Gun in car when stopped by police..

Red Marley said:
If you're transporting a pistol without a concealed handgun permit, you might want to consider getting one of these lock boxes that attach to your car with a tether:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stack-On-PC...Box-Key-Lock-Black-Car-Revolver-/271437692832
They are available at pretty much any gun store. Locked in here your gun is perfectly legal if you're stopped.
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I actually already have a lock box with a tether! I was thinking I'd attach it to the strut or hinge in the trunk.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Go to that link I provided you and look under the section titled "Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below". You'll see that NC honors all other state's licenses.

Open carry laws apply to both residents and non-residents.
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Thanks so much! Cousin will be glad.
 
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Millie said:
Doesn't it also cover out of staters carrying a gun here? I've got a cousin who's getting a CC permit in Illinois, and from the map I found, we won't honor that, but he should be able to open carry, I think. They own property here, which might make a difference. I didn't read that part before, since it didn't pertain to me. And what I did read, I obviously got wrong! Lol.
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Hi Millie,
Effective December 1, 2011, North Carolina automatically recognizes concealed carry permits issued in any other state. http://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/19be6294-bfbf-4875-bbef-ac2ebb6f47b2/Concealed-Weapon-Reciprocity.aspx Your cousin shouldn't have any problems carrying if he has a concealed carry permit. I am not a fan of the laws here in NC when it comes to carrying in your car. With no permit, you must have your gun in plain sight. This leaves you in a bad situation if a LEO overacts. Then when you take it from your car, unless on your property, you must open carry. The sooner you get a permit the better off you will be. I have always been treated with courtesy by every LEO when I informed them I was carrying . One Officer that was running for Sherriff in our county came over to speak to my wife and me at a restaurant. I informed him that I was carrying concealed. He said, "Me too".
 
Before I received my concealed permit I used an owb holster clipped to the passenger side buckled seatbelt in plain view.
This video is courtesy of the Calcasieu Parish, LA Sheriffs Office.

 
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Jaysq said:
Hi Millie,
Effective December 1, 2011, North Carolina automatically recognizes concealed carry permits issued in any other state. http://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/19be6294-bfbf-4875-bbef-ac2ebb6f47b2/Concealed-Weapon-Reciprocity.aspx Your cousin shouldn't have any problems carrying if he has a concealed carry permit. I am not a fan of the laws here in NC when it comes to carrying in your car. With no permit, you must have your gun in plain sight. This leaves you in a bad situation if a LEO overacts. Then when you take it from your car, unless on your property, you must open carry. The sooner you get a permit the better off you will be. I have always been treated with courtesy by every LEO when I informed them I was carrying . One Officer that was running for Sherriff in our county came over to speak to my wife and me at a restaurant. I informed him that I was carrying concealed. He said, "Me too".
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I carry it to the car in my big old purse, then put it on the seat. Oct. 22 and 29 will be the days of my CC classes, first the qualifying with whatever gun I decide to use, second the class for 8 hours. I'll tell my cousin the good news, so he can get to work on his CC. I think he said all you need up there is a Gun Owner's Permit....lucky ducks! Thanks for the info!
 
You may want to consider securing it some way so that the gun doesn't end up out reach if it's needed.

Also, it would be ideal for it to be in a holster at all times.
 
Millie said:
I carry it to the car in my big old purse, then put it on the seat. Oct. 22 and 29 will be the days of my CC classes, first the qualifying with whatever gun I decide to use, second the class for 8 hours. I'll tell my cousin the good news, so he can get to work on his CC. I think he said all you need up there is a Gun Owner's Permit....lucky ducks! Thanks for the info!
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No, they aren't really so lucky. They have to have a Gun Owner's Permit just to own a gun. Then they have to get a concealed permit. https://www.isba.org/ibj/2013/12/thenewillinoisconcealedcarrylaw?no_cache=1386359905

We are bad enough with our purchase permits.
 
One of my motivations for getting a CHP was actually to avoid all the issues regarding transporting guns. Yes, you can open carry and yes you can transport a gun in the car as long as it is in plain sight. What if the gun is on the passenger seat and your jacket or a McDonald's wrapper moves around to cover all or part of it when a LEO walks up?

Also, it is such a pleasure not to have to wait while asking the Sheriff's permission each time I want to buy a gun. I only need to buy 30 or so guns over the 5 year period for the cost of the CHP class & permit to be a wash versus buying PPP's. :D
 
Many, many different answers. Very confusing. Millie, make your way on over to opencarry.org
Most folks on that forum would advise you to just leave your pistol in the holster.
Some members of this forum are also members of the open carry forum as well. I expect they will chime in eventually.
 
