that old onery bastard didn't make Grock holsters. He hated those damn plastic abominations.