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  1. Zbizzle911

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    Well yesterday I started the keto diet. Going to give it a go for a few months and see how it is. Tired of being fat lol. Anyone else do it? Got any tips?


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    It works! I've done very well with it, lost a lot of weight and OFF insulin. I've also fell of the wagon a couple times, I blame my wife, she won't get onboard with me and drags me done. Currently on the wagon about a month, plateaued at 15lbs lost, plateus happen.
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    https://livinlavidalowcarb.com family of sites.
    Book, Keto Clarity by Jimmy Moore
    Book, The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz


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    Lost 40 lbs. which was too much in reality. Can’t do it seriously right now but still stay low carb. I’m still down 10-15 from my starting weight.

    If you really want to loose get an exercise routine too.

    And personally, I don’t see Keto as a long term diet. Just a boost to get the weight off. Then I started moderating things to see what I can eat and what I need to stay away from. I mostly stay away from bread, pasta, and most rice now. But not so strict that I avoid it entirely. Just not eating it daily or multiple times a week.


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    Keto works the same way any diet works (by necessity), you eat at a caloric surplus. Keto's mechanism for making this happen just happens to be removing an entire macronutrient. I did it for a while and it does work but I honestly prefer just counting calories, I need my carbs. Good luck with your journey!
     
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    I've been doing keto for right at a year now.

    So far I've lost 62 pounds by ONLY changing what and how I eat.

    I was able to drop both (high) blood pressure meds (with my doctor's blessing) that I had been taking for 4 years.

    I also was able to drop my once daily heartburn pill (prilosec) and no longer have any issue on that front. I take maybe 2 rolaids per month.

    Thanks to a couple of complicated hernia surgeries over the past 4 years I am very limited on what I can do exercise-wise.

    Keto has been life changing for me.
     
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    We started Keto in February. I'm down 25 lbs. Kind of plateaued but I feel amazing. Currently 6ft 195 lbs.We came off of it on a recent camping trip (had to have a milkshake) and I could tell almost immediately. Felt bloated and tired. The way we make it work is we shop Aldi's and pretty much buy the same things every week. Sounds bland but it works. Sunday evenings my phone alarm goes off for meal prep. I cut up and prepare my lunch salads for the week. Cook all of the bacon etc. My weekly meals that I take to work consists of 2 slices of bacon with 1/2 an avocado for breakfast/ 1/4 cup of mixed nuts for snack/lunch is a salad with cut up ham and cheese/spicy pork rinds for afternoon snack. Having everything prepared makes me stick to it. For dinners we typically do some kind of meat with a vegetable. I have green beans dialed in!

    Make sure you get the "carb manager" app and figure out what your macros are. We tracked EVERYTHING the first month. Once we had an idea of what we needed to avoid I stopped tracking. Helps when you eat almost the same stuff. It's been a total lifestyle change for us.
     
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    Here's a tip, call it Atkins causes that is what it is. Don't eat carbs for to weeks. You will lose no less than 10 lbs. Exercise in moderation and up that number to 15lbs first two weeks. Get Ketone strips from CVS. Eat meat. BACON, LOTS of BACON. in fact if you don;t eat carbs, eat all the damn bacon you want because your cholesterol will go DOWN. I generally eat mostly Sausage and Bacon the first two weeks. Stay away from nuts. If you have a sweet tooth, fried provolone cheese with cinnamon and splenda. I'll post my bread recipe later.
     
