Might need to try it out this year.

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Let me know if anyone has shot this before. Sound like fun.
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Fellow members of 17 South Rod and Gun Club,


The Glock Sport Shooting Foundation (GSSF) will be returning to 17 South Rod and Gun Club November 6th through 8th. This is a fun pistol competition that is open to everyone. All you will need to compete is a Glock Pistol, preferably 4 magazines, (although there are people who will gladly assist you in reloading if you don’t have 4), and 100 rounds of ammo for each division you decide to shoot.

Last year we were able to give away 49 pistols and over $8,000 in other prizes! This year we are hoping for the numbers to grow, and to give away even more prizes. Toby and Kyle even raffled off three (3) half price club membership renewals to members who volunteered.

If you have ever thought about dipping your toes in the water to try a pistol match, this is one of the best matches to start with. There are no holsters required, all shooting is stationary, and no tactical reloading is required. Whether you are an experienced shooter, or brand new to it, GSSF has a place for you. There are random prizes given away just for competing. If you do not own a Glock pistol, there are many folks at the club that will be happy to let you borrow theirs, myself included. So bring the whole family, bring your friends, because this event is open to the public.

There is even a division just for the ladies, so bring them along. There are additional special categories for High Lady, High Junior Male and Female, Seniors (55-64), Super Seniors (64+), and Handicapped.

Additional benefits to membership in GSSF include: one pistol coupon per year for a blue label priced Glock, eligibility to attend the Glock Armorers Courses, and GSSF is an affiliate Organization for the Civilian Marksmanship Program (which is part of the qualification needed for the purchase of surplus military firearms and ammunition.). Glock will even bring their armorers to the match and they will inspect, repair, and replaces broken parts in your Glock at no charge!

The Glock Marketing team will be on sight with a variety of Glock models to test fire. If you have ever been unsure which model you wanted, this is a great opportunity for a side by side test drive to make the best purchase for you. They will also have additional Glock merchandise available for sale.

We are also going to need help from club members to make this match run well. No experience is required as Glock will do training for the volunteers. We will need people to be Range Officers, Score Keepers, Perform Squading, direct traffic for parking, and additional tasks that require no experience with pistol matches. Volunteers will all receive a Glock Range Officer hat as well as a choice of rewards given by Glock for each day you work. These include Glock Magazines, GSSF Membership, Match Entry, range bags, field knives and more. There will also be raffles just for the volunteers for additional Glock Pistols and other prizes.

If you are looking for additional information for this event as a participant or want to find out about what you can do to help out or volunteer to be a Range Officer, email me, Andy Peters, at [email protected]. You can also just stop me and ask me about it if you see me at the club. I hope to see you there!

Andy Peters

GSSF Match Director

17 South Rod and Gun Club



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GSSF is a lot of fun. Very easy format. Big targets that aren’t very far out for the speed required to place well. No draws or reloads in the clock. I used to do the annual match in Conyers to go meet with our Glock rep and some other folks in the industry. On top of the random gun draws, gun prizes, and cash prizes, the bigger matches had side matches where you could win hats, backpacks, shirts, etc. Won a couple of polos, a few hats, and a backpack.

One big caveat for GSSF matches:

Don’t be a slimeball, but expect others will be. I knew plenty of guys that would show up to shoot in the stock gun categories with really tricked-out triggers, overtravel stops, tungsten guide rods, titanium strikers with reduced springs, tungsten and lead plugs in the butts of the grip frames, etc. They weren’t thorough with equipment inspections in 2011-2013. Guns looked stock enough on the outside, but they were basically USPSA limited guns. The only permitted modifications are sights and, I think, other OEM Glock parts (e.g. trigger shoes, connectors). Don’t be surprised by the sleazeballs.
 
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Don’t be a slimeball, but expect others will be. I knew plenty of guys that would show up to shoot in the stock gun categories with really tricked-out triggers, overtravel stops, tungsten guide rods, titanium strikers with reduced springs, tungsten and lead plugs in the butts of the grip frames, etc. They weren’t thorough with equipment inspections in 2011-2013. Guns looked stock enough on the outside, but they were basically USPSA limited guns. The only permitted modifications are sights and, I think, other OEM Glock parts (e.g. trigger shoes, connectors). Don’t be surprised by the sleazeballs.
I agree, it's pretty bad when someone feels that they have to bypass the spirit of the game to win.
 
I mean, its a glock match. Not like a limited gun is some huge advantage.

Not like a magwell or full cap mags are going to help you in any way here.
 
Did some club matches in this format but ive never attended a large GSSF match. its more of a challenge than you might think to out-shoot the competition. keeping a Glock in the A zone at 25 yards might not be all that tough but try doing it fast...

One of the folks at my club had 10 or so guns she won at various matches.
 
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I mean, its a glock match. Not like a limited gun is some huge advantage.

