MG's and marijuana...

ERE99 said:
Let's say just the 1986 bill was to be overturned..... Can you imagine what owners of $15,000+ M16's would say when you could convert a $500 AR on a $200 stamp? Same for semi BARs, semi M1919s, etc.
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That is why the majority of owners of pre-86 machine guns oppose the repeal of the Hughes Amendment.

I sometimes wonder if the Democrats got lucky with that amendment, or if they realized how fully it would screw gun owners and pit one group of them against the rest of us.
 
Big Problem with pot is how long it stays in the system and affects you. Alcohol affect can go away fairly quickly where pot can last days. You are now hearing more and more studies where pot is a large factor in many motor vehicle accident (fatal as well). Me personally, have your weed and leave guns alone. You will end up causing more problems for other gun owners in the end.
 
Mike400 said:
Big Problem with pot is how long it stays in the system and affects you. Alcohol affect can go away fairly quickly where pot can last days. You are now hearing more and more studies where pot is a large factor in many motor vehicle accident (fatal as well). Me personally, have your weed and leave guns alone. You will end up causing more problems for other gun owners in the end.
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Can't you post some of these studies?

Can you show me how you found out that pot effects you "for days" and that alcohol does not? I sure would like to learn about it!
 
Mike400 said:
Big Problem with pot is how long it stays in the system and affects you. Alcohol affect can go away fairly quickly where pot can last days. You are now hearing more and more studies where pot is a large factor in many motor vehicle accident (fatal as well). Me personally, have your weed and leave guns alone. You will end up causing more problems for other gun owners in the end.
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You kind of sound like an anti gun person trying to explain why guns are bad, you know, the shoulder thing that goes up:rolleyes:.
 
I can never understand why getting high is one of the most important topics across the country. Why is legalizing another mind altering substance so important? Is your life so bad that this is that important to you? I guess I get my outlet from shooting, hunting, etc. You do know that it's called DOPE for a reason!
 
Mike400 said:
I can never understand why getting high is one of the most important topics across the country. Why is legalizing another mind altering substance so important? Is your life so bad that this is that important to you? I guess I get my outlet from shooting, hunting, etc. You do know that it's called DOPE for a reason!
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I think the better way to phrase it would be why is keeping people from getting high such an important topic? Why do you care what other people do in the privacy of their own home? Why can’t you and other like minded people just leave people alone and let them live their lives in their own way? WHY DO YOU CARE?
 
Mike400 said:
I can never understand why getting high is one of the most important topics across the country. Why is legalizing another mind altering substance so important? Is your life so bad that this is that important to you? I guess I get my outlet from shooting, hunting, etc. You do know that it's called DOPE for a reason!
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I have no desire to do DOPE but I still don’t want some bigger DOPE called a politician telling me what I can and can’t do in the privacy of my home as long as I’m not hurting anyone.
 
ERE99 said:
Let's say just the 1986 bill was to be overturned..... Can you imagine what owners of $15,000+ M16's would say when you could convert a $500 AR on a $200 stamp? Same for semi BARs, semi M1919s, etc.
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I don't care what the owners of $15,000 ANYTHING have to say.

If I were an owner of a $15,000 M16 and this happened, you know what I'd do?

I'd go out and by me that $500 AR and convert it for the price of a $2oo stamp, THAT'S what I'd do.

There are very, VERY few private citizens out there who own $15,000 M16s. And even FEWER of them who have bought them as some form of "investment".
 
Mike400 said:
I can never understand why getting high is one of the most important topics across the country. Why is legalizing another mind altering substance so important? Is your life so bad that this is that important to you? I guess I get my outlet from shooting, hunting, etc. You do know that it's called DOPE for a reason!
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Do you drink alcohol?
 
Mike400 said:
I can never understand why getting high is one of the most important topics across the country. Why is legalizing another mind altering substance so important? Is your life so bad that this is that important to you? I guess I get my outlet from shooting, hunting, etc. You do know that it's called DOPE for a reason!
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Man, you are really missing the point here.
 