Millie said:
I carry it to the car in my big old purse, then put it on the seat. Oct. 22 and 29 will be the days of my CC classes, first the qualifying with whatever gun I decide to use, second the class for 8 hours. I'll tell my cousin the good news, so he can get to work on his CC. I think he said all you need up there is a Gun Owner's Permit....lucky ducks! Thanks for the info!
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I think you would be taking the class part before the qualifying.
 
325rto said:
Many, many different answers. Very confusing. Millie, make your way on over to opencarry.org
Most folks on that forum would advise you to just leave your pistol in the holster.
Some members of this forum are also members of the open carry forum as well. I expect they will chime in eventually.
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I leave mine holstered now a days.
 
Ikarus1 said:
Like I said, no CHP, you better put it on the dash quick, out of your immediate reach if possible. Hands on the wheel. Maybe mount a holster there:rolleyes:
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We usually agree but I'm unsure this is solid advice.

Police officer stops you and the first thing you do is reach down onto the seat and grab a handgun to put it on the dash. That sounds like a recipe for a disaster waiting to happen.

Millie - maybe you can Velcro or use bungee cords to hold your pistol in a holster to the top of the center console. Keep your hands on the wheel and well clear of the firearm during a stop. The first thing to do when approached is to calmly tell the officer you have a weapon, its location and ask him how he wants to proceed. Obviously, get your CHP as soon as possible
 
BASIL said:
I think you would be taking the class part before the qualifying.
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They said to take the qualifying first, so I followed the instructor's directions and got the dates in the order he said! It sounded backwards, but he said preferably qualify first....maybe he weeds out the hopeless ones that way, saving everyone a bunch more time??? Lol. Plus a guy I talked to says the class part is borrriiingggg, so maybe my guy thinks if we get to do the shooting part first, we'll be inspired to stay awake in class??? Personally, I like classes, so I think I'll be good.
 
IIRC, we did most of the class work, broke for lunch, then the range, and the written test; in that order.
 
Daedalus-NC said:
We usually agree but I'm unsure this is solid advice.

Police officer stops you and the first thing you do is reach down onto the seat and grab a handgun to put it on the dash. That sounds like a recipe for a disaster waiting to happen.

Millie - maybe you can Velcro or use bungee cords to hold your pistol in a holster to the top of the center console. Keep your hands on the wheel and well clear of the firearm during a stop. The first thing to do when approached is to calmly tell the officer you have a weapon, its location and ask him how he wants to proceed. Obviously, get your CHP as soon as possible
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Yes, I think fumbling around on the seat to move a gun would be asking for trouble.....my plan if I get stopped has always been to just leave it openly on the seat, keep my hands visible, then tell the officer about the gun, and see what he/she tells me to do next. That way nobody makes any moves that may be misinterpreted. And yes on the CC....I should have the papers ready to present to the sheriff on Oct. 30. I'm assuming the instructor will give us our paper as soon as classroom part is over and we did well on shooting the week before? Then I guess the looong wait begins....lol.
 
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BASIL said:
If they are qualifying first, without safety instruction, you need to find a new instructor.
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The guy said he'd have plenty of time to show me what I need to know....and it's not like I've never fired a gun! I've owned guns since I was 25, 26. I've just been asking lots of questions because I haven't fired my new gun yet. I'll probably use one of his .22s, then find a range nearby and get to work with the revolver. Doesn't that sound like a decent plan? Not to mention I've spent ages looking, and most of the classes I found were very far from me....I was looking in August, and signed up with this guy a few weeks ago.
 
Jeppo said:
IIRC, we did most of the class work, broke for lunch, then the range, and the written test; in that order.
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Well this guy has it set for shooting one day, then a week later an 8-hour classroom session. That was what I was able to find after weeks of looking! He's closer to my house than any of the others. I'd never heard of Cornelius, NC, before. So this is what I've got...
 
Mightyox04 said:
This is how it should work.

I've had them take my pistol and unload it. Then hand it back to me. He was a rookie and his trainer sat in the car. He took all the bullets out of the mag. That pissed me off. I slapped a new mag in as soon as I got it back right in front of him. I said I carry 3 mags. Well I did it for your safety and mine. So I'm safer when your armed and I'm not. He only wasted both of our time. His time unloading the mag and mine loading it back. I don't know who was training him but he shouldnt have been.
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I would have filed a formal complaint, no reason to handle your firearm unless the law allowed it, Louisiana for example.
 
