Joe Biden’s Gun Agenda Could Cost AR-15 Owners $3.6 Billion in Taxes for Guns They Already Own

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Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden’s proposed gun control policy includes a provision that could require every AR-15 rifle be registered under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Unless there were some form of carve-out, this could mandate that American gun owners pay a $200 federal tax per AR-15 that they own. The National Rifle Association’s Andrew Arulanandam told Breitbart News that the current “low end” estimate of privately-owned AR-15s in the United States is 18 million. A tax of $200 on 18 million AR-15s means that gun owners could potentially be required to a pay a collective $3.6 billion in taxes, if this policy were enacted into legislation.

In addition to the $200 tax, owners of guns that are deemed “assault weapons,” under Biden’s view of the NFA, could also be required to register these weapons with federal authorities, submit their finger prints and photograph, and potentially submit to an FBI background check.

All of this is detailed on Biden’s campaign website, which states in bullet-point form (emphasis in original):


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...6-billion-in-taxes-for-guns-they-already-own/


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How many years would it take the ATF to process all the Form 3’s that would require? Say owners did file for 10% of all AR’s in the country (I’m just pulling a percentage). IF the ATF by some miracle was able to process 1,000 Form 4’s per day (all who have submitted Form 1’s & 4’s are likely on the floor laughing at that number per day now) it would take almost 7 years (assuming 260 work days per year) to complete all Form 4 paperwork just for existing AR’s ... then you have to add AK’s and the other firearms that would fall under the term “assault weapon” so add at least a couple more years of forms ... and that’s assuming just 10% of current owners file 10 years of pure paper pushing would easily result. I ain’t the sharpest person so I gotta assume at least a couple of ATF bureaucrats have thought of the load and tried to point this out to Slo Joe & Co ...
 
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Not that there's a snowball's chance of this ever happening anyway... but every other similar regulation in the past has grandfathered in existing guns.

Doesn't matter though because no Congress would ever pass this law. The next election would be absolute destruction and they know it. The policy statement is a milksop to single issue gun-control voters.
 
PbAsHg said:
Not that there's a snowball's chance of this ever happening anyway... but every other similar regulation in the past has grandfathered in existing guns.

Doesn't matter though because no Congress would ever pass this law. The next election would be absolute destruction and they know it. The policy statement is a milksop to single issue gun-control voters.
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You do realize that california actually passed gun requirements that are impossible to comply with, and the court let it stand all the way up through the CA SC, right?
The democrats are basically in lock step over this. Dems who don't side with them will be ruined and have funding denied until they become ineffective and are voted out. Stick with them and even if you get voted out, they have the money to keep you wealthy and in power somewhere.
 
Looks like that boating accident saved me money after all!!

If they so "dangerous" and "scary" now, what percentage of scariness and dangerousness and "weapon of war-ness" is removed by paying the $200 tax?
 
DrScaryGuy said:
You do realize that california actually passed gun requirements that are impossible to comply with, and the court let it stand all the way up through the CA SC, right?
The democrats are basically in lock step over this. Dems who don't side with them will be ruined and have funding denied until they become ineffective and are voted out. Stick with them and even if you get voted out, they have the money to keep you wealthy and in power somewhere.
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People said Obama was going to do the same... 8 years later and nobody took any of my guns away. I think y'all are getting riled over an aspirational policy statement that's put in as red meat for single issue voters which will never see the light of day. Anyway that's just my 2¢, everybody gets an opinion right...
 
PbAsHg said:
People said Obama was going to do the same... 8 years later and nobody took any of my guns away. I think y'all are getting riled over an aspirational policy statement that's put in as red meat for single issue voters which will never see the light of day. Anyway that's just my 2¢, everybody gets an opinion right...
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Dont you go trying to ruin my fantasies.
 
elirab said:
I'm surprised no one mentioned the 'Holding Gun Manufacturers Accountable' section.

Do you think this has a chance of passing?
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I believe some court somewhere just said the protection of the gun companies from shooting victims’ families is unconstitutional.
 
They want to kill one of the oldest legitimate American industries, the Firearms industry. Good paying US jobs, quality USA made products (for the most part) and all the associated suppliers and distributors. I hope they will never succeed in their disarm America agenda.

