Judge rules bumpstock owners can’t be compensated for property

“Senior Circuit Judge Loren A. Smith found that the government's rule fell within a common exception to the Fifth Amendment: property that is confiscated to advance the government's interest in promoting public safety.”

I missed the exceptions to the 5th.....where can I find them?

Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
 
But I thought judges wouldnt uphold this and it was all a ploy by T?

A ploy? A PLOY?!!!!!

This is Trump we’re talking about. He doesn’t do “ploys”....

It’s 4D chess and so far above our comprehension, we couldn’t possibly understand.
 
I didn't turn in my bump stock.
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They go home sometime. They probably go out to eat and shop too. Maybe they need to be treated like Trump supporters and Trump Press Secretary’s while they are in public.
From Wiki, “He is married to the former Catherine (Kitty) Yore BJ; two sons, Loren Jr. and Adam (1980–1997). Judge Smith is an amateur magician. One of his signature tricks involves a magic coloring book.”
“In 2007, Judge Smith traveled to Thailand to advise the writers of the new Thai constitution.” :eek:
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I’d love to see someone snatch his magic coloring book, then inform him he’s not entitled to compensation.
 
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“Senior Circuit Judge Loren A. Smith found that the government's rule fell within a common exception to the Fifth Amendment: property that is confiscated to advance the government's interest in promoting public safety.”

I missed the exceptions to the 5th.....where can I find them?

Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

"nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation"

The law and courts recognize a difference between private property and contraband. Drug dealers are not compensated when illegal drugs are seized.
 
"The law is different in this case because the government, as the sovereign, has the power to take property that is dangerous, diseased, or used in criminal activities without compensation," Smith wrote.
So our federal servant government are the sovereigns...not We The People?
When did this happen?
"When in the course of human events, a government becomes destructive to these ends..."
You guys know the rest of the story.
 
"The law is different in this case because the government, as the sovereign, has the power to take property that is dangerous, diseased, or used in criminal activities without compensation," Smith wrote.
So our federal servant government are the sovereigns...not We The People?
When did this happen?
"When in the course of human events, a government becomes destructive to these ends..."
You guys know the rest of the story.

By that definition they can take all guns without compensation...
 
"The law is different in this case because the government, as the sovereign, has the power to take property that is dangerous, diseased, or used in criminal activities without compensation," Smith wrote.


Selective enforcement?

Subjective enforcement?

29-year-old Sayfullo Saipov attacked people in New York with Rented Property that became Dangerous.

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This was a comment from a thread on a You Tube video. It rang so true to me, I had to get a pencil and paper, and write it down.

Personal sovereignty. A concept most present day Americans cannot conceive. They argue national sovereignty yet have no clue about personal sovereignty.

"...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects...with no one to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty." CHISHOLM v. GEORGIA (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @ DALL 1793 pp 471-472

SERVED OTHER GODS
1 samual 8:8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.

I've listened to the hords of many across the globe. Speak of contempt toward America. Yet upon contemplation of any inch of real estate upon this earth. People living with their false gods of idolatry, Buddhist, Hinduism, Muslim, godless atheism, pagan Catholicism, and yes the Jews who rejected their Messiah.
I see a world that has flatly rejected God in every form. Yet the only nation that broke the yoke of satans feudalism. Is the topic of scorn and rebuke. Yes has lost her way. Allowed the scurge of godless liberalism to curse her. And Christians fighting to retain her glorious state. What absurd arguments one hears in rooting for her demise. At which an antichrist system will rise. Joining the ranks of a world awaiting in their destitution.

WE HAVE NO KING BUT JESUS

Notice the warning of serving other gods, meant to be a warning. Yet a generation so lost. The warnings below are but a tiny fraction as to what is experienced today. Amazing what a coveting belly overlooks to gain a seat at the D.C. pig trough.

1 Samuel 8:10 And Samuel told all the words of the Lord unto the people that asked of him a king.
11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.
12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.
13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.
14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.
15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give them to his officers, and his servants.
16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants
18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that day.
 
By that definition they can take all guns without compensation...

Sure - just find a way around the Second Amendment, then pass a law making the possession of any gun illegal and no compensation would be due when the contraband guns were seized.
 
Sure - just find a way around the Second Amendment, then pass a law making the possession of any gun illegal and no compensation would be due when the contraband guns were seized.
Oh....it's coming....it's coming. Only a matter of time. I hope I am alive to see who will stand up. Everybody knows All of the problems. Everybody have no trouble pointing out the Constitutional amendments that Protect us. When these Protections are ignored, pushed aside, Reinterpreted , and abolished for more government control as this judge says their Sovereign duty to lord over us, what then or ever will be done?
 
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