Not like a magwell or full cap mags are going to help you in any way here.

I mean, a gun that’s 6 oz heavier than stock with a crisp 2.5 lb trigger, lighter recoil spring assembly... that’s not like shooting a Glock anymore.

You are basically shooting a 1911 in a revolver match at that point.
 
I mean, a gun that’s 6 oz heavier than stock with a crisp 2.5 lb trigger, lighter recoil spring assembly... that’s not like shooting a Glock anymore.

You are basically shooting a 1911 in a revolver match at that point.

Okey dokey. A Glock with a weight and an aftermarket trigger vs. a glock is like a 1911 vs. a Revo?

Lolz. Ok bro.
 
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Okey dokey. A Glock with a weight and an aftermarket trigger vs. a glock is like a 1911 vs. a Revo?

Lolz. Ok bro.

Between 2011-2013, I shot around 55K rounds total. I shot four-to-six outdoor matches a month, did private training for competition shooters, and helped run indoor matches at our associated range. I shot a disturbing amount of Atlanta Arms 147gr at prices ranging from steeply discounted to free. Equipment benefits everyone, but experience can really capitalize on equipment.

For me, my Competition gun ran about 10-12 seconds faster through all the courses than my stock Glock.

A heavier gun, with a trigger that’s 40% shorter and 50% lighter, with recoil and striker springs tuned to your ammo, is insanely easy to shoot if your fundamentals are completely “there.” You can shoot as fast as you can track the front fiber optic, and it will track flat and neutral.

It’s not “ok, lolz.” Let an A-class or higher Limited shooter run classifiers with a CZ TS Orange. Then make them run the same classifiers with a stock CZ 75B. Equipment makes a huge difference. Which is why people sneaking sleeper guns through the stock pistol divisions is grimy as all get-out.
 
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Between 2011-2013, I shot around 55K rounds total. I shot four-to-six outdoor matches a month, did private training for competition shooters, and helped run indoor matches at our associated range. I shot a disturbing amount of Atlanta Arms 147gr at prices ranging from steeply discounted to free. Equipment benefits everyone, but experience can really capitalize on equipment.

For me, my Competition gun ran about 10-12 seconds faster through all the courses than my stock Glock.

A heavier gun, with a trigger that’s 40% shorter and 50% lighter, with recoil and striker springs tuned to your ammo, is insanely easy to shoot if your fundamentals are completely “there.” You can shoot as fast as you can track the front fiber optic, and it will track flat and neutral.

It’s not “ok, lolz.” Let an A-class or higher Limited shooter run classifiers with a CZ TS Orange. Then make them run the same classifiers with a stock CZ 75B. Equipment makes a huge difference. Which is why people sneaking sleeper guns through the stock pistol divisions is grimy as all get-out.

Dude. Do you seriously think you are the only person on here that shoots guns and does competitions? Really?

I own an Orange btw. And it has tens of thousands through it. ( Edit: my gun previous to that was a CZ75 with many tens of thousands of rounds, btw. ) And 3 glocks.
Yes I can shoot the Tso better than a stock Glock.

But why are we now talking about 1800$ steel CZ race guns when just a second ago we were talking about grocks with triggers?

Do they allow CZ TSO’s to be used at GSSF matches?

Are all the A class Limited shooters stalking the GSSF matches now? None of the ones I know would waste their time.
 
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Dude. Do you seriously think you are the only person on here that shoots guns and does competitions? Really?

I own an Orange btw. And it has tens of thousands through it. ( Edit: my gun previous to that was a CZ75 with many tens of thousands of rounds, btw. ) And 3 glocks.
Yes I can shoot the Tso better than a stock Glock.

But why are we now talking about 1800$ steel CZ race guns when just a second ago we were talking about grocks with triggers?

Do they allow CZ TSO’s to be used at GSSF matches?

Are all the A class Limited shooters stalking the GSSF matches now? None of the ones I know would waste their time.

I don’t get how this became contentious. Or derailed a thread so far.

I said GSSF is fun. Opinion. I also said people use sleeper race guns in GSSF stock divisions. That’s a fact.

I said a sleeper race gun is a scummy advantage. That is an opinion.

You said the “1911 vs. revolver” illustration was hogwash. That’s an assertion of fact or opinion or both. I disagree because the difference is comparable. A gun with a light, crisp trigger and purpose-tuned recoil impulse compares favorably to a longer, heavier trigger with a stiffer +P/NATO spec recoil system. Much like a single-action semi-auto compares to a DA revolver with a fixed barrel.

In GSSF, the top Competition shooters usually beat the top Stock shooters consistently by five to fifteen seconds total. It’s an average of 10-20% overall.

I provided my experience for context. I have shot a lot of matches. In my USPSA experience, comparable shooters (e.g. A-Class or M in REV versus the same in Single Stack) post hit factors that reflect a similar 10-20% advantage. It also carries over to IDPA with respect to times posted by wheelies versus the CDP folks.