NKD said:
Man, you are really missing the point here.
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No, I am not missing the point. I have no interest in telling people what to do in there own homes. However, if you do something that can affect me, Yes I have a problem. Most will say its just the same as alcohol, no its not. Effects last up to 72 hours and beyond. So that bowl you smoke after work to relax you, now affects your driving to work the next day. Then the dumb ass here who stated it steadies his shooting.....Just my point. That's the guy that has the ND and shoots someone else making ALL gun owners look bad.. Just google MJ and long term effects, many articles on this and the uptick in MJ related traffic deaths in states where it's legalized.
Tell me do you want your airline pilot to fly your family after a bowl? NO you would not. Would you want a DR to perform a serious surgery on a loved one after a bowl, NO! I again say if another intoxicating substance is that important, You really ought to rethink your life.
 
Yer so off base it's not funny & are parroting grossly misunderstood talking points.

The metabolites stay in your system a while, same as for alcohol. It just so happens there an inexpensive method to detect blood alcohol levels (think economy of scale), while blood THC levels are $$$. Since you can fire someone for simply having smoked pot in the recent past, why pony to see IF they're high when the piss test that only shows they WERE high within the last few weeks is so cheap?
 
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Mike400 said:
No, I am not missing the point. I have no interest in telling people what to do in there own homes. However, if you do something that can affect me, Yes I have a problem. Most will say its just the same as alcohol, no its not. Effects last up to 72 hours and beyond. So that bowl you smoke after work to relax you, now affects your driving to work the next day. Then the dumb ass here who stated it steadies his shooting.....Just my point. That's the guy that has the ND and shoots someone else making ALL gun owners look bad.. Just google MJ and long term effects, many articles on this and the uptick in MJ related traffic deaths in states where it's legalized.
Tell me do you want your airline pilot to fly your family after a bowl? NO you would not. Would you want a DR to perform a serious surgery on a loved one after a bowl, NO! I again say if another intoxicating substance is that important, You really ought to rethink your life.
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Did you write the movie Reefer Madness? Probably not , I don't figure you to have enough sense for such.:eek::rolleyes:
 
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It's detectable long after the effects of the high are gone. And states that have legalized it are finding more drivers testing positive because they are testing more drivers for it. Before, they only gave a BAC test in those states. I'd bet that the amount of folks driving around with detectable levels of THC hasn't changed one bit. It's funny how folks dismiss the much more problematic drug of alcohol just because it's legal.
P.S.- And, I would rather have a pilot or Dr 72 hours after they last smoked than get on a plane or surgical table with one that had tied on a drunk the night before.
 
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Mike400 said:
No, I am not missing the point. I have no interest in telling people what to do in there own homes. However, if you do something that can affect me, Yes I have a problem. Most will say its just the same as alcohol, no its not. Effects last up to 72 hours and beyond. So that bowl you smoke after work to relax you, now affects your driving to work the next day. Then the dumb ass here who stated it steadies his shooting.....Just my point. That's the guy that has the ND and shoots someone else making ALL gun owners look bad.. Just google MJ and long term effects, many articles on this and the uptick in MJ related traffic deaths in states where it's legalized.
Tell me do you want your airline pilot to fly your family after a bowl? NO you would not. Would you want a DR to perform a serious surgery on a loved one after a bowl, NO! I again say if another intoxicating substance is that important, You really ought to rethink your life.
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Please link the study that states the effects of Marijuana last 72 hours, I would like to read it. Also, if my pilot or doctor wants to go home and smoke a bowl or drink a glass of whiskey the night before my flight or surgery I'm cool with that and if you are not, definitely don't fly or go to the hospital. A lot of people need intoxication substance to get through life, like alcohol, valium and xanax.
 
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I think it's obvious who in this thread would benefit the most from smoking a bowl and chilling out...... I'm not sure where he thinks name calling is gonna get him with this crowd.
 
Mike400 said:
No, I am not missing the point. I have no interest in telling people what to do in there own homes. However, if you do something that can affect me, Yes I have a problem. Most will say its just the same as alcohol, no its not. Effects last up to 72 hours and beyond. So that bowl you smoke after work to relax you, now affects your driving to work the next day. Then the dumb ass here who stated it steadies his shooting.....Just my point. That's the guy that has the ND and shoots someone else making ALL gun owners look bad.. Just google MJ and long term effects, many articles on this and the uptick in MJ related traffic deaths in states where it's legalized.
Tell me do you want your airline pilot to fly your family after a bowl? NO you would not. Would you want a DR to perform a serious surgery on a loved one after a bowl, NO! I again say if another intoxicating substance is that important, You really ought to rethink your life.
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Hahahah. Sure buddy.

