Hospitals said to be ordered to cremate all remains

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Anyone else hear this?
From family in MA, the husband of one of my SIL's was told they cannot claim the remains of his brother. Here was told that the hospital is cremating all remains i.c those who die in the hospital regardless the cause of death.
In this case the brother died from cancer.
Can't find anything in the way of official releases or news reports on this.
This order applies without regard to any religious prohibition on cremation.

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They implemented this in China, at least for a while, haven’t seen anything about it in the US.

Also, I doubt that many hospitals have the facilities to handle a significant number of cremations.

I suspect that what you’re hearing is mistaken.
 
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Hospitals don’t have crematoriums in them. At least the hospitals down here don’t. They still have to go through a funeral home
 
JimB said:
They implemented this in China, at least for a while, haven’t seen anything about it in the US.

Also, I doubt that many hospitals have the facilities to handle a significant number of cremations.

I suspect that what you’re hearing is mistaken.
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Nope. The brother of one of my SIL's wasn't allowed to take his brother's remains. He had died of cancer in the hospital. He was told that all remains were being cremated, not released to family. Not likely using in hospital facility but contacted services.
Their Christian sect provides cremation. But they were told that didn't matter.

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Burt Gummer said:
Hospitals don’t have crematoriums in them. At least the hospitals down here don’t. They still have to go through a funeral home
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Exactly. But the family want allowed to take the remains to a funeral home for transport back to PR for burial.

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Funerals are scams. The whole industry preys on the emotions of the families to up sell very expensive coffins, vaults and services. In many places, embalming isn't a legal requirement.

My mom was very specific in what she wanted. All in, including her grave marker was $2100, of which $1200 was for the actual cremation. The funeral home we started out with wouldn't go with what she wanted. Example, there was a $300 charge to "open the grave", layman's terms- dig a hole to put the urn in. We ditched the funeral guys, I contacted for the cremation, set up a memorial service at her Church and I personally dug her grave on the day of my wedding anniversary with a set of post hole diggers, hardest hole I ever dug.
 
fishgutzy said:
Nope. The brother of one of my SIL's wasn't allowed to take his brother's remains. He had died of cancer in the hospital. He was told that all remains were being cremated, not released to family. Not likely using in hospital facility but contacted services.
Their Christian sect provides cremation. But they were told that didn't matter.

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I believe that you believe, but I still think it most likely that something was miscommunicated somewhere up the line. If you really want to sort it out have an immediate family member send a certified letter to the hospital administrator asking for an official explanation about why the remains were cremated rather than being released to the family’s funeral home as per current law and custom. Let us know what he or she says.

I’d also be curious to know if the family was billed for the cremation.
 
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Id need more proof before I get fired up about this.
Not just a 'my SIL's brother said...'
 
Dave951 said:
Funerals are scams. The whole industry preys on the emotions of the families to up sell very expensive coffins, vaults and services. In many places, embalming isn't a legal requirement.

My mom was very specific in what she wanted. All in, including her grave marker was $2100, of which $1200 was for the actual cremation. The funeral home we started out with wouldn't go with what she wanted. Example, there was a $300 charge to "open the grave", layman's terms- dig a hole to put the urn in. We ditched the funeral guys, I contacted for the cremation, set up a memorial service at her Church and I personally dug her grave on the day of my wedding anniversary with a set of post hole diggers, hardest hole I ever dug.
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Dave I feel for you.

I was with my mom and aunt when we buried their brother, my uncle. The hole was dug. My dad had placed the ashes in a PVC container. A hole was dug and cement was placed in first. The vault next. Some more cement and finally his marker stone at ground level. Words were read through tears. Family hugged, we lingered and finally left.

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Dave951 said:
Funerals are scams. The whole industry preys on the emotions of the families to up sell very expensive coffins, vaults and services. In many places, embalming isn't a legal requirement.

