High Dollar Scopes

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While at the Minin Shot Show they had some really high dollar scopes on a few of the rifles that you could shoot. The first on I jumped on was the NF and when I looked through it I could not figure out where the cross hairs were. There were way to many hash marks in there for me. I use to looking at a simple crosshair or a reticle DBC. The next few that I shot I paid a lot more attention to the hash marks. I do not think I want one like those.
 
They take some getting used to, but once you can start to see through them its difficult to go back.

I'm a big fan of the xmas tree articles now. Faster than dialing.
 
They take some getting used to, but once you can start to see through them its difficult to go back.

I'm a big fan of the xmas tree articles now. Faster than dialing.

BurnedOutGeek, I could live with a xmas tree but these like had a xmas tree on 4 different axises.
 
I would like one of those with a gradiated (sp) line for 5.56.

Any scopes I have used are single crosshair.

I only have one scope I call good. It's a Trijicon Accupoint 1-4x24 with German crosshairs. That's thr best glass I've used so I don't even know what the heck I'm even doing in this thread.
 
.......Nightforce is an excellent scope. The reticles are some type of ranging system. They do offer a few different reticles, some that are less busy. There are others that are also very good that are not cheap...Leupold VX3 and up, Vortex Viper and Razor, Sightron SIII, Zeiss....
 
If it's a Mil or MOA based reticle, it could be used for any caliber. MIL/MOA is not a "Bullet Drop Compensator".

Ok, I thought the markings were graduated according to bullet drop and that varies by speed/weight etc?

Thanks
 
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Ok, I thought the markings were graduated according to bullet drop and that varies by speed/weight etc?

Thanks

BDCs are great for hunting rigs and closer ranges, but the guys spending big bucks on high end scopes don't want to be bound to specific bullet weight/speed. So, they'll simply figure out where their pet load impacts at a given distance and MIL/MOA adjustment.

For example, at 700 yards, I need 4.6MIL correction.
 
Tim, the first one was for a 300 Win Mag and it was MIL. I shot 6 rounds through the gun and it felt like a 223. Not sure what can was on the gun. The next gun was a 6.5 CM on the new Daniel Defense bolt action and it too was MIL.
One of the guns there was as 308 and he said that it was going to the military for some testing. Again, I did not like the scope. It was on AR10 and way too heavy. The last rifle was a custom build 6.5 CM with about a 8 oz trigger and the reticle was more inline with a Xmas tree. I found it much easier to pick up 8" targets at 500 yards.

The first 2 scopes was too much for me to process in the short time I had on the guns. I am glad I did not like them because there is no way I would spend $2000+ on a scope.
 
A lot of folks put these high end scopes on .22's for competition. They are parallax free down to 25 yards. I'm in the market for a scope that I can shoot paper with out to 600 yards. I'll probably go with a used one since all of them come with a decent warranty. This scope will have a simple duplex style reticle, floating dot, and 1/8 MOA or 0.125 MIL turrets.
Once you figure out and start to use the Christmas tree reticles (or any hash mark reticle) it's hard to go back to a duplex. I have a few duplex reticles that are on dedicated hunting rifles and are sighted in at 200 yards. I rarely ever get a shot at a deer beyond 200 yards. In the event I hunt a few select spots that a shot may be out to 4-500 yards I switch to a MIL reticle and use my DOPE card and app's. These stands have good solid rests too.

BDC reticles are great for the 1% that actually figure out how to use them. The remaining 99% of Goobers and Fudds simply bang away at deer in the hope of eventually hitting one and maybe even finding it a week later. :mad: The best thing we ever did at our club was to hang a 6 inch steel plate at 200 yards. If you can't hit it with your hunting rig on the first shot from a solid bench you can't use it to hunt with. But I digress. :D
 
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Tim, the first one was for a 300 Win Mag and it was MIL. I shot 6 rounds through the gun and it felt like a 223. Not sure what can was on the gun. The next gun was a 6.5 CM on the new Daniel Defense bolt action and it too was MIL.
One of the guns there was as 308 and he said that it was going to the military for some testing. Again, I did not like the scope. It was on AR10 and way too heavy. The last rifle was a custom build 6.5 CM with about a 8 oz trigger and the reticle was more inline with a Xmas tree. I found it much easier to pick up 8" targets at 500 yards.

The first 2 scopes was too much for me to process in the short time I had on the guns. I am glad I did not like them because there is no way I would spend $2000+ on a scope.

The Nigthforce Benchrest scopes are much less than $2000 and have less complex reticles and 1/8 moa clicks. NF also makes a less expensive line (SHV). There are few Leupold MK4's still out there new going for around $1200. Sightron makes some good glass in that price range as well. All depends on what you want to do with a scope and rifle. Hunt, benchrest, PRS, F class, XTC, plink, etc. Some mfrs offer reticle change outs. Sightron does it all the time.
 
Some tough, and expensive decisions.

Thanks for sharing the information with an old goober like me!
 
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instead of the stadia/hash marks being set to specific distances, many shooters will opt for custom turret caps indexed for a specific load.

Send in your dope, they create a turret to match.

http://kentonindustries.com/custom-turrets/nightforce

Tim, I have a few of the cheaper Sig Whiskey scopes and had turrets cut for different bullets. The problem I had was the first one I put on I screwed up the zero. If you are using the same load, this is the way to go.
 
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