MG's and marijuana...

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Don't ban the poor fellar, we got to take pity on the mental midgets amongst us.
 
Mike400 said:
No, I am not missing the point. I have no interest in telling people what to do in there own homes. However, if you do something that can affect me, Yes I have a problem. Most will say its just the same as alcohol, no its not. Effects last up to 72 hours and beyond. So that bowl you smoke after work to relax you, now affects your driving to work the next day. Then the dumb ass here who stated it steadies his shooting.....Just my point. That's the guy that has the ND and shoots someone else making ALL gun owners look bad.. Just google MJ and long term effects, many articles on this and the uptick in MJ related traffic deaths in states where it's legalized.
Tell me do you want your airline pilot to fly your family after a bowl? NO you would not. Would you want a DR to perform a serious surgery on a loved one after a bowl, NO! I again say if another intoxicating substance is that important, You really ought to rethink your life.
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Please tell me where I can get some weed that will keep me high 72 hrs. I've seen some top notch stuff but not even the goo balls from Phish Shakedown Street circa 2000 would touch 72 hrs.
 
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BatteryOaksBilly said:
The man you are referring to is a CFF character who tries to involve all with safe shooting. This man is a gentle giant. He is also my friend, and I Do Not use that word much. No matter how "right "you are sitting at your key board, I promise you with all that is Holy, you would Not say this to his face.
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He wouldn't say it to your or my face neither Billy. Some people just have no manners. Move this to Tortuga and I'll tell how I really feel ;)
 
Eh. Its a plant. Like with anything else peiple can get a bit carried away.

Legalize it. Tax it. Lets be done with the convo.

MGs.. repeal NFA, lets get some new MGs going at reasonable cost, let me live the dream. Lol.
 
Mike400 said:
I can never understand why getting high is one of the most important topics across the country. Why is legalizing another mind altering substance so important? Is your life so bad that this is that important to you? I guess I get my outlet from shooting, hunting, etc. You do know that it's called DOPE for a reason!
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The last sentence is probably the only thing I agree with. I quit smoking dope over 40 years ago, after ingesting enough of the stuff to get the state of NC high for a month, I guess. It really does fog your brain and with me, retarded conversational skills. For about 3 years, the most profound thought that went thru my head was "far out, man." If you want to lecture on why someone should not do any drugs, this is a reason, and a valid one, just like an ounce of alcohol kills multiple thousands of brain cells (it does), which will not "grow back." I also have a MORAL reason I do not smoke dope any more. Most of the people in here know what that reason is. However, on of the reasons this country is in such a mess is that people do not know how to leave someone alone. It frankly is none of my (nor your) business if someone wants to get high. If they do no harm to someone else, then they may be as self destructive as they wish in their attempts to have pleasure.

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Big Problem with pot is how long it stays in the system and affects you. Alcohol affect can go away fairly quickly where pot can last days.
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Please stop being an idiot. The METABOLIZED COMPONENTS (no longer active) can stay in your body for days (months, actually). It does not mean you are high for days

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You are now hearing more and more studies where pot is a large factor in many motor vehicle accident (fatal as well).
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No, I am actually NOT hearing these studies....., but then, I usually understand the studies I read, so that might be the difference

Mike400 said:
Me personally, have your weed and leave guns alone.
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Like all strutting do gooders, you contradicted yourself and don't even seem to be aware of it. I have caught guff in here for calling some conservatives "stupid" but I honest to God don't know what else to call such abjectly imbecilic reasoning, or what passes for reasoning. If it is about "you, personally" as you suggest, you would simply say "have your weed" and I would heartily support you. I don't smoke the stuff either. However, "you personally" have absolutely zero, nada nothing when it comes to your neopuritannical strictures about "leave guns alone." How about you leave them alone, instead? Novel thought, that, huh?

If you insist on driving in another person's lane, you will wreck your car. If you insist on being a moron while doing it, then you can expect ridicule as well as angry horn honking. Your call
 
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No bans. That belongs to folks who are offended but don't have the goods to show why.

The best disinfectant is light. It might seem mean, but exposing idiocy is actually the best way to dispense with it.
 
