More advice on hunting from agents of the king

[Ikarus1]

http://www.wctrib.com/news/4361852-...uring-deer-hunting-trip-his#.WhMfREir5E8.link

All the emotional elements are there: children, bald eagles, and ecofriendly.

"also talked a lot about using copper bullets. I explained to her how we as a family have been using copper bullets for a decade. I explained to her that before I had retired from my job as a Minnesota Department of Natural Resources conservation officer, I routinely received numerous calls on sick or dead bald eagles just after the firearms deer season. I would send these birds to the University of Minnesota's Raptor Center."


I call BS on routinely getting called over sick eagles. More Sierra club and Peta sponsored propaganda

 

[Ikarus1]

Love this part too
" When she asked, "Why don't all deer hunters stop using lead bullets and replace them with copper?" I didn't have a good answer. I told her I didn't know why. Even after years of letting hunters know the dangers of lead in gut piles, showing them that copper bullets outperform most lead bullets and are now equal in price to good quality lead cartridges, hunters in huge percentages continue to use lead bullets."

Mmmm maybe because of lead's superior density vs mass, proven ballistics over nearly a hundred years of reloading data, ability to cast your own, not to mention economy and availability?

1. If you don't know why, then don't speak of which you don't know
2. If you don't reload or are not a ballistician, then don't speak of copper outperforming lead.

Sure barnes has been making strides and the TTSX and TSX and Tac-X are excellent choices, but there are 10s of hundreds of other choices that come 100 to a box for the same price as 50 barnes.

 

[chiefjason]

Soooooooooooo, a lot of hunters in MN gut shooting their deer? I've never gutted a deer that had a round in the guts. And the lungs are not enough to stop them either. Only thing that stops them, if they stop at all, is the shoulders or the hide. I was picking out bullet fragments from a shoulder tonight. Bald Eagles are scavengers. As such, they end up eating some rather nasty things. It should not be surprising that some of them have problems. BTW, does he get any calls about vultures? Hawks? Raccoons? Possums? Skunks?

 

[Tailhunter]

Bunch of political bs.

I hate this stuff and they brain wash the kids along the way.

 

[Ikarus1]

Bunch of political bs.

I hate this stuff and they brain wash the kids along the way.

but but but, we're doing it FOR the kids donchaknow.

Kinda like in the late 2000s when they BANNED child-sized ATVs because the BATTERY contained (GASP!) LEAD! All those window lickers riding ATVs had to settle for riding Dad's 500cc 4x4 ATV.....
and then the death rate went up for kids under 12, voila self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[11B CIB]

Love this part too
" When she asked, "Why don't all deer hunters stop using lead bullets and replace them with copper?" I didn't have a good answer. I told her I didn't know why. Even after years of letting hunters know the dangers of lead in gut piles, showing them that copper bullets outperform most lead bullets and are now equal in price to good quality lead cartridges, hunters in huge percentages continue to use lead bullets."

Mmmm maybe because of lead's superior density vs mass, proven ballistics over nearly a hundred years of reloading data, ability to cast your own, not to mention economy and availability?

1. If you don't know why, then don't speak of which you don't know
2. If you don't reload or are not a ballistician, then don't speak of copper outperforming lead.

Sure barnes has been making strides and the TTSX and TSX and Tac-X are excellent choices, but there are 10s of hundreds of other choices that come 100 to a box for the same price as 50 barnes.

Yeah my box of 50ct Barnes TTSX was as much as a 100ct box of TIPPED Match Kings a couple months back