HELP/INFORMATION:Mossberg Patriot 300WM and a Crossfire II by Vortex

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  1. HMP

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    Ok, I made a post last night that I won those two items above - the bolt action 300WM and a Crossfire II scope.
    But I really know very little about either of the items, so I thought Id ask a few questions to yall

    First of all, this is my first bolt action gun
    Secondly, dont mess with scopes much, so a lot of "NEW" here.

    What are your thoughts on the 300WM cartridge? Pros and Cons?
    About what can I expect to pay per round? (I wont have a chance at getting by a gun store or even walmart for a few more days, curious what to expect when I go ammo shopping)

    I need to get scope rings for this - Ive never bought them, anything to look for in particular as far as brand or place to buy?

    Anything else you want to say from experiences and knowledge of these items?
     
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    That’s awesome, congrats!!!

    I’m not much of a long range guy, but .300WM is a big round, pretty common mil and LE sniper round. Long action round, vs .308/.270/6.5 which are short action length.

    Can’t go wrong with Vortex optics as you probably know. For rings I like Burris XTR/SWFA for low cost and TPS for a bit more.
     
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    The SWFA web site has some search tools that will get you on the right rings for the gun. I called them when I was doing my first bolt action and they actually steered me in a safe direction. Just be sure to use your google skills to check on your scope objective size and bolt clearance. That way you can order the correct height rings. There are lots of good rings out there. DNZ is out of Sanford and they make good stuff. I like Warne's too. Leupold, Burris and a bunch of other make good stuff too.

    If you don't hunt or shoot distance your other option is to sell or trade that rig for something you will use. 300WM wouldn't be my first choice for learning to shoot and set up a bolt action.
     
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    I looked at the box, 3 x 9 x 40, thoughts on that?
     
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    How come?
     
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    3x9 is a great all around scope, just realize you won’t be looking at detailed bullet holes at 200yd but you’ll be able to identify your target at almost any distance.

    .300WM isn’t a great first/only bolt gun because it’s a big round. It’s pretty flat shooting so normally zeroed at 200yd. Not going to be a fun one to shoot 20rd through at the range, whereas I can shoot 50rd through my .308 no problem.

    Just got shoot it and you’ll see what we’re saying. Then shoot a friend’s .308/6.5/.270 etc.
     
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    I am pretty sure that is an expensive round, with decent recoil used for distance application. Great if you need all that. Or you can start with some thing cheaper that you can shoot more for less. And probably with less recoil. But if you like it and got it for free it doesn't have to make sense. Shoot it.
     
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    It’s a 7lb 300 Win MAG. It’s gonna rock your world. It’s about 50 cents more per round if you get a Sierra Matchking bullet ($18/20 for .308 and $28/20 for 300WM)

    .308-> .30-06 -> .300WM (belted magnum case)
    [​IMG]

    I have the MVP LR in .308/7.62 and I like it a lot
     
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    I have the patriot 300 Win Mag and it's a blast! I loaded up some 245Gr monsters in it and it's a canon. surprisingly accurate for a $350 rifle.
     
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    Jesus, that's a big cartridge!
    Maybe a 308 would be better for me to play with at the range, and easier on the pocket, but Im not sure how I could get out of this and into a smaller caliber easily. We'll see.

    Yall are so very helpful, thank you
     
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    We have this classified thing on here. Post it up for a trade and see what people offer you. If you don't like the offers keep it. If it is for range shooting you could go 308, 243, a 6.5 variant or even 5.56/223. Lots of good options. Or you could go with a smaller varmint caliber. Even 22's are fun.
     
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    I have a few 22LR rifles now
    And I have a 556 rifle now, which is sort of why I was thinking of something a bit larger.
    I dont know, I'll think on it and might post it up for trade.
     
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    I was in the same boat. I don't hunt so most of the bigger calibers didn't make a ton of sense to me. I have a CZ 527 carbine in 7.62x39 which is cheap and fun to shoot. And if need be could kill a deer or pig. But it is not really a target shooting gun. So I just got a CZ 527 Varmint in 6.5 Grendel. Haven't mounted the scope yet, but it should make a nice target gun with hunting capabilities if ever needed.
     
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    Or sell the rifle outright, keep the scope, and buy a .308 version:

    MVP 7.62 with 18.5” medium contour 1:10 twist, takes 7.62 PMags. Shoots really well. 4-16x42 Vortex Diamondback HP

    [​IMG]
     
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    Man, now youre making me think of just doing another 223/556, since I already have a can...
    I could sell, thought of that, but I'd prefer to sell for enough (or really really dang close) to buy another, and at that point it'll be hard finding someone who would spend as much as they'd pay at Academy etc
     
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    The MVP Varmint 5.56 is awesome. I could cover ten shots with a dime using 52gr SMK or the 50gr Ballistic tip American Eagle

    24” 1:9 twist barrel was stupid accurate
     
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