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    Got on keto as an alternative to adding another oral diabetes drug. Lost 25#'s Feb to Jun. Down to just taking metformin. Me and my wife went cold turkey on carbs to start. That's the way Atkins works too. Not sure I would recommend doing it that way but we were carboholics. Avocado's, almond flour and cauliflower are your friends. Fun going to Wendys and just eating the guts out of a double cheese burger. I dont miss the buns on anything too much anymore. There are lots and lots of recipes out there. Keto pizza is pretty good. Crust is mozzarella cheese and almond flour. Best keto recipe yet. My wife also does a cauliflower mac and cheese (there is no mac). Its delicious and feels like cheating. Cheese cake with artifical sweetner is numero uno Keto desert. This is so good it also feels like cheating. Lots of good info and recipes on the web. I get at least one recipe a day on my google feed on my phone. We cheat now with summer corn, PopSecret popcorn, mini ice cream cups. I have a 12carb piece of toast every morning. If I have a no carb salad for lunch I will have to have a snack in the afternoon. Sunflower seeds are great Keto snack. Two packs for a $1 at most stop and robs. Portion control products are good too like the little Jiff Peanut butter cups. One of those and half of an apple is pretty darn good. Im a drinker but am not keeping beer in the house but wine and Rye whiskey. Beer has a ton of carbs. If you do straight keto (and if you can w/o cheating you are a better man than me) you will loose a ton of weight. We cut out all potato chips and tortilla chips. Mexican restaurants are off the menu. There is a snack chip at the grocery store that is made with almond and rice flour that is very good and not too spendy. PORK SKINS are keto. Yay! There is one brand that is Sriracha flavored, very good. The rest of the chip isle is off the menu. Beef jerky is keto. Nuts are keto. Berries are keto. Melons are not. Good Luck! If I can do it, anyone can.
     
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    There are a ton of low-carb "diets", most of them are just variations of the same foundation. The data are clear, low-carb is the way to go, with good fats and good carbs (fruit, etc).
     
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    He sounds like a fat Italian guy on the podcast blew my mind when I saw his picture.

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    Why stay away from nuts? Are almonds and pistachios ok - cause I try to have a serving of one or the other at least 4-5 times a week?
     
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    No keto, but we went vegan and the weight disappeared...quickly. Didn't add any exercise, only changed the diet. Not missing anything either. Whatever works for you to reach the goal you set. Good luck!
     
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    I tried it for a month, starting on Memorial Day of last year. Lost 17 pounds in 4 weeks. The only two carb sources I really missed was beer, and grits. I love good beer, and can't just substitute another source of alcohol, because it's not about the alcohol.

    I could go the rest of my life without eating another tater, and don't much miss pasta.

    It gets tough around the holidays, and that's when my discipline really started to fail. Then, we started dealing with some eldercare issues, and stayed so spread out and off-routine, that I would just grab something easy.

    At 6'4" and 240#, most people wouldn't call me obese; but my skinny frame shouldn't really be carrying more than 200#.

    All that rambling to say: Yeah, it works. The first three days are the hardest. Not too bad after that, if life doesn't mess with your routine too much.
     
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    Almonds are good, we ate a lot of them. Cashews are bad, more carbs than other nuts. Pistachios seem to do well for me too.


    Straight liquor does well for me. But it does not take as much as it used to. I had no weight gain, and many times lost weight, after drinking on my night off.

    This site really helped us. This should link you to the visual guides for foods to eat and to avoid. Lots of diets tell you what not to eat. But seeing what to eat and how it fits into the carb level really helped us.

    https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto#food
     
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    I just got back on the wagon a couple days ago. I'm starting with a carnivore diet for the first month or so as an elimination diet. Been eating like shite for so long that I need to reset my gut... I'll transition to keto/low carb and then a paleo-type diet ideally.

    It works. I lost over 50# last time I was serious about it. Probably put 20 back on it the last year and a half. I don't think keto is viable for a permanent solution but it is a great tool in the box. It's a lot of work keeping track of macros.

    Biggest tip is plan. Plan ahead or you will slip. You can wing it from time to time but you need to have a plan the bulk of the time...
     
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    I failed at it horribly, and it was excruciatingly hard because I have a huge sweet tooth. I tried it a few months ago and I thought I got off to a good start, I mean I ate no carbs at all for a couple of weeks, then I would cheat a little here and there, smack on some Pecans, have a dish with a little rice in it, etc. After a month I weighed myself and I had lost maybe 10lbs if that much. It just wasn't worth it. I think one of the things I did wrong was I tried to make up for the empty feeling I had all the time by eating A LOT. I probably consumed twice the calories I did when I was non-keto. I finally decided I'll just do it the old fashioned way, count calories and exercise. At least I'll feel satisfied when I do eat.
     
