Navy reviewing aviator call signs....

Best and most useful sentence in that story:

"The investigation determined the eggplant had been meant as a phallic symbol, not a racial one. Paired with a cork-popping champagne bottle emoji in the chat, the symbols were intended to reference masturbation, not the Marine pilot and the canopy incident, the probe concluded. However, the discussions were evidence of a broader lack of inclusion and professionalism, Miller decided."

LMAO my 14 year old knew that 3 years ago. Maybe not about the cork popping part but definitely the eggplant.
 
This is probably where the investigation should have started and ended.

“A Marine major who was a member of the group and interviewed by investigators was unapologetic.

"That's the price to pay in this community. You do stupid s--t, you get made fun of. Or you kill self/others," he said, according to the investigation. "His attrition was his small price to pay. Frankly, we did his ass (and the community's) a favor. But his bulls--t makes me professionally embarrassed."”
 
There are still elements within the Navy that are elitist and harbor racist thought. The fighter community is one. It just is. Tailhook changed so much, but changed so little.
 
There are still elements within the Navy that are elitist and harbor racist thought. The fighter community is one. It just is. Tailhook changed so much, but changed so little.
Of course they are elitist, I don’t really have an issue with that. That they are racist is a problem as there is no benefit to being so.
 
There are still elements within the Navy that are elitist and harbor racist thought. The fighter community is one. It just is. Tailhook changed so much, but changed so little.

I can’t speak for the jet jocks, only personal experience in the VP community. I saw no evidence of racism whatsoever, elitism, sure, aviators ARE elite.


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I can’t speak for the jet jocks, only personal experience in the VP community. I saw no evidence of racism whatsoever, elitism, sure, aviators ARE elite.


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Nor is it in the helo community, which is what I was exposed to the most. I 'heard' things around Oceana and Cherry Point so the allegations aren't terribly surprising, but definitely saddening.

I try to not feed into the 'elite' thing. Aviation, subs, NSW, nukes, if everyone is special, no one is special.
 
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If you can’t put up with razing and bullshit, maybe the military just ain’t for you! Do something stupid and you’ll get your balls busted. Simple as that.
 
@Spartan01 @Hammer21b , it wasn't 'just' call signs. They were also given evaluations marked lower than the same evaluations for non-black pilots. I don't mind call signs that sting, but you can do that and not be racist-not-racist-just-kidding kinda stuff.

We had a corpsman when I was attached to recon, he was (I assume still is) black. He went to BUDS, did a few years with the teams before he cross-decked to recon. He said when he was at BUDS he crushed all the PT gates, but was consistently marked down by one instructor for "attitude" and not putting out 100%. He didn't say squat, but the instructor was reassigned when other instructors noticed. To his credit, he never quit, and he said once he got past STT and boards, it was all good. Bullshit like this, there is zero room for, in any military job/community.
 
You wanna know how all the fun gets taken out of such things as coming up with call signs, custom art work aboard ships, and the like?

This is how.

Congratulations, aviators... you STILL haven't learned anything since 1992 when you managed to turn "Tradition, Integrity, and Professionalism" on it's head for the entire Navy.

"He directed the Chief of Naval Air Training to have all training command and fleet replacement squadrons in the Navy formalize a call sign assignment and review process within 90 days, including appropriate peer board representation for minority and female aviators."

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Oh, and lest any he think I'm being wishy-washy about the subject of hazing and whatnot, far from it.

I spent 20 years as a nuke aboard submarines.

But professionalism has its place.
 
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