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Zbizzle911

Zbizzle911

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Looking for a hunting club for next year. Lost my lease a few years ago and my sons not a infant anymore. Looking to stay within an 1:30 mins of winston Salem / Lexington. Let me know if you know of anything opening up. Deer and turkey preferred.


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Ikarus1 said:
$15-20 per acre. Too damn much for most of the scrub paper company land that I have seen, or for land that has had every white oak cut down and turned into a pallet in the last year.

Leasing land for hunting in NC is a joke, a sick one at that.
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Thanks. So up to 20 for really nice forest, mostly hardwood with some pine, and a lot of the scrub removed 8 years back? Has 4wd pickup accessible trails unless very very wet. I think the only thing that would make it nicer would be a pond or year round stream flowing through.
 
JimP42 said:
Thanks. So up to 20 for really nice forest, mostly hardwood with some pine, and a lot of the scrub removed 8 years back? Has 4wd pickup accessible trails unless very very wet. I think the only thing that would make it nicer would be a pond or year round stream flowing through.
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Yes. Good luck
 
If you get the forest service to write you a timber management plan for your property and take it to the tax office it would prob help you out alot with those taxes.
 
BBD280 said:
If you get the forest service to write you a timber management plan for your property and take it to the tax office it would prob help you out alot with those taxes.
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...and leave him with property that looks like they tested MOABs on.

I’d rather pay the taxes and keep my nice property. Spoken like a guy who doesn’t own any large tracts of land, but hey, I can opine!
 
9outof10mms said:
...and leave him with property that looks like they tested MOABs on.

I’d rather pay the taxes and keep my nice property. Spoken like a guy who doesn’t own any large tracts of land, but hey, I can opine!
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I'm not sure you understand how it works..... The forester sits down with the landowner and writes a plan to facilitate whatever the landowner's goals are with the timber on their property. They will also put you in contact with the USDA who can set you up with whatever programs they have in place that can help you with your plans...... Having an active management plan in place will give you a cut rate on your property taxes.
 
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9outof10mms said:
...and leave him with property that looks like they tested MOABs on.

I’d rather pay the taxes and keep my nice property. Spoken like a guy who doesn’t own any large tracts of land, but hey, I can opine!
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I hunt on 70 acres in Chatham County owned by a friend. He set up a forestry plan when he bought it, and the tax man charges him something absurd, I can't remember, but it's like a few hundred bucks a year. He had a logger come in and clear his future garden and home site, and a road, and they thinned (not clear cut) a larger area. The thinned area was just so dense before you couldn't see or shoot through it, lots of crappy red maples and little junk. Now it looks like a park, with loblolly pines, yellow popular, and a few white oaks, about 50% canopy cover, and some small unmerchantable timber on the ground that will be gone in 2-3 years. Controlled burn would help clean it up as well. Before he did this, the hunting was awful, but this year, I've killed three and missed a really awesome buck due to my poor marksmanship and a major adrenaline rush. Some days I see several turkeys every hour (of course, in March you won't find them with a magnifying glass). This land is much prettier and wildlife productive than it was before.
 
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BBD280 said:
I'm not sure you understand how it works..... The forester sits down with the landowner and writes a plan to facilitate whatever the landowner's goals are with the timber on their property. They will also put you in contact with the USDA who can set you up with whatever programs they have in place that can help you with your plans...... Having an active management plan in place will give you a cut rate on your property taxes.
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Granted, my data set is limited, but of the few folks I personally know (plus those I've watched their property as I pass by everyday) who've done a timber plan for tax purposes, all them were left with land that was raped and pillaged. In all cases, they can be quoted as saying "geeze, the logging company didn't make it seem so bad--I wouldn't have done it if I knew it would do this."

I'm sure there are some ethical and/or precise loggers out there. I've not yet seen their handywork. And don't get me wrong: would I rather pay XXXX dollars per year to the crown or little to no tithe to the crown per year? That's an easy answer. But if it means jeopardizing the beauty/sanctity of my property, I'd rather pay.
 
Forestry _plan_. For decades into the future. Not necessarily action. Who knows what will happen by then? Could be like a boating accident, sort of.
 
9outof10mms said:
Granted, my data set is limited, but of the few folks I personally know (plus those I've watched their property as I pass by everyday) who've done a timber plan for tax purposes, all them were left with land that was raped and pillaged. In all cases, they can be quoted as saying "geeze, the logging company didn't make it seem so bad--I wouldn't have done it if I knew it would do this."

I'm sure there are some ethical and/or precise loggers out there. I've not yet seen their handywork. And don't get me wrong: would I rather pay XXXX dollars per year to the crown or little to no tithe to the crown per year? That's an easy answer. But if it means jeopardizing the beauty/sanctity of my property, I'd rather pay.
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Nobody said anything about talking to a logger or even cutting any trees, I said talk to someone with the forestry service about a management plan. There's alot more to managing timber and it's byproducts than sending in a crew to clear cut your property. I was simply trying to give @Slacker a possible option to reduce his property taxes. I've done it and it works.
 
Keep in mind that you have to keep it in the forestry program just about forever. If you let the program lapse or get out of the program, you have to cough up the taxes for the last ten years that you would have paid. That can be more than the land is really worth. A tract I have of about 35 acres was valued at about $1,000 per acre, and I paid taxes on about $12,000 due to the forestry program. They revalued the land to about $10,000 an acre, but I am still paying about the same low taxes due to the forestry plan. I control when trees are cut or thinned as long as it is fairly consistent with the plan my forester made. I inherited a bunch more last year and put it into the program so that I would not be hit with a massive tax bill. You can do about the same thing with farm land if you can keep it in production.
 
It's 3 years back taxes in Chatham county when you leave forestry special use.
 
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