We have seen what the 'don't worry, I'll get you a settlement' lawyers have done to not only firearms companies but look at the BLITZ gas container company, they won all the lawsuits but could not afford to stay in business due to legal bills. They shut the doors.
Porsche also in lawsuit from the Paul Walker speeding death crash, did a deal to end it.
 
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Button Pusher said:
I hope these activist Judges get their head handed to them once this crap goes to the SCOTUS. One Judge can not rule for the entire country.
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they can until somebody smacks them on the nose for it. SCotUS hasn't been doing that for a looong time when it comes to the 2A
 
PbAsHg said:
Not that there's a snowball's chance of this ever happening anyway... but every other similar regulation in the past has grandfathered in existing guns.

Doesn't matter though because no Congress would ever pass this law. The next election would be absolute destruction and they know it. The policy statement is a milksop to single issue gun-control voters.
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I would like to think you are right, but this isn't the Democrat party of even 4 years ago. They have been completely taken over by the lunatic left. The few old guard still in power (like Schumer and Pelosi) know they have to toe the line of the loony left agenda if they want to keep their jobs. The left knows their agenda for complete takeover of the country isn't possible if we the people retain the means of resistance. That's why they are so afraid of the RTKABA. When Biden says he will appoint some damn fool like Pendejo O'Rourke as "gun czar", and he says his objective is to disarm American citizens (not their inner city supporters, of course), we would be idiots not to believe them. I hope you are right and I am wrong, but I know where I'm placing my bets.
 
PbAsHg said:
People said Obama was going to do the same... 8 years later and nobody took any of my guns away. I think y'all are getting riled over an aspirational policy statement that's put in as red meat for single issue voters which will never see the light of day. Anyway that's just my 2¢, everybody gets an opinion right...
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Difference is 8 years ago the left was not even close to as extreme as they are today.
 
The gun grabbers will keep pushing their agenda until some gun owner has had enough. That will be the tipping point. The second amendment will be exercised against the tyrants. The extremist, career politicians, suppressing the citizens will have their term limited.
It’s going to happen sooner or later. Somebody is going to start publishing names and addresses Of politicians and their associates. Killings will start. Imho
 
Leadchunker said:
The gun grabbers will keep pushing their agenda until some gun owner has had enough. That will be the tipping point. The second amendment will be exercised against the tyrants. The extremist, career politicians, suppressing the citizens will have their term limited.
It’s going to happen sooner or later. Somebody is going to start publishing names and addresses Of politicians and their associates. Killings will start. Imho
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Closest thing I have seen to a tipping point was at the Bundy ranch. I don't have faith that there will be push back but it seems gun owners are really at accepting every kind of infringement the gov can pile on.
 
NC Rob said:
Closest thing I have seen to a tipping point was at the Bundy ranch. I don't have faith that there will be push back but it seems gun owners are really at accepting every kind of infringement the gov can pile on.
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The vast majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens. That's why gun control laws don't accomplish their 'stated' goals, but generally have motives different then what their proponents say publicly.
 
Law abiding citizens? We obviously don't have law abiding politicians.

From: https://patriots4truth.org/2018/03/27/all-laws-must-comply-with-the-constitution-or-they-are-void/

“A law repugnant to the Constitution is void. An act of Congress repugnant to the Constitution cannot become a law. The Constitution supersedes all other laws and the individual’s rights shall be liberally enforced in favor of him, the clearly intended and expressly designated beneficiary.” –Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)

“An unconstitutional law is void and is as no law. An offense created by it is not crime. A conviction under it is not merely erroneous but isillegal and void and cannot be used as a legal cause of imprisonment.” – Ex parte Siebold, 100 U.S. 371 (1879)

“An unconstitutional act is not law. It confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office. It is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.” – Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425 (1886)

“Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them.” –Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966)

“No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it. The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, whether federal or state, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose, since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW, in legal contemplation, IS AS INOPERATIVE AS IF IT HAD NEVER BEEN PASSED.“ – 16 American Jurisprudence 2d, Sec. 256
 
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