Guns sales up vs. last year

For the month of October, 2018, there were 2,086,895 NICS transactions.

October of this year, there were 2,393,609 transactions...works out to 77,213 firearms PER DAY and that does not include private transactions or those via FFL that did not require a NICS check.

Yeah...I’m not seeing the narrative of “The American people want more gun control” being anywhere close to the truth.

And their numbers in the article appear to be off a bit...

Gun sales are expected to push past the 13.8 million sold last year,


According to the FBI, there were a total of 26,181,936 NICS transactions done in 2018. Now...I can understand when the numbers you report may not match up exactly, but being off by that much?

If I didn’t know any better, it seems as if they had the correct numbers in hand, but were told, “You can’t report there were over 26 million firearms transactions last year; just cut that number in half” and voila...whaddaya get?

Between 13-14 million...just what they reported.


FWIW, the last time the total NICS transactions for the year was 13-14 million was 2009....10 years ago.

Another example from the same article:

Sales are surging, but they are well below the 16.6 million sold in 2016 when anti-gun presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was expected to win.

2016 NICS transactions: 27,538,673

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wsfiredude said:
October of this year, there were 2,393,609 transactions...works out to 77,213 firearms PER DAY and that does not include private transactions or those via FFL that did not require a NICS check.
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Yeah, but keep in mind around half those were @BatteryOaksBilly. ;)
 
Why does a Washington website, doing a story about VA, decide to quote some moron from Hyatt guns?

Not that I’m surprised. They’ll put their name out there any way they can, even in anti-2A articles.
 
The real question is anyone making any money on those sales? I think the margins have been sacrificed to move the metal & plastic.
 
Since I have a CHP, no NICS is run when (if) I buy a gun.
There are a lot of states like that.
No one has a clue to how many are really (legally) sold. Of course, nobody considers the black market sales. I bet they add up.
 
larryh1108 said:
Since I have a CHP, no NICS is run when (if) I buy a gun.
There are a lot of states like that.
No one has a clue to how many are really (legally) sold. Of course, nobody considers the black market sales. I bet they add up.
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If we are trying to figure out (or impress the left with the enormity of their task) what matters is new sales. Private transfers are irrelevant.

We want to see how fast the total guns in private hands in the US is increasing. I expect there actually are pretty good numbers somewhere on the manufacturing and import/export end of the pipeline. That would just leave homemade guns which have to be negligible.
 
JimP42 said:
If we are trying to figure out (or impress the left with the enormity of their task) what matters is new sales. Private transfers are irrelevant.

We want to see how fast the total guns in private hands in the US is increasing. I expect there actually are pretty good numbers somewhere on the manufacturing and import/export end of the pipeline. That would just leave homemade guns which have to be negligible.
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How many of the checks were done on used firearms that were traded to a shop and are going home with a different person? That muddies the water.

Are the total number of firearms owners increasing (a good thing), the same number of owners increasing their holding (ok) or fewer owners greatly increasing their holding (not so good)?
 
rufrdr said:
How many of the checks were done on used firearms that were traded to a shop and are going home with a different person? That muddies the water.

Are the total number of firearms owners increasing (a good thing), the same number of owners increasing their holding (ok) or fewer owners greatly increasing their holding (not so good)?
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Good point on the first thing. I suspect not many percentage-wise but it does happen.

I have seen plenty of claims that there are lots of new gun owners out there but I have no data for that.
 
The data for how many new firearms produced yearly is out there.
It is listed by publicly traded companies and shows how many produced and exported.
There is also data for how many imported so assuming existing inventory on hand remains stable,
it would be pretty easy to get an idea of how many new firearms were produced in a given year.

On the flip side, how many firearms are confiscated or destroyed should be researched as well to see
a net increase/decrease of firearms out there for a given year. A rough idea is not hard to find out with
the data available.
 
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