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I have been hunting with dogs in some form most of my life. Can’t ever remember not having beagles, and have had several squirrel dogs as well. Saw the rise in hog dogs in SC. This right here is pretty cool, to me, but I’ve never heard of nor seen anything like this. I’ve been to several fox pens and what not, but to just run them down with sheer speed…and I had no idea Greyhounds were this aggressive.

 
Dayum! Sorry punk ass SOB teenagers driving across people’s fields in their daddy’s trucks and pulling a latch to release the dogs ? WTF? That’s nothing but some brutal blood game. Grow up and just shoot the ‘yotes.
 
Why not allow the greyhounds to do what they were bred for & eliminate some non native vermin? Howzzat all that different from using catch dogs on pigs?
 
Crazy Carl said:
Why not allow the greyhounds to do what they were bred for & eliminate some non native vermin? Howzzat all that different from using catch dogs on pigs?
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for me, what bothers me is that it's a size thing. i think. none of those dogs are big enough to kill the coyotes quickly, even with 4 on 1.
put a greyhound on a bunny, and it will snap the bunny's neck in seconds... same thing with terriers and rats. shoot, i even had a chihuahua that kept bringing in limbs of squirrels and rabbits.

but those coyotes probably deserve a death that's a bit quicker and cleaner.
 
You guys acting like yotes are humane. That is exactly what they would do to a deer given the chance. Or turkeys. Or pets. Got a hard time worrying about it. You can't kill enough of them to keep them in check.

Any of you guys got a problem with farmers using donkeys to kill them?
 
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chiefjason said:
You guys acting like yotes are humane. That is exactly what they would do to a deer given the chance. Or turkeys. Or pets. Got a hard time worrying about it. You can't kill enough of them to keep them in check.

Any of you guys got a problem with farmers using donkeys to kill them?
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Somewhere online is game cam footage of a pack of coyotes killing a large buck. They wear him down all night before he finally collapses and they start eating him alive. It takes hours.
 
If you have has ever seen what a pack of coyote’s do to a deer, calf, goat or any other animal, how can you debate the humanity of controlling their population? Don’t worry too much, I’m sure this will soon be a banned practice as well.
 
chiefjason said:
You guys acting like yotes are humane. That is exactly what they would do to a deer given the chance. Or turkeys. Or pets. Got a hard time worrying about it. You can't kill enough of them to keep them in check.

Any of you guys got a problem with farmers using donkeys to kill them?
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Exactly! Nature is not humane. Some of you guys need a reality check.
 
It’s what every predatory pack animal does to prey in nature. Doesn’t mean that I believe they should be mauled down by a pack of dogs released by a “hunter” sitting in a truck for sport. Not an ethical kill far as I’m concerned. If your going to put an animal down put it down, quick.

I don’t like bull/bear/boar baiting either.

As to donkeys, never seen someone release a pack of donkeys roadside on a yote. I’d take issue with that as well. /s

LSGs have a job, be it a donkey or a GP they protect a flock/heard from predators when the farmer cannot be there. Two totally different things.
 
chiefjason said:
You guys acting like yotes are humane. That is exactly what they would do to a deer given the chance. Or turkeys. Or pets. Got a hard time worrying about it. You can't kill enough of them to keep them in check.

Any of you guys got a problem with farmers using donkeys to kill them?
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But humans are supposed to show some form of dignity.
Coyotes can’t knock a deer on the head and throw it in the smoker.

They have no hands, no knives, only teeth.

They have to eat like any other animal.

If it wasn’t for liberals animals could be kept in check. Fur could used for good purposes and not looked down upon.

Having a pack of dogs tear a smaller animal limb from limb, instigated by a human, is not something to be proud of.

If this was dog on dog, there are quite a few here that would be shedding tears.

There are right ways and some not so right, this falls into that latter category.
 
I have livestock. I had 3 coyotes in with my goats one morning at the break of day. Yotes had 3 of the goats on the ground. Ran, tore and bit on the goats until they dropped.

The oldest goat was being eaten alive by the coyotes. He was probably the first to drop. Goat couldn’t move and was moaning in agony.

The other three goats on the ground were chewed up so bad with ears, lips, noses, eyes, intestines hanging loose with large bites and rips in their stomach areas. I ended up shooting the four goats to put them down.

My other 6 goats that morning were in a separate lot unharmed.

Perhaps I’ve seen what coyotes can do more than most folks have.
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Dogs of all breeds are, by definition, not humane in their killings simply because they're not human in the first place.

An aunt/uncle of mine had a dog (Snoopy) who could flat out out-run rabbits all day long. He LOVED running...never got tired of chasing a tennis ball or frisbee. He would chase a rabbit until the rabbit could no longer run any more because it was exhausted.