Tucci454 said:
Well, that escalated quickly.
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It's not like me to go there but I'm going there right now and pardon me for saying, but that's what happens when a new member of 32 days jumps into a thread spewing fiction and opinion as fact...missing the point entirely and shifting the focus on something else entirely.

Studies, facts, whatever you wanna call it. As always, consider the source and their agenda. As for opinions? Well that's just what they are.
Then as if that's not enough, when asked to provide these sources you seem to get a little defensive. I know there are studies and articles, blah blah blah. Got any real-world first-hand experience with using marijuana or DOPE as you refer to it? I doubt it.
And even when someone was kind enough to try and point you in the right direction, you decide to attack and start throwing insults at one of "our", obviously not your family members? No, we aren't going to stand for that. Which, in your opinion makes all of us:
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I didn't know there was so many drug addicted people on these boards,damn shame.
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That's just it. You don't know. I have no idea how long you may have lurked here before signing up as a member, or afterwards. But you obviously havn't taken the time to look long and hard enough to realize what this place, but more important, the fine folks that make up this place are all about and what we stand for. Unfortunately you've missed that as well.
I'm sure it would be beneath you to take advice from a "drug addicted" person like myself, but may I suggest you back off with the insults and take some more time to acquaint yourself with "my family" if'n you wanna be a presence here.

I'm gonna go try and go to sleep again. Sorry so cranky. Must be the damn drugs! Ha
 
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Mike400 is just a teetotaler, doesn't believe in recreational use of any drugs legal or otherwise, completely closed minded on the subject (what about caffeine Mike?). I have met the type before and I'm sure you have too. They usually lack a sense of humor and find it hard to detect humor or sarcasm even though they may not recognize it in themselves. They also tend to be bad at logical arguments.

If you carry concealed you cannot have even have a sip of alcohol, nothing to impair you, legal or otherwise. It is not illogical to extrapolate from that that any impairing drugs are bad ANY TIME because you want to be armed and prepared for conflict. Also religious beliefs come into play here, as an example, Mormon's cannot have much of anything impairing (except wives apparently.)

We should have room for all sides here. Mike you should understand that the same belief you have about freedoms of hunting, shooting, and freedom carry over to other freedoms besides the ones you deem important. We should all agree that Freedom is the most important concept here and what you believe is best for you is important - for you. Someone else may have other things that are important and they are not wrong.

Because someone wants to recreationally use an impairing substance does not mean they are advocating pilots be on drugs when they are flying. Also, if you make grand claims, you must back those up with proof. I hope you read this and understand it.


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Screenshot_20200214-101742.jpg Mike hasn't been on since Wednesday...... I assume he's busy compiling all that information so he can drop it all on us at once.
 
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If you carry concealed you cannot have even have a sip of alcohol, nothing to impair you, legal or otherwise. It is not illogical to extrapolate from that that any impairing drugs are bad ANY TIME because you want to be armed and prepared for conflict. Also religious beliefs come into play here, as an example, Mormon's cannot have much of anything impairing (except wives apparently.)
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I personally think the law is WAY too restrictive on BAC and carrying a gun. In MI the legal BAC limit was 0.02 for carrying a concealed gun, 0.08 for operating a vehicle ... also 0.08 for open carry of a gun.
So let me get this straight. at 0.079 you can drive your 4ton F450 down the highway at the legal 75mph speed limit, towing a trailer full of equipment or a camper that adds another couple tons to your curb weight... but you can't sit in a restaurant with a concealed gun in a holster and have a beer?
And here in NC it's ANY BAC that is illegal while carrying. I may be wrong, but the law doesn't seem to even state that your own property is exempt. No offense to the state, but that's very stupid.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
I personally think the law is WAY too restrictive on BAC and carrying a gun. In MI the legal BAC limit was 0.02 for carrying a concealed gun, 0.08 for operating a vehicle ... also 0.08 for open carry of a gun.
So let me get this straight. at 0.079 you can drive your 4ton F450 down the highway at the legal 75mph speed limit, towing a trailer full of equipment or a camper that adds another couple tons to your curb weight... but you can't sit in a restaurant with a concealed gun in a holster and have a beer?
And here in NC it's ANY BAC that is illegal while carrying. I may be wrong, but the law doesn't seem to even state that your own property is exempt. No offense to the state, but that's very stupid.
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Concealed Carry Handgun law has nothing to do with carrying concealed on your own property, that has always been legal. The Supreme court has always ruled that States can make restrictions when it comes to guns. Carrying concealed in public is a privilege not a right. It comes with rules. It is no different than driving your car in that respect. Rules have guidelines and in this case, they are Laws created by the state government. I think there would be few who argue that Government rules are always logical. The upside is they can be changed. You just need to gather enough like minded people to get them to change it.

