Holly Springs albino deer

Saw a Piebald last year on the gravel road leading to the William O Huske boat ramp on the Cape Fear. Blew my mind. Me and my partner was speechless. The millennial we drug along to fishing didn’t understand the significance. I’ll probably never see another one.
 
Some years ago, I saw one on my property a couple times.
 
It pisses people off but that genetic abnormality no matter how “beautiful”, “spirit animalis”, etc needs to be removed from the herd ... it is not a good trait from a strong sustainable population.
 
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NCFubar said:
It pisses people off but that genetic abnormality no matter how “beautiful”, “spirit animalis”, etc needs to be removed from the herd ... it is not a good trait from a strong sustainable population.
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Racist! :mad:
 
NCFubar said:
... it is not a good trait from a strong sustainable population.
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What do you mean by that part?
Maybe no action is necessary by any human because the problem should self correct?
Or is there more to it than that?
 
Catfish said:
What do you mean by that part?
Maybe no action is necessary by any human because the problem should self correct?
Or is there more to it than that?
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The deer population in areas of NC does self-correct but more and more areas are not. The areas where humans have moved in with large suburban areas especially and upset the self-correcting balance mainly residential areas where deer are not hunted or have a predator (except motor vehicles) to really thin out the herds. Years back hunters in the northern Durham Co, Person Co and Orange Co ( along with a little of Granville Co) kinda worked together to help strengthen the population around their general bordering lands. To this day I still think about what game I take ... I still have the cull mentality ... when I hunt to help with the future of deer in NC. In the past 10 years I have only taken 2 bucks and the rest does because I rather take does to cut the overpopulation in the areas I hunt. If I saw a piebald much less albino on any land I hunt it’s DRT and if the mother is with it she goes too.
 
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I understand what you're saying but what is it about the piebald mutation that is maladaptive?

In their new environment (coexisting with humans) I can think of a few ways it helps them. How does it hurt?

Not a hunter and not judging hunters, just trying to understand.
 
My thoughts started with the visibility issue, which would be a positive thing around motorists. But there definitely IS more to it. Thanks for the link. Here's what I wanted to learn:

Not only are piebald and albino deer highly visible to predators and hunters from the day they are born, they are often born with physical abnormalities such as arched spines, deformed hooves, shortened jaws, and short legs. Albino deer also often have vision deficiencies.
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Many years ago and in a land far away, the 1900s, the middle 70s as I remember it. I had the opportunity to go to a hunter's paradise. This hunting preserve was a combination of 3 Plantations outside of Monks Corner. S.C.
The 3 plantations were..Mepkin Abbey, Lewis Field, and Salt Point. Together they were magnificient. 19,000 acres on the Santee River. This place was under the total control of Senator Rembert Dennis. Now the old Senator was recognized as The Power House in Columbia. He was over the Ways and Means Committee and had been for decades. This old gent had a state helicopter pick him up from the morning hunt to go to Columbia to the football game. He was always returned in the afternoon for a washpot supper with the gathered huntsmen. This washpot [plenty big for 3 Grown men to get in] was put on the fire before daybreak. On the occasions I was there [2] there were a cadre of Game Wardens that would go in the early morning and return with a Hardee trailer mounded over with Ducks, a deer, a hog, a couple of turkeys. After all were dressed they went into the pot..with a big sack of onions, a bag of salt and a box of pepper. This would "mull" till all was off the bones. When the bones were dipped out a 25 pound sack of rice was poured in and stirred with a boat paddle. After an hour or so the gathering would have at it.
Much "beverage' was consumed and as the night wound down we all retreated to the Camp House. This was a 100+ year old Plantation home that had been converted to handle about 25 men for sleeping and resting and more "beverages". Now the inside of this place was decorated with every species of wild animal indigenous to S.C., mounted in all their natural glory and beautiful to look at.
The kicker is that every single one of them, deer, bear, squirrel, rabbit, possum, racoon, ALL were in their Albino state. Marvelous, I have often wondered what happened to that wonderous collection. That was another Time another Southern Paradise.
 
A few years ago I was driving down hwy 86 from Hillsborough to Chapel Hill, and I saw a piebald buck not far north of Carrboro. Just grazing on the side of the road. Nearly all white, aside from a darker stripe along his back. Wish I could have got a photo of it. It blew my mind when I saw it.
 
I have a solid black buck that beds in a pine thicket next to my land. I’ve seen it twice in the past few years. I told my wife after the first time I saw it, I didn’t know what it was and couldn’t really explain what it was; just what I saw. It was in the ditch just past my house and leaped into the pines as I was driving home that night and about to pull into my driveway.

A few weeks later my wife was coming home at dark and saw it. Same scenario. In the ditch, leaped into the woods as she was driving up.

I saw it once more last year. This time it didn’t take off like before. Just stood there for a minute. I stopped with my headlights shining on it and it looked at me for a bit then walked off into the pines.

Craziest damn thing I’ve seen out here. But I have yet to see it all this year. Not sure if the coyotes got it or just bad luck not catching it at the right time.
 
MikeDawg46L said:
I have a solid black buck that beds in a pine thicket next to my land. I’ve seen it twice in the past few years. I told my wife after the first time I saw it, I didn’t know what it was and couldn’t really explain what it was; just what I saw. It was in the ditch just past my house and leaped into the pines as I was driving home that night and about to pull into my driveway.

A few weeks later my wife was coming home at dark and saw it. Same scenario. In the ditch, leaped into the woods as she was driving up.

I saw it once more last year. This time it didn’t take off like before. Just stood there for a minute. I stopped with my headlights shining on it and it looked at me for a bit then walked off into the pines.

Craziest damn thing I’ve seen out here. But I have yet to see it all this year. Not sure if the coyotes got it or just bad luck not catching it at the right time.
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That is wild! I would have sworn it was a chupracabre!!
 
MikeDawg46L said:
I have a solid black buck that beds in a pine thicket next to my land. I’ve seen it twice in the past few years. I told my wife after the first time I saw it, I didn’t know what it was and couldn’t really explain what it was; just what I saw. It was in the ditch just past my house and leaped into the pines as I was driving home that night and about to pull into my driveway.

A few weeks later my wife was coming home at dark and saw it. Same scenario. In the ditch, leaped into the woods as she was driving up.

I saw it once more last year. This time it didn’t take off like before. Just stood there for a minute. I stopped with my headlights shining on it and it looked at me for a bit then walked off into the pines.

Craziest damn thing I’ve seen out here. But I have yet to see it all this year. Not sure if the coyotes got it or just bad luck not catching it at the right time.
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Melanin deer are more common near Texas from what I've heard. There is also a good sized population of piebald deer in Guilford County.
 
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