Something I have been pondering on as of late...
I do believe that our founding fathers set the constitution up in such a way that it could be changed over time to fit the ebbs and flows of an ever changing society. Otherwise, the amendment process wouldn't even exist. They did, however, make it so that changing or removing something from the Constitution could not be done at the whim of the majority in order to infringe on the freedoms of others. In short, I feel the constitution was set up with frame work of freedom and liberty along with the capacity to grow and mutate over generations.
In my mind, this means that the founding fathers truly did have in their minds the possibility that over time peoples beliefs, needs, values, and desires may or may not change or evolve, and with that their government should as well. So, in a way, I see nothing specifically incorrect with people who want to change the constitution or amend it to fit a changed society.
HOWEVER: I want proof that society has changed. Convince me that we are a kinder, gentler people who no longer need an individual right to own firearms.
To do this the opposition must:
1. Stop referring to Trump/Republicans as Nazis, dictators, tyrants, evil, and destructors of the free world. Because these things are specifically enumerated as the reason we have firearms in the first place...to defend us from these things. You >cannot< claim that tyranny doesn't exist, and in the next breath call the leader of the free world a tyrant.
2. Next, I want to see the rate of suicides amongst children due to bullying decline significantly. As of now, internet and social media bullying has significantly increased. It isn't a sign of a kinder and gentler generation that is now experiencing 4,400 bullying related deaths per year, with far more suicide attempts that fail. It is not a sign of a kinder and gentler society that leads an estimated 160,000 kids to stay home from school each day due to fear of bullies. According to ABC, nearly 30 % of all students are either bullies, or victims of bullying. With numbers like this, I am actually impressed that fewer kids snap each day and go on a rampage. So dont claim to be "kinder and gentler" when you are literally killing each other through physical and emotional abuse on a daily basis.
3. Next, we can admit that abortion is killing babies. Enough of the "its just a clump of cells" garbage. If you will prosecute someone for double murder for killing a pregnant woman, but in the next breath claim that the child isnt really a "person" if the mom makes the choice then you are being intellectually dishonest. Then, explain how voluntarily murdering thousands of kids per year is somehow morally superior to allowing people to choose their own self defense method. You have to convince me that a much "loved" organization that has killed 8,000,000 children since 1970 is somehow a sign of a kinder, gentler society.
4. You then will need to explain why (if we are so morally and ethically superior to people 240 years ago that we no longer need firearms) the cities in this nation with some of the strictest gun control laws experience some of the highest rates of crime. You have to explain to me that when violent crime is so easily mapped to specific areas, that I who do not live in those areas, or contribute to the violence in them, am somehow responsible and should lose access to my belongings due to it.
5. You will then need to explain to em how, if we are so morally and ethically superior than our forefathers that we no longer need firearms why the depiction of violence is so popular in our media and musical industries. If we have evolved away from the evils of violence, then why do our top grossing movies revolve around war, murder, horror, abuse, and firearms? Why do many of our most popular songs center around drug use, violence, abusing women, and killing others? Why are so many top TV shows about crime, crime scene investigation, the mafia, gangsters, gangs, and other deviants?
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I do believe that our founding fathers set the constitution up in such a way that it could be changed over time to fit the ebbs and flows of an ever changing society. Otherwise, the amendment process wouldn't even exist. They did, however, make it so that changing or removing something from the Constitution could not be done at the whim of the majority in order to infringe on the freedoms of others. In short, I feel the constitution was set up with frame work of freedom and liberty along with the capacity to grow and mutate over generations.
In my mind, this means that the founding fathers truly did have in their minds the possibility that over time peoples beliefs, needs, values, and desires may or may not change or evolve, and with that their government should as well. So, in a way, I see nothing specifically incorrect with people who want to change the constitution or amend it to fit a changed society.
HOWEVER: I want proof that society has changed. Convince me that we are a kinder, gentler people who no longer need an individual right to own firearms.
To do this the opposition must:
1. Stop referring to Trump/Republicans as Nazis, dictators, tyrants, evil, and destructors of the free world. Because these things are specifically enumerated as the reason we have firearms in the first place...to defend us from these things. You >cannot< claim that tyranny doesn't exist, and in the next breath call the leader of the free world a tyrant.
2. Next, I want to see the rate of suicides amongst children due to bullying decline significantly. As of now, internet and social media bullying has significantly increased. It isn't a sign of a kinder and gentler generation that is now experiencing 4,400 bullying related deaths per year, with far more suicide attempts that fail. It is not a sign of a kinder and gentler society that leads an estimated 160,000 kids to stay home from school each day due to fear of bullies. According to ABC, nearly 30 % of all students are either bullies, or victims of bullying. With numbers like this, I am actually impressed that fewer kids snap each day and go on a rampage. So dont claim to be "kinder and gentler" when you are literally killing each other through physical and emotional abuse on a daily basis.
3. Next, we can admit that abortion is killing babies. Enough of the "its just a clump of cells" garbage. If you will prosecute someone for double murder for killing a pregnant woman, but in the next breath claim that the child isnt really a "person" if the mom makes the choice then you are being intellectually dishonest. Then, explain how voluntarily murdering thousands of kids per year is somehow morally superior to allowing people to choose their own self defense method. You have to convince me that a much "loved" organization that has killed 8,000,000 children since 1970 is somehow a sign of a kinder, gentler society.
4. You then will need to explain why (if we are so morally and ethically superior to people 240 years ago that we no longer need firearms) the cities in this nation with some of the strictest gun control laws experience some of the highest rates of crime. You have to explain to me that when violent crime is so easily mapped to specific areas, that I who do not live in those areas, or contribute to the violence in them, am somehow responsible and should lose access to my belongings due to it.
5. You will then need to explain to em how, if we are so morally and ethically superior than our forefathers that we no longer need firearms why the depiction of violence is so popular in our media and musical industries. If we have evolved away from the evils of violence, then why do our top grossing movies revolve around war, murder, horror, abuse, and firearms? Why do many of our most popular songs center around drug use, violence, abusing women, and killing others? Why are so many top TV shows about crime, crime scene investigation, the mafia, gangsters, gangs, and other deviants?
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