And then...he'd eat it.

Not kill and eat it...he'd just start eating and the rabbit couldn't do a thing to resist.

Cats will often play with their food to the death and then eat it. And that's a maybe...sometimes they'll just play until the critter is dead and leave it from there.

In general, I'm all about humane killing when hunting, whether food or varmints. But there are plenty of times where I just don't give a cr*p.

That copperhead in the road in front of our house? I don't care if I have to run over it 20 times to finally kill it.

A dog that threatens my kids? I don't give a damn if I have to beat it to death with a shovel.

Destructive animals on my uncle's farm in Kentucky when I was younger? A head shot is nice, but if I blew a rear leg off a predator to protect his livestock, well too bad.

How many people here think those outdoor dogs farmers have just sit around all day waiting to be fed kibble? Nope. They're out there doing what dogs do, and it ain't all sunshine and cuddles.
 
Tailhunter said:
But humans are supposed to show some form of dignity.
Coyotes can’t knock a deer on the head and throw it in the smoker.

They have no hands, no knives, only teeth.

They have to eat like any other animal.

If it wasn’t for liberals animals could be kept in check. Fur could used for good purposes and not looked down upon.

Having a pack of dogs tear a smaller animal limb from limb, instigated by a human, is not something to be proud of.

If this was dog on dog, there are quite a few here that would be shedding tears.

There are right ways and some not so right, this falls into that latter category.
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You can't control coyotes, in part because of their breeding cycle. They change litter size based on prey availability. You can't hunt them hard enough in the presence of enough prey to support the packs.

So catching an animal and holding it in position until you can check the trap and dispatch it is good though? Hunting is a blood sport, period. You may like or dislike how some folks spill that blood. But you are spilling it too, and in a way some folks find just as inhumane.

You want to trap to produce a product, fur. Fine. They want to hunt to produce an outcome, attempting to check the population.

My give a crap meter is empty on this one. I'd be curious to know what the local farmers think instead of some mostly city folks on a computer in NC.
 
Traps get checked every morning early. A lot of the times the animals are asleep.
Yotes catch a .22 short to the lungs. No violence, just lay down and expire.

I realize that some people have a hate for coyotes and enjoy seeing them ripped apart. To me it is such a waste.
The fur can be used to make many usable items.
The population will never be totally controlled but it can be thinned in areas that are trapped and or hunted.

When the world finally ceases to exit, the only things left will be coyotes and cockroaches.
 
My grandfather raised beef cattle & I don't know a cow farmer in this corner of the state who'd have a problem with this method of coyote control. Yeah, it's grisly & horrifying & all that, but as mentioned above, no different than what coyotes do to their prey.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Dogs of all breeds are, by definition, not humane in their killings simply because they're not human in the first place.

An aunt/uncle of mine had a dog (Snoopy) who could flat out out-run rabbits all day long. He LOVED running...never got tired of chasing a tennis ball or frisbee. He would chase a rabbit until the rabbit could no longer run any more because it was exhausted.

And then...he'd eat it.

Not kill and eat it...he'd just start eating and the rabbit couldn't do a thing to resist.

Cats will often play with their food to the death and then eat it. And that's a maybe...sometimes they'll just play until the critter is dead and leave it from there.

In general, I'm all about humane killing when hunting, whether food or varmints. But there are plenty of times where I just don't give a cr*p.

That copperhead in the road in front of our house? I don't care if I have to run over it 20 times to finally kill it.

A dog that threatens my kids? I don't give a damn if I have to beat it to death with a shovel.

Destructive animals on my uncle's farm in Kentucky when I was younger? A head shot is nice, but if I blew a rear leg off a predator to protect his livestock, well too bad.

How many people here think those outdoor dogs farmers have just sit around all day waiting to be fed kibble? Nope. They're out there doing what dogs do, and it ain't all sunshine and cuddles.
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Just call the wildlife department or the sheriff’s office and ask them what you should do to a dog that is allowed to roam freely and chase wildlife.
 
Cocked & Locked said:
I have livestock. I had 3 coyotes in with my goats one morning at the break of day. Yotes had 3 of the goats on the ground. Ran, tore and bit on the goats until they dropped.

The oldest goat was being eaten alive by the coyotes. He was probably the first to drop. Goat couldn’t move and was moaning in agony.

The other three goats on the ground were chewed up so bad with ears, lips, noses, eyes, intestines hanging loose with large bites and rips in their stomach areas. I ended up shooting the four goats to put them down.

My other 6 goats that morning were in a separate lot unharmed.

Perhaps I’ve seen what coyotes can do more than most folks have.
12 gauge and .257 Roberts on standby.

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Good thing about traps are they hunt 24/7.
 
