Museum of African American history

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  1. Tailhunter

    Tailhunter I am a Trapper Charter Member Supporting Member

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    This is the weirdest list of common sense and nonsense dichotomy I think I've ever seen?

    Plus it's from 1990?

    My head hurts.....
     
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    DCGallim Resident Smart-A$$

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    I would say I was raised to be a do all those things. I’m doing my best to teach my children the same.
     
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    MacEntyre Shoot on Sight! Charter Member Vendor

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    Win at all costs?

    That's a White Attribute?
     
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    JimB Picking it up slowly. Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    And so what should it be instead, and so what?
     
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    Charlie Member

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    I suppose that means that non-Whites should not have any of those characteristics. That explains a lot.

    Edit: That makes Whiteness and Blackness not a matter of skin color or ancestry but rather strictly a matter of behavior.
     
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    Sigequinox220 Well-Known Member Benefactor

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    Independent, hard working, scientifically-minded problem solving with strong sense of family is not “black”?

    well, I guess I am racist after all. I tend to unconditionally dislike people who are co-dependent, lazy, emotional reactionaries who have no pride in parenting.

    they said it, NOT me.
     
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    charliesgrave 7,62x39 Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    I don't understand the point of this.
     
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    You just described my nephew and his useless girlfriend who have a beautiful daughter they are turning into a fast food junky like themselves.
     
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    noway2 Senior Member Charter Life Member

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    Right from the BLM website: to demand the right to reject a wage based lifestyle.
     
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    Everyone has that right now. Just don't work and be in poverty.

    Do not expect me to pay you for it.
     
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    Aardvark Fiery but Mostly Peaceful Supporting Member

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    This could be a really interesting philosophical discussion if these cats would acknowledge as a starting point that 99.9% of human history has been a life of grinding poverty under brutal oppression. What is their vision of a just society, what and/or who funds it, and where can we find an example of such a societal success? Western Culture didn't invent war, poverty, oppression, or any of the failings of humanity, but rather has addressed them with stunning progress, relative to all other cultures. Could we be having more fun without the drive of Western values, Puritan work ethic, and the Judeo/Christian ethos that led to the Magna Charta and then our Declaration/Constitution and the groundbreaking ideas of fairness that those represent? Maybe so.

    I'd like to hear it coming from the people that are blaming the system that's funding their unhappiness. What does their "ideal" look like? Would the shallow self-indulgence I see among today's "dependent" turn into something noble, just, and satisfying? I'm skeptical, but I'm willing to listen and debate. I'm just not willing to be mugged by someone who can't articulate why.
     
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    Sigequinox220 Well-Known Member Benefactor

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    i suppose after seeing this, it would not only be okay, but politically correct, to tell them their “cultural blackness” is showing
     
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    DCGallim Resident Smart-A$$

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    Side note I hate the phrase "Judeo Christian values", just because somethings line up doesn't mean they all do. Christian values and Muslim values are more inline than anything.
     
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    Ferrisfan Got here as soon as I could Supporting Member

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    A lot of this list is "capitalist" rather than "white" to me. Also, it appears that Asians are kicking our asses at being white.
     
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    I'm no holy-roller and I understand the hostility that phrase can trigger. What, as an alternative, do you believe the Magna Carta was based on?
     
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    This document is doing exactly as its authors intended: stirring you guys up.
     
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    DCGallim Resident Smart-A$$

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    I'd say just Christian values. If you look at the Jewish community as a whole the values don't really line up. I understand there are some folks that do.
     
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    Stir us up so we can see the errors of our ways and change ourselves? NOT. It does show the shallowness of their thinking and the divisiveness of their intentions. Perhaps we should, based on their requests, reinstitute segregation? I like the way I am, and they want to pretend that they like the way they are. Fine. Let us agree to disagree and go our separate ways. They can have California for their very own.
     
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    Is there a point to this being posted at a black museum? Except to point out the reason for the systemic failures in their communities!
     