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    I'm on day 3.

    When do the farts stop smelling like cabbage?
     
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    Nuts have lots of carbs
     
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    Lol not sure. I was just glad I didn’t have a headache today. I’m pissing about twice or more than normal lol


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    If you don't eat a lot of green, leafy vegetables on keto, take a fiber supplement like Metamucil. Drink a lot of water. Lack of fiber on keto can be a real problem for certain of us.
     
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    Try the Mio with electrolytes added to your water. Gatorade has too much sugar. The headache is usually an electrolyte issue. You can do the bone broth too, but I just used Mio.
     
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    Yeah I got some mio sport and it fixed the headache. Thanks man.


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    I also read that the urinating more than usual is normal as your kidneys are able to flush more fluid from your body. That's why in the first few weeks people on Keto seem to lose weight fast, a lot of it is water. But fat >is< being burned, you just gotta power through it. This thread inspired me to start again...so its only been a few days.
     
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    I tried it twice. The first time, I did the math wrong (didn't carry the decimal.) I don't remember the exact numbers, but I was supposed to stay around 80g of carbs a day (again, I don't remember exactly, that could be wrong) and I screwed it up somehow and interpreted it as 8mg. That was a rough week.
    Finally got the science right, and a few guys from work joined me, and then we found out that ketosis can cause some pretty serious ill-effects, including skin staining, and cardiovascular troubles in some people.
    Now I'm just cutting WAY back on soda, and doing homemade smoothies as meal replacements for breakfast and dinner during the week. Weekends I splurge and have 1 really good meal.
     
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    Skin staining???
     
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    Yeah...whut?
     
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    I think it's called Keto Rash. Some people are developing a rash when entering ketosis, and it's a type of dermatitis that is even leaving behind permanent brown stains on skin. Granted, it's not a guaranteed side effect, in fact I believe the chances are low, but they were high enough that someone I know now has some new birthmark patterns.
     
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    https://perfectketo.com/keto-rash/

    I wont argue Keto is for everyone, and side effects are varied. But I had never heard of this one. Didn't read where it is permanent though.
     
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    https://www.healthline.com/health/keto-rash

    Symptoms of the keto rash may include:

    • an itchy, red rash that occurs primarily on the upper back, chest, and abdomen
    • red spots, called papules, that take on a web-like appearance
    • a dark brown pattern left on the skin once the spots disappear
    But I am not a dermatologist, nor do I participate in the diet any longer. I can look for the places I found info on the permanent pigment change, might take a bit.
     
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    Yeah, you really don't have to.
     
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    Glad I could inspire you!


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    Well..you did...but I got to work, someone said something that immediately put me in a crap mood. So I ate Chick-Fil-A for lunch....bread and all...so...meh...the Lords chicken
     
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    My neighbors son got some liver damage from it. But he went hard and strict on it for over a year. My guess, some folks are just pre disposed to certain reactions. It's also why I moderated mine once I lost enough.

    Right now I'm trying to pay attention to what I'm eating. Made a bit of a tweak last week and I'm down about 3 lbs. Under 200 again today. Shooting for about 195 again. If I loose too much I just look way too skinny.
     
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    I read this thread yesterday around 6pm. I havent had a carb or sugar since. We will see how it goes.

    I've been wanting to try keto for a while now and this thread gave me the info I was looking for.
     
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    A 12 count nugget meal and coke zero is only about 50g carbs... Not the worst cheat. It's the buns and the sweet sauces that kill their food...
     
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    The Gatorade zero is pretty good too. Though it doesn’t have the vitamins the mio sport does.


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    When I am "going hard" I still reserve two cheats per week.

    The first is usually a Chik-fil-a sandwich minus the bread for lunch one day at work.

    The second is bourbon or scotch on Saturday night.
     
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