@VA_GENTLEMAN
Let’s make an all purpose Long Range Rimfire knowledge / rule thread.
Recommended gear, ammo, etc..
Let’s make an all purpose Long Range Rimfire knowledge / rule thread.
Recommended gear, ammo, etc..
We (my boys and i) are in newton and would like to join on on this match. When, and what equipmet, ammo, etc?Good idea @MadMardigan !
I am proficient in the sport of Precision Rimfire, but there is always more to learn.
This thread is not for the TSC Match, but a place to ask Long Range Rimfire questions on Equipment, Ballistics, Strategy, Positions and anything else. It is all relevant to Centerfire shooting. Remember, a 300 yard .22 LR shot is very similar to a 1100 yard .308 shot.
Just to give the guys here an idea, my club Catawba Valley Rifle Pistol Club, has a Tactical Steel Challenge (TSC) match that we have shot for over 7 years.
1. This match has 5 stages, 57, 112, 163, 212 and 295 Yards. You get 10 shots each stage with 12 targets... 6 Singles, 4 Aggressors (Hostage covering 66%+ Aggressor) and 2 Bonus (Smaller Aggressor Targets)
2. This invokes strategy into your overall score as Singles = 1 Point, Aggressor = 2 Points and Bonus = 3 Points. IF you hit a hostage, it is scored -1 Point.
3. This is not a belly match. The positions will incorporate: Rooftop Overwatch, 90 Degree Prone, Sniper Hole, DogHouse, Wailing Wall, Spider Web, Spools, 30 Degree Prone Incline, Offhand and maybe Prone.
4. Since we are a square range, there is no transition from yardage to yardage during a relay... that gives this match more precision focus -- you have to put the bullet where it is needed to go; but you have 10 at the same yardage.
There are tons of PRS Rimfire Matches that are now jumping up everywhere. I shoot PRS and DMM matches and I can tell you that this TSC Match will make you VERY proficient in long range. This match will make you a better shooter and introduce you to competition with folks that are fun and family friendly.
This is a good opportunity for CFF members to come up and at least try. And don't worry about not doing well or doing great, we are competitive but laid back. And our shooters will share tips, tricks and anything you ask them. Our goal is to increase proficiency in shooting rimfire and have fun doing it.
Plus... its just so daggone fun to shoot!
Also, @Bunsen has his match close to Mebane that is very similar.. he has some fun stuff going on as well...
If you are talking about the DPRC match, I do not think Tom is involved with it anymore. Jim P is running it.
Paul is also running some up at @Frontline Defense he puts on great 22 long range style match. Just like his regular long range style matches, multiple targets per stage at varying distances using various props to shoot from.
If you are talking about the DPRC match, I do not think Tom is involved with it anymore. Jim P is running it.
Paul is also running some up at @Frontline Defense he puts on great 22 long range style match. Just like his regular long range style matches, multiple targets per stage at varying distances using various props to shoot from.
Ah.. good info... I haven't heard from Tom in a while. I wonder if GSK moved him.
This sounds like fun, I got to meet Paul today, I spotted the Frontline Pickup & introduced meself.Paul is also running some up at @Frontline Defense he puts on great 22 long range style match. Just like his regular long range style matches, multiple targets per stage at varying distances using various props to shoot from.
@VA_GENTLEMAN
Let’s make an all purpose Long Range Rimfire knowledge / rule thread.
Recommended gear, ammo, etc..
Shawn is correct that I'm no longer running the PRM matches at DPRC. I needed to completely step away from DPRC after serving as the club President for 16 months.
Thankfully, @JimP42 has stepped in and is now running the matches on the second Sunday of each month. They are now on the new rimfire range and shooting out to 150yds I believe. Multiple divisions and all falling steel targets. It should look something like the videos linked below. The young lady in the videos is still shooting the match AND still beating almost everybody.
Nobody will laugh. There are a wide range of skill and equipment levels. The former is more important. The smallest targets are more than 2 MOA, which is within reach of lots of rifles if you know what ammo it likes.
Looks like fun, but sounds like everybody and their uncle has a suppressor. I don't know if it's the camera angle or what but that berm looks about 10' too short.