  21. Ikarus1

    Ikarus1 Avtomat Krishna-kov

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    Sounds like alot of jealousy framing success as wrong, and people that grew up without daddy showing their daddy issues. IDGAF if that paints me as misogynistic, racist, or whatever your label du jour is today. I've worked hard, overcame hardship, prospered in the face of adversity, and will make no apology to anyone for any of that.

    PS Those donors to that cause should continue in their belief and hope that racist museum doesn't have a mishap with THEIR history being erased. It can happen.
     
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    Sigequinox220 Well-Known Member Benefactor

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    uhhh, WTF does that even mean? Now the concept of working in exchange for currency is white? or at the very least, 'Not black'? lol. Currency is an ancient human construct/technology dating back 5,000+ years. I mean, I know they claim 'their people are behind' but I didn't quite realize the extent of the problem until now. This has officially "woke" me. I realize now I need to do my part to advance a race 50 centuries [/sarc]
     
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  23. Tailhunter

    Tailhunter I am a Trapper Charter Member Supporting Member

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    I have no idea of the trigger, can you shed some light on this for me?
     
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    @DCGallim explains his objection to it above. With some, invoking anything religious, especially Christian, is an affront to their sense of being "more sophisticated" than all that sky God stuff, giving them a gleeful license of derision. Others see it as a system of oppression... Do I need to go on?
     
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    I took it to mean that they think everyone should simply accept that they either subside by holding their hand out for gimmies or engage in criminal activity to take what they want. That's. Not. Going. To. Happen.
     
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    Desired result; Have everyone blindly and without question accept shame and complete compliance.

    Actual result; Have everyone despise you when they never did before.

    Also see; "how to make great enemy's out of good friends"
    Available on Simon & Schuster paperback and kindle.
     
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    Nope, just never known anyone that was so bothered by it before. But then again, I don’t hang out with too many people to start with.
     
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    Curt @gunbelt sent this to me a few days back and nowhere is it more appropriate than this thread.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Um... is it not obvious that antebellum US slavery was a rejection of a wage based lifestyle?

    So, they want a return to that?
     
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    Crazy Carl seriously? Life Member

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    Yes, but with them in charge. They're just keeping that on the down-low for now.
     
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    I haven't tried very hard to do so, but I don't understand this post at all.
     
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    Not to get side tracked, but serious question. How so?
     
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    Muslims hold high esteem of Jesus and Mary, believe in the Holy Spirit, heaven and hell. They are wrong on the extent of their views on Jesus. Views on sin are very similar. Their views are extremely conservative were we as Christians have gone very liberal. I believe Islam’s treatment of the weakest of people is abhorrent
     
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    I grew up with a Jewish guy and worked with him and a dozen other Jewish guys my age for about 13 years. I honestly can’t say that I know any Islamics like I know those guys. I will say I have no idea why my Jewish friends continually vote for the “other” political party, but their work ethic and family values alone are superior to many if not most others.
     
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    richardlc Happy to be here

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    Christian. Nothing Judaic or Zionist about the Magna Carta or Christendom.
     
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    but they Are also an abhorrent, malevolently violent people who blow up babies in markets. Wouldn’t exactly go out of my way to compare myself with them.

    it was only until very recently that liberals have actually surpassed Muslims to take the #1 slot for broad group of people that conditionally disgust me.
     
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    Serious question: Are you making the distinction between the Magna Carta being based on Natural Law rather than Mosaic Law ?
     
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    Absolutely. Mosaic and Talmudic Law has no place in Christendom, neither should their particular legal theories have any bearing on US law. Precedent is an abomination birthed by Talmudic scholars.

    Regarding the signage posted above. I'm a proud WASP whose family has been in the US since we founded Rhinebeck, NY. I don't hate them because of their skin color but I damn sure am coming to hate them for their so-called culture.
     
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    Anybody know if they have any other flyers for other races? Man that would a good point to know and/or see.

    Also, the author of all that is white. I'm becoming more convinced than ever that the next great problem for minority and poor communities will the the repercussion of the stupid and destructive policies that white guilt will foist upon them. White racists could never devastate those communities like "well intended" guilty white people will succeed in doing. SMDH
     
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