Interesting problem at Cherokee Guns in Murphy, NC

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I would look at it different if the guy selling the rifle had walked OUT of the store.
Regaurdless, I would ask the buyer not to do business at my store anymore but calling him a thief is stretching it a little. Bad form on the buyer parts, YES. I wouldnt call him dead meat on a public forum for damn sure. The LGS is in business to make money, what they would have offered the guy some word consider that Thievery . The guy may have been selling to but crack or may have been put out of work by the Rona. Maybe he needed every pennie he could get.
The LGS sounds like he more into money than he is the 2a. I wouldn’t do business with them because of his ridiculous outburst.
Buyer should have had the Decency to make the transaction off the LGS Premises
 
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Majicmike said:
I would look at it different if the guy selling the rifle had walked OUT of the store.
Regaurdless, I would ask the buyer not to do business at my store anymore but calling him a thief is stretching it a little. Bad form on the buyer parts, YES. I wouldnt call him dead meat on a public forum for damn sure. The LGS is in business to make money, what they would have offered the guy some word consider that Thievery . The guy may have been selling to but crack or may have been put out of work by the Rona. Maybe he needed every pennie he could get.
The LGS sounds like he more into money than he is the 2a. I wouldn’t do business with them because of his ridiculous outburst.
Buyer should have had the Decency to make the transaction off the LGS Premises
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I think the business owner should be a hell of a lot more worried about libel than being charged with communicating threats. That would be a real winner for an attorney working on commission.
 
How was the guy leaving supposed to know the guy with the gun had already made a deal with the gun store?

In my mind the guy selling was the one in the wrong, if he broke his deal with the gun store. I guess if it was an out of state deal it was a bad idea but if both parties were from the same state I don’t see anything wrong with the buyer striking up conversation and buying a gun.
 
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charliesgrave said:
Suck it up buttercup. Free market at work.
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Except the free market in this case allowed for *illegal activity to take place on his property, assuming the “TN tags” comment is true.

ETA: *potentially
 
BigWaylon said:
Except the free market in this case allowed for illegal activity to take place on his property, assuming the “TN tags” comment is true.
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Just because someone is driving a car with out of state tags doesn't mean that they're out of state. It could be a rental car, belong to a relative, or even be registered to a non primary address. Regardless, even if it was an "illegal" sale it is on the buyer and probably this side of impossible to catch anyway (not that I think the "law" against it is valid).

I also don't think the store has any dibs on the sale, especially in the parking lot. It may have been a bit rude on the part of the guy who bought the gun but the store owner sounds like a complete douche nozzle and based upon this interaction wouldn't shop there.

For some odd reason, gun store owners seem to get a swelled head and a bad attitude. No wonder so many of them go out of business.
 
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BigWaylon said:
Except the free market in this case allowed for illegal activity to take place on his property, assuming the “TN tags” comment is true.
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You know what the say about assuming..

What I've seen so far if this would turn me off to doing business with Cherokee, but they aren't in my AO so it really doesn't matter.
Doc is acting like a little bitch though, in my opinion
 
Penhooking is frowned upon.

Is it stealing, I don’t think you can call it that.

And he never actually made it into the store, now that would have been bad for sure.

Leaving the store that gun is fair game.
 
I was living in NH and posted a shotgun on Armslist. Buyer drove up in a car with Colorado plates but showed me a NH drivers license. Sold. No statutes broken despite those statutes criminalizing an activity declared by the Constitution to be a right. Wasn't a hill to die on that day at least.
 
my car still has MI tags because i renewed them for the year 2 months before moving down here. I can't get a refund so...
I'll be registering in NC soon.
but yeah, NC house, NC license, NC job... license plate doesn't mean much

and yeah, it's bad manners to snipe a sale like that, but it's not theft.
I had friends run stores where they bought stuff from people - they asked me not to buy out from under them (naturally) but if they had a final price and the seller wasn't taking it, they didn't care if I stepped in and offered more then.

If you're not my friend and i see a guy in your parking lot with something i want... I'd probably do the same thing and ask how much he'd let it go for.
 
I had an ex brother in law that lived in Dunn. When he would hear about guys from Bragg going on deployment he would ride to Fayetteville and stake out the pawn shops. He got all kinds of deals on guns. This was back in the '80's.
 