@Bunsen Any thoughts on the Vudoo V-22? Saw you make a quick reference to it in another thread here.
I've not seen one in person yet so I can't attest to quality, accuracy, fit or finish.
The "Holy Grail" of rimfire trainers for some has been a Rem 700 clone that fits into any and all aftermarket stocks and accepts most after market triggers. Thus shooters could set up a trainer as near as possible to their match rifles.
Acquiring a Rem 40x and sending it off for a repeater conversion was about the closest you could get.
This past summer Vudoo Gun Works "emerges from nowhere" with the V-22 and it ticks a lot of those boxes. They even have a solution for using AI pattern sized mags that run rimfire rounds. It was getting a lot of HYPE in the Rimfire section on Snipers Hide and other forums from a few select individuals (paid promoters) that had access to prototype/first production run rifles and were likely offered a significant discount on their purchase of a V-22.
I'm sure it's a nice quality rifle However there is one huge caveat that a LOT of people either chose to overlook or are unaware of...the man behind Vudoo Rifles is Mike Bush. I don't know Mike personally and have never had any dealings with him. A little Googl-Fu though should yield you the names of his four previous now defunct custom rifle businesses. (Underground Skunkworks, WildCall Custom Rifles, BlackOps Precision, and BlackOps Tech). The V-22 is just a refined version of the Ravage rimfire BlackOps was peddling back in 2012. I'm not sure how much info has been lost or scrubbed from the Hide, but do your research before sending in a deposit.
https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/blackops-technologies-ravage-rimfire-repeater.127333/
Are the matching being discussed here open for non-members? I'd like to try one once my recent purchase shows up and I can get it sighted in.
Has this recent purchase been publicized yet? After your two threads curious minds want the scoop!
Nope. Was going to wait until it was all here and assembled. Bought rifle, scope, two sets of rings (will send back whatever height I don't need) and a bipod. Silencer was already bought, but it's months away from being approved. Good thing I already have six other rimfire cans here.Has this recent purchase been publicized yet? After your two threads curious minds want the scoop!
Nope. Was going to wait until it was all here and assembled. Bought rifle, scope, two sets of rings (will send back whatever height I don't need) and a bipod. Silencer was already bought, but it's months away from being approved. Good thing I already have six other rimfire cans here.
Pretty excited about the whole setup. Unfortunately the rifle will be the last to arrive...found a deal on it online (less than both Jerek & Scott said it cost them to buy one), and they advertise 7-10 days to ship.
Catawba Valley Rifle and Pistol Club TSC Matches are open as well! After shooting a season of TSC and DPRC... man you will be a gnat-tacker by Fall!
What do you all recommend for scopes?
I’m leaning towards my 4-16x Viper PST.
But I’m kind of thinking I want more power.
You should be able to run the 4-16X Viper with no problems. Or at least give it a try before dumping money into something else. I've run both a 8-32x52 Konuspro F30 and a 6-24x50 Athlon Helos on my CZ and I have found that I seldom, if ever, run either at more than 14-16X. It is nice to have the extra magnification available, but I just don't seem to use it very often. I will crank the scope up occasionally when I am playing around at 300-500 yards, but that is about it.
I was looking at the Argos BTR 8-36x56.
Then move the Viper to my AR10 since It’s naked
I used to use paper shims in the scope rings to do the same thing. It worked for me.Also I see this scope only has 45MOA of total elevation travel. You might find yourself in need of a 30-40 MOA rail to reach 300yds; dependent on how the scope zero's on your rifle relative to midpoint of travel.
Also I see this scope only has 45MOA of total elevation travel. You might find yourself in need of a 30-40 MOA rail to reach 300yds; dependent on how the scope zero's on your rifle relative to midpoint of travel.
Burris makes rings with offset inserts...up to 40MOA if you put a +20 on one end and -20 on the other. I have a set of the rings and inserts here that I plan on installing in the next week or so to give it a try.I used to use paper shims in the scope rings to do the same thing. It worked for me.
Everyone was holding 20ft over at 400y, I'm aiming at the target it gave me an advantage.
I was looking at the Argos BTR 8-36x56.
Then move the Viper to my AR10 since It’s naked