Cocked & Locked said:
Dayum! Sorry punk ass SOB teenagers driving across people’s fields in their daddy’s trucks and pulling a latch to release the dogs ? WTF? That’s nothing but some brutal blood game. Grow up and just shoot the ‘yotes.
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In the beginning of the video he said that his dad was there and already got one. So it’s not just a punk teenager.

Like you said. Nothing but a blood sport. There are more efficient and humane ways to get rid of yotes.
 
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Having lost livestock and chickens to coyotes and foxes, I don't have the first problem with what they are doing. I just don't agree with making a video for everyone to see it happen. We trap and shoot every predator on our place now and will continue to do so until I can be convinced the coyotes and foxes are beneficial to me....which will probably be never.
 
chocolate lab84 said:
Having lost livestock and chickens to coyotes and foxes, I don't have the first problem with what they are doing. I just don't agree with making a video for everyone to see it happen. We trap and shoot every predator on our place now and will continue to do so until I can be convinced the coyotes and foxes are beneficial to me....which will probably be never.
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nobody's saying you shouldn't.
many are saying that's a better way
 
NKD said:
I feel like there are more efficient ways to eradicate coyotes, and this seems to be a hobby for fun.

Not losing sleep over it, but definitely not my cup of tea.
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I agree. Coyotes are not just a nuisance, but a threat. They're also viscous when they kill. Consequently, I won't lose sleep over them dying. In fact, I wish the ones around here would. I also agree that they were doing this for fun and that there are better ways.
 
Cocked & Locked said:
Hog and bear hunters get out of their truck and follow the hounds. The hunter kills the hog/bear. The dogs don’t.
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You've never done it much, huh? I've seen both bears (cubs) and hogs of all sizes killed by dogs more times than I can count. It's just part of what happens when a pack of dogs hunts. Large pigs will attempt to run through a bunch of shoats to get the dogs off their heels if they get a chance.
 
Damn, everybody worried about the nasty coyote. I think most are freaking out because it feels like a dog fighting match. You are the ones with no outdoor experience at all, only what you’ve heard about or read. I’m not about an animal suffering myself, but (IMO) a coyote hasn’t ever earned that right, and never will, because of who and what they are. I respect the hell out of them, but these greyhounds are out predating the predator, and while I think it’s ok, in this video, I could care less about the coyote (obviously).Those greyhounds doing what they were bred to do, probably love to do and excelling at it are the gist for me.

I love dogs, more than people. I love to hunt with dogs. My greatest passion is running a rabbit with a beagle, and coyotes have had a negative impact on that sport in the last 20 years, we can argue that point all day. I would try to not hit a coyote with my truck, but when he gets beat at his own game, I got no problem with it at all. Some of y’all do, and that fine too. The world’s gonna keep spinning.
 
slow is slow said:
You've never done it much, huh? I've seen both bears (cubs) and hogs of all sizes killed by dogs more times than I can count. It's just part of what happens when a pack of dogs hunts. Large pigs will attempt to run through a bunch of shoats to get the dogs off their heels if they get a chance.
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Exactly.

This is why I've always said one dog running around by itself is a stray, two or more is a pack and is dangerous.
 
SimpleMan said:
I have been hunting with dogs in some form most of my life. Can’t ever remember not having beagles, and have had several squirrel dogs as well. Saw the rise in hog dogs in SC. This right here is pretty cool, to me, but I’ve never heard of nor seen anything like this. I’ve been to several fox pens and what not, but to just run them down with sheer speed…and I had no idea Greyhounds were this aggressive.

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That's like Usain Bolt chasing one of us..... LOL.

If this catches on, will be great for all the Greyhound Race Track rejected dogs... (If the adoption bureaucracy doesn't deny as they deem this offensive)
 
VA_GENTLEMAN said:
That's like Usain Bolt chasing one of us..... LOL.

If this catches on, will be great for all the Greyhound Race Track rejected dogs... (If the adoption bureaucracy doesn't deny as they deem this offensive)
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I think this has been going on a while, it’s just in the Midwest where it’s flat and open. The greyhounds wouldn’t have a chance in the eastern US.
 
cubrock said:
Somewhere online is game cam footage of a pack of coyotes killing a large buck. They wear him down all night before he finally collapses and they start eating him alive. It takes hours.
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I got to witness this live one evening. It wasn't a buck but a yearling. And when I say witness it was mostly sounds. I was hunting a fenceline between big woods behind me and year old clear cut in front of me. The regrowth of the clear cut meant I was mostly watching brush move as the coyotes circled in on the deer. Once they got it down it took a long time dying.

When I got down out of the treestand at dusk, about an hour after all that went down, I slung the bolt action rifle and drew my flashlight and handgun. I didn't want to be dessert.
 
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