I used an analogous example of a TSO versus a 75B. One is far easier to shoot well, at speed, than the other, despite being similar in form factor. It’s no different an analogy than comparing a stock Challenger to a Hellcat on the quarter-mile. The same driver would post measurably faster times with the SRT. And, it would be super scummy to sleeper mod a Hellcat and run in a quarter-mile stock division.

Never said USPSA guys could or would use equipment made by CZ in GSSF. That’s not even possible. GSSF is for Glocks.

GSSF divides guns up based on size, caliber, and performance enhancements. Internal aftermarket upgrades are meant to be shot in Competition guns. Some people cheat by using modified equipment in the Stock categories. That conveys a measurable advantage, and in my experience, GSSF was not very strict on inspections or enforcing the rules. That’s all I wanted to communicate to the OP. Sorry to @NKD that my chosen illustrative comparison made you unhappy.
 
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I don’t get how this became contentious. Or derailed a thread so far.

I said GSSF is fun. Opinion. I also said people use sleeper race guns in GSSF stock divisions. That’s a fact.

I said a sleeper race gun is a scummy advantage. That is an opinion.

You said the “1911 vs. revolver” illustration was hogwash. That’s an assertion of fact or opinion or both. I disagree because the difference is comparable. A gun with a light, crisp trigger and purpose-tuned recoil impulse compares favorably to a longer, heavier trigger with a stiffer +P/NATO spec recoil system. Much like a single-action semi-auto compares to a DA revolver with a fixed barrel.

In GSSF, the top Competition shooters usually beat the top Stock shooters consistently by five to fifteen seconds total. It’s an average of 10-20% overall.

I provided my experience for context. I have shot a lot of matches. In my USPSA experience, comparable shooters (e.g. A-Class or M in REV versus the same in Single Stack) post hit factors that reflect a similar 10-20% advantage. It also carries over to IDPA with respect to times posted by wheelies versus the CDP folks.

I used an analogous example of a TSO versus a 75B. One is far easier to shoot well, at speed, than the other, despite being similar in form factor. It’s no different an analogy than comparing a stock Challenger to a Hellcat on the quarter-mile. The same driver would post measurably faster times with the SRT. And, it would be super scummy to sleeper mod a Hellcat and run in a quarter-mile stock division.

Never said USPSA guys could or would use equipment made by CZ in GSSF. That’s not even possible. GSSF is for Glocks.

GSSF divides guns up based on size, caliber, and performance enhancements. Internal aftermarket upgrades are meant to be shot in Competition guns. Some people cheat by using modified equipment in the Stock categories. That conveys a measurable advantage, and in my experience, GSSF was not very strict on inspections or enforcing the rules. That’s all I wanted to communicate to the OP. Sorry to @NKD that my chosen illustrative comparison made you unhappy.

Look, I respect your opinion and know you are a knowledgeable competition shooter. I enjoy your posts and ususally agree with them.

Nothing you said made me unhappy. Or mad, or emotional, or in any way had a negative impact on my day. This is a gun forum, lots of us shoot guns, and we sometimes disagree. That's ok. I hope that's ok with you. No apologies or anything necessary.

Now, back to GSSF and gamer guns: my understanding is that they have different divisions. Ones for stock guns and ones for guns with aftermarket triggers.
So, if people are cheating (which is what using parts not allowed in a division is), then they should be easily caught as all these matches have a glock armorer and this would take about 5 seconds to clear up.

The best shooters there will score the best. You could even go there, mix up all the guns of the competitors, and the best shooters are still going to score best.

A Master with a glock 17 and a .25 cent trigger job is going to do usually beat d-a class no matter what trigger or gun they have. They reason I believe this is because I have seen this many many many times. And most of the A class or better Glock shooters I know (many) don't really use crazy light triggers. Most use basic cleaned up Glock triggers. They are not a disadvantage, imo.

Shooters should concentrate on shooting their guns and not worry at all about what better/other shooters are using. These are basic stages with no movement, no drawing and should be easy to accomplish with a basic Glock 17. It's like 3 stages and 80 rounds.

This is all my opinion and I am no expert.
 
Not to ring the bell on this sparring match, but I've shot in GSSF matches for the last 8 years. They are plenty of fun and easy to shoot. Maybe the best thing about the match is the Glock armorer that is always there and will work on or tune up your pistol. They will replace all parts except frame, slide and mags for free.Targets are big and kinda close. The hardest part is combining speed and accuracy. I won a pistol in my first match so that set the hook on me. The last few years I made significant improvements in my times but that was because of all the ammo i burned up practicing to shoot a gun I really don't like shooting. Still a great way to spend an afternoon. There are lots of shooters who travel hundreds of miles to shoot these matches . Give it a try.
 
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