Daedalus-NC said:
We usually agree but I'm unsure this is solid advice.

Police officer stops you and the first thing you do is reach down onto the seat and grab a handgun to put it on the dash. That sounds like a recipe for a disaster waiting to happen.

Millie - maybe you can Velcro or use bungee cords to hold your pistol in a holster to the top of the center console. Keep your hands on the wheel and well clear of the firearm during a stop. The first thing to do when approached is to calmly tell the officer you have a weapon, its location and ask him how he wants to proceed. Obviously, get your CHP as soon as possible
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PS my elbow is on the armrest, and water bottles in the cup holders...the seat is it, I'm afraid.
 
TripleO7 said:
Some LGS offer an opportunity to qualify prior to the class. I did the shooting about a week before the class.
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Thanks for that...it's the setup this guy has to offer...I'm fine with it!
 
Jeppo said:
One of my motivations for getting a CHP was actually to avoid all the issues regarding transporting guns. Yes, you can open carry and yes you can transport a gun in the car as long as it is in plain sight. What if the gun is on the passenger seat and your jacket or a McDonald's wrapper moves around to cover all or part of it when a LEO walks up?

Also, it is such a pleasure not to have to wait while asking the Sheriff's permission each time I want to buy a gun. I only need to buy 30 or so guns over the 5 year period for the cost of the CHP class & permit to be a wash versus buying PPP's. :D
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I agree, one of the officers who works the lgs made this transportation point,
I have been known to drive from Raleigh to Havelock and other points for meet and greets,
I bring a dozen handguns and five or more rifles with me, all cased and unloaded except for my edc.
 
Button Pusher said:
Before I received my concealed permit I used an owb holster clipped to the passenger side buckled seatbelt in plain view.
This video is courtesy of the Calcasieu Parish, LA Sheriffs Office.

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I loved the video, and love, love the "clip the holstered gun to the passenger seat belt" idea! Very excellent, because the gun on the seat could fall to the foot well if you swerve or brake hard. I'm going to do this now. And another question... How high up on the belt? Low near the seat, or midway up?
 
Button Pusher said:
I would have filed a formal complaint, no reason to handle your firearm unless the law allowed it, Louisiana for example.
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My CHP instructor told of one encounter where the Officer asked to see the concealed gun. The instructor refused, saying, "Nothing in the law permits you to demand that".
 
Scott88 said:
You may want to consider securing it some way so that the gun doesn't end up out reach if it's needed.

Also, it would be ideal for it to be in a holster at all times.
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It is in the holster. At all times...no need to flash it all around naked. Lol and I read a brilliant way to secure it a few posts down! I read from bottom up.
 
Jeppo said:
My CHP instructor told of one encounter where the Officer asked to see the concealed gun. The instructor refused, saying, "Nothing in the law permits you to demand that".
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Mine discussed that too.

Don't Do It! He intimated that some may do that to have an excuse to say that you reached for the weapon.
 
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Millie said:
I loved the video, and love, love the "clip the holstered gun to the passenger seat belt" idea! Very excellent, because the gun on the seat could fall to the foot well if you swerve or brake hard. I'm going to do this now. And another question... How high up on the belt? Low near the seat, or midway up?
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PS...I clipped the gun to the seat belt when I went out earlier, midway up....great idea...though I'm sure some won't agree!
 
Before I had my CHP I would do the following when pulled over.

Pull over, turn on the trucks interior light and leave my gun on the passenger seat, pulled over quite a few times never had a problem.
 
Pre CHP, drop mag & toss across dash, lock slide open & place on dash, window down, interior light on, license between my fingers, both hands on the wheel and say good day sir, there's a gun on the dash. I was usually thanked profusely.
Post CHP- same routine, add the permit in my fingers, and leave the gun wherever it was.
I pulled a dumbass in SC last week, 21 mph over and cut him off. I made him laugh at me, got written a 9 over $69 fine.
I learned I'd much rather be pulled in SC :)
 
Millie said:
I loved the video, and love, love the "clip the holstered gun to the passenger seat belt" idea! Very excellent, because the gun on the seat could fall to the foot well if you swerve or brake hard. I'm going to do this now. And another question... How high up on the belt? Low near the seat, or midway up?
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Clipped to the lap belt.
 
Button Pusher said:
Clipped to the lap belt.
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Oops, well mine was on chest belt earlier, seemed to work OK and my big old purse didn't cover it up, so it was easily visible, but not sticking up near window height so everyone passing by can see.
 
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