Thats the problem with alcohol being legal:
All the airline pilots, F1 drivers, and brain surgeons are completely wasted all the time now! But at least it doesn't affect them the next day, because apparently hangovers do not exist in your world.

Maybe just quit posting brother.
 
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Whats funny is this was a question that came up on a firearms board. I can only assume that we share that common interest. I can list studies, statistics and flood you with articles. But none would be taken serious by this crowd. But in response to the earlier question, no I do not drink alcohol either and my life is happy, healthy and just fine, nor am I missing out on anything important. Some of the comments made here are on the ludicrous side and are not serious comments but just being stupid (or High). Oh sure lets have a stoned pilot fly us around I have no problems with that! Get stoned and do surgery on my daughter, no problem! I like to get high and go out shooting, sound perfectly safe to me! Then the comment to quit posting, sorry that does not upset me at all. I am sure there are many other people reading this who may not be posting thinking the same thing, save a few sad drug users.
 
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BBD280 said:
I'd love to see some factual information supporting your claims.
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He can't, for fear of flooding us with his fount of knowledge. Interesting that someone who cares so little about the subject has such a wealth of data that he won't share.
 
Crazy Carl said:
He can't, for fear of flooding us with his fount of knowledge. Interesting that someone who cares so little about the subject has such a wealth of data that he won't share.
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I didn't know there was so many drug addicted people on these boards,damn shame.
 
Timfoilhat said:
Want to hear a good one?
In Illinois the taxes collected from recreational marijuana are used in part to fund grants going to anti-gun groups.
proof at link https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/th...catch-think-again-it-funds-gun-control-grants
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In Illinois all of the politicians are anti gun and would be funding their anti-gun groups with tax dollars regardless, it just so happens that they are using some of the taxes collected from legal marijuana, they are probably using taxes collected from other things to fund anti gun groups and research as well l, so this is a bit of a red herring, and has more to do with crappy politicians than a silly little plant. But way to push the narrative guy!:confused:
 
NoNameHaveI said:
In Illinois all of the politicians are anti gun and would be funding their anti-gun groups with tax dollars regardless, it just so happens that they are using some of the taxes collected from legal marijuana, they are probably using taxes collected from other things to fund anti gun groups and research as well l, so this is a bit of a red herring, and has more to do with crappy politicians than a silly little plant. But way to push the narrative guy!:confused:
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What narrative am I pushing?
As a recent escapee from Illinois who was politically active in 2nd A advocacy I think I know what there is to know about Illinois and the politicians. They aren't all anti gun for instance. Republican or Democrat doesn't mean much there on the issue though, the real divide is city/ rural.
Just so you know I am politically independent, libertarian at heart, and vote Republican. I believe in freedom. I don't care who smokes what. I was just sharing a story about how bad you could have it.
 
Timfoilhat said:
What narrative am I pushing?
As a recent escapee from Illinois who was politically active in 2nd A advocacy I think I know what there is to know about Illinois and the politicians. They aren't all anti gun for instance. Republican or Democrat doesn't mean much there on the issue though, the real divide is city/ rural.
Just so you know I am politically independent, libertarian at heart, and vote Republican. I believe in freedom. I don't care who smokes what. I was just sharing a story about how bad you could have it.
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Fair enough, I made a bad judgement call in regards to your motivation for that post and assumed you were pushing the “marijuana bad” narrative that was being spouted upthread. That was my bad and I do apologize. :oops:
 
Mike400 said:
. Then the dumb ass here who stated it steadies his shooting.....Just my point. T
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BBD280 said:
I'm not sure where he thinks name calling is gonna get him with this crowd.
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The man you are referring to is a CFF character who tries to involve all with safe shooting. This man is a gentle giant. He is also my friend, and I Do Not use that word much. No matter how "right "you are sitting at your key board, I promise you with all that is Holy, you would Not say this to his face.
 
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