NC—- Colt Combat Commander 9mm

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Probably best described as “pre 80s” as the internals are 70 series (I think). The serial numbers are 80BSxxxxx. It is a little on the scarce side and maybe collectible.
 
Bill said:
Colt did build such a gun. I own a Colt series 70 9