My mom was very specific in what she wanted. All in, including her grave marker was $2100, of which $1200 was for the actual cremation. The funeral home we started out with wouldn't go with what she wanted. Example, there was a $300 charge to "open the grave", layman's terms- dig a hole to put the urn in. We ditched the funeral guys, I contacted for the cremation, set up a memorial service at her Church and I personally dug her grave on the day of my wedding anniversary with a set of post hole diggers, hardest hole I ever dug.
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We did the same for my grandfather and grandmother. I want similar minus the funerals.
 
Have Nancy Pelosi and the Hildabeast just walk through the bodies and the fires of Hell will consume the bodies.
 
Me. said:
I don’t believe the story, but I’m all for it.

As a planet, we really should rethink the long term storage of the dead. Cemeteries are a waste of space.

Burial made sense for health reasons a thousand years ago, and in times when there was no such thing as a city with nine million people in it.

My grandparents are in a graveyard in NYC. I’d be OK with the place being bulldozed and developed as apartments.

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When it was inevitable that my Dad wasn’t long for this world, I suggested cremation to my mom who I knew had always been against it for whatever reason. The cost for that vs a traditional funeral where they nickel and dime you for every penny they can get was exponentially less. Think $1500 with a nice urn vs upwards of 10,000 on the cheaper end by the time you buy the space, pay for opening and closing(the funeral home just passes on that cost but it’s never mentioned and is usually over $1k), and everything else they get you for. Cremation just makes damn good sense
 
My grandfather decided that he didn’t want any of those costs, he donated his body to science. We said goodbye at the nursing home and they wheeled him away. This left my grandmother in on of those 2 person slots in the mausoleum by herself for eternity, which probably doesn’t make her happy.
 
  1. I paid for mine back in 15 right after Mama died. She wanted nothing fancy so there was no embalmbing, viewing, visitation, family cars, etc etc. Just a vault (required by the county), and inexpensive casket and a graveside service. Still ran around $4K best I remember. I think the cremation thing is costing me $1300. In my shop is a Tim Horton's coffee can and a PVC "vault" with my name on it. All my son has to do is pull my stone up, dig a hole under it, drop me in and replace the stone. Done.
 
When my uncle passed, his ashes were divided into four cheap cardboard boxes. His wife and each of his three children got one. When they were ready, each of them took the ashes somewhere that was special to them (and him) and spread them..... I think the whole process was about $1200. I've told my family if something similar (cheap and simple) isn't done when I die, I'll come back and haunt them for eternity.
 
It's in my will to donate my body to science. Let the medical students have a laugh at my expense while I am watching them from above and hopefully able to play tricks on them.
 
Can't speak to that particular establishment but I prepaid for mine. The money is put into some kind of fund with the funeral home as the beneficiary or something. That way, they can make interest to cover increased costs as you keep living. Another good thing about the service I got was that no matter where you end up when the time comes the family just contacts the original funeral home and they transfer it to the local funeral home at the time to handle.
 
I've never much liked the idea of bodies being sealed away in vaults underground. Seems like a waste of space to me, and I find the things that happen to a sealed away body to be pretty disturbing too.

I've told my family and friends that when I go, I want to be cremated. I don't want a stone. Just take my ashes some place I like, and spread them out. Glacier park, the badlands of South Dakota, or the grand canyon. All three, if you feel adventurous.
 
grungewehr39 said:
I've always wanted to be donated to that forensic farm.
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The one at the university of Tennessee is so damn cool. I've been able to get an in depth tour of that place. Its actually situated under the bleachers of the football field we actually have a member here that has internal knowledge of that place.

I actually have a space there when I kick the bucket. With all I've had going on in the last 6 years and being a case study for them and several hospitals with helping to get a new surgery .Gov approval. @Kokopelli
 
bigfelipe said:
I'd like someone to dig a hole and dump my body in it without a casket or embalming. Fill it in and plant a tree... Maybe a Banyan tree...
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^^this^^
Don’t need anything else.
 
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