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Variable said:
Concealed Carry Handgun law has nothing to do with carrying concealed on your own property, that has always been legal. The Supreme court has always ruled that States can make restrictions when it comes to guns. Carrying concealed in public is a privilege not a right. It comes with rules. It is no different than driving your car in that respect. Rules have guidelines and in this case, they are Laws created by the state government. I think there would be few who argue that Government rules are always logical. The upside is they can be changed. You just need to gather enough like minded people to get them to change it.

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Or have enough money to buy the right people.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
I personally think the law is WAY too restrictive on BAC and carrying a gun. In MI the legal BAC limit was 0.02 for carrying a concealed gun, 0.08 for operating a vehicle ... also 0.08 for open carry of a gun.
So let me get this straight. at 0.079 you can drive your 4ton F450 down the highway at the legal 75mph speed limit, towing a trailer full of equipment or a camper that adds another couple tons to your curb weight... but you can't sit in a restaurant with a concealed gun in a holster and have a beer?
And here in NC it's ANY BAC that is illegal while carrying. I may be wrong, but the law doesn't seem to even state that your own property is exempt. No offense to the state, but that's very stupid.
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I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Louisiana has .05% BAC limit for permitees....although you're not allow in the "bar area" of restaurants. Guess I will have to ask for a drink at the table when traveling to NOLA. It's nice to be able to have a beer with a meal and not feel like a criminal just because I take my own security seriously. Florida is .08% which is the same amount as the driving limit
 
Variable said:
Concealed Carry Handgun law has nothing to do with carrying concealed on your own property, that has always been legal. The Supreme court has always ruled that States can make restrictions when it comes to guns. Carrying concealed in public is a privilege not a right. It comes with rules. It is no different than driving your car in that respect. Rules have guidelines and in this case, they are Laws created by the state government. I think there would be few who argue that Government rules are always logical. The upside is they can be changed. You just need to gather enough like minded people to get them to change it.

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Okay, you're right, the last few words of 14-415.11(c2) do exempt you from the alcohol thing IF you're on your OWN property. But it doesn't exempt you from drinking one beer in your friend's private back yard if you're carrying.
You should have seen us here at thanksgiving...

Excuse me for being paranoid, but I'm new to the state and I am generally against laws that restrict me from doing things that don't hurt anybody. I'm trying to learn the local rules while being somewhat outraged about the things that were totally normal up north that are now very illegal down here.
 
Ikarus1 said:
I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Louisiana has .05% BAC limit for permitees....although you're not allow in the "bar area" of restaurants. Guess I will have to ask for a drink at the table when traveling to NOLA. It's nice to be able to have a beer with a meal and not feel like a criminal just because I take my own security seriously. Florida is .08% which is the same amount as the driving limit
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Didn't they used to ban all concealed pistols inside the city limits? when did that change? i'd heard some folks on podcasts and stuff talking about carrying in nola, but i figured they just didn't give a f and wanted to stay alive down there...
 
Any supporting info yet? @Mike400
Obviously youā€™ve never smoked before. Highs lasting 72 hours.....lol. Thatā€™s funny. Acid doesnā€™t even last 72 hours, not any more anyways. Getting high is not the only reason people smoke bud also. You must have came across this in all of your ā€œresearchā€ as well? Yes?
 
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DrScaryGuy said:
Didn't they used to ban all concealed pistols inside the city limits? when did that change? i'd heard some folks on podcasts and stuff talking about carrying in nola, but i figured they just didn't give a f and wanted to stay alive down there...
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Nope. Statewide pre-emption. They reciprocate with about as many states as NC in the high 30s.

Also gunbuster signs are not enforceable. But....they still have duty to inform :rolleyes:
 
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