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Awful pretentious of the store owner thinking the seller would accept his (lowball) offer... I've never thought any gun store offer was good and I've had and heard a lot of them.

Did the seller talk to the store owner beforehand and a "buy" offer or deal made?

If not, then too bad.
 
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rdinatal said:
Awful pretentious of the store owner thinking the seller would accept his (lowball) offer... I've never thought any gun store offer was good and I've had and heard a lot of them.

Did the seller talk to the store owner beforehand and a "buy" offer or deal made?

If not, then too bad.
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It really doesn't even matter if the offer was made and accepted. did money change hands?
that's what matters. and even then, it's not the kid's fault.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
It really doesn't even matter if the offer was made and accepted. did money change hands?
that's what matters. and even then, it's not the kid's fault.
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I'm confused then... Why is there a rule #4 in the BST section if an agreement doesn't matter?

4. If you agree to a price, time and location, your word is your bond. Almost without exception, people acting in good faith are able to reach accommodation and achieve a positive transaction even if someone's car breaks down. HOWEVER - staff will not hesitate to take punitive measures (including temporary or permanent site ban) for not honoring your word. If you don't know what it means to keep your word, do not post in the classifieds.
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Kinda funny the guy asks if anyone knows how to get ahold of Doc.Hell you know where the store is and the phone number is readily available.
 
Just went to check on the store Facebook page, it appears to be gone.
 
rdinatal said:
Awful pretentious of the store owner thinking the seller would accept his (lowball) offer... I've never thought any gun store offer was good and I've had and heard a lot of them.

Did the seller talk to the store owner beforehand and a "buy" offer or deal made?

If not, then too bad.
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Just telling you from experience working in a gun shop, its bad juju.
 
Could be a company car, my neighbor had a new car every two years on lease, Indiana tags.
 
Some of Doc's comments on Yelp are pretty funny.
 
I can see it as being rude, after the fact. But I can also see someone not seeing the big deal and getting excited about finding a gun they want and stopping the guy.

So yeah, perhaps a bit of a faux pas to grab it up in a parking lot. No doubt.

But the >real< puzzling thing is how a business owner who has to know how word of mouth can impact his business would make such a stink over what would ultimately be no more than a few bucks profit. Think of the good press he could have gotten just by saying “hey guys, grabbing people on the way in to sell stuff is a bit rude, but glad you got a gun you wanted! Come on back in and stock up on some .22lr, a new case for it, and tell your buddies to come check out our stock! Happy 2A all!”


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Every LGS owner gets upset when someone stops people heading into the store to sell a gun, and buys that gun in the parking lot. You are supposed to wait until the store owner fails to make a deal, and talk to the fellow after he leaves. Even then, you shouldn't do it in the store parking lot. Goto WalMart, sheesh!

But tattling to the BATFU... tha's bad juju too... jus' sayin!
 
MacEntyre said:
Every LGS owner gets upset when someone stops people heading into the store to sell a gun, and buys that gun in the parking lot. You are supposed to wait until the store owner fails to make a deal, and talk to the fellow after he leaves. Even then, you shouldn't do it in the store parking lot. Goto WalMart, sheesh!

But tattling to the BATFU... tha's bad juju too... jus' sayin!
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Yeah what every gun store needs to stay in business.
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Symantics, but I always heard it as pin hooking. And it usually mean someone buying something to turn a quick profit. An example would be to catch someone arriving at arriving at a market, buying all their goods, turning around and selling the same goods for more in the market. Opportunistic profit making.

Anyway, unless the seller had a pre-arranged deal for a transaction, I say free market. I probably wouldn't do business with Cherokee if I were up that way.

Apparently, the owner is a fairly well known heavy metal drummer, according to wiki...
 
I always keep my ears open to the deals going on around me when at a car dealer hoping to snag someone’s trade they’re about to get screwed on. That’s not really appreciated either.
 
I saw this posted on a CZ Scorpion group on fb, it’s definitely making its rounds.

Based on those posts, the guy at Cherokee Guns is an absolute fool! Theft is a crime, that wasn’t theft, not even close. You can argue what happened was improper and goes against common decency, but that doesn’t warrant the type of response that occurred.

Cherokee offered an unsatisfactorily low price, seller declined, other customer inquired about it on the sellers way out the door, they struck a deal, it’s a win for the buyer & seller. Cherokee is being a whiny little female dog because they didn’t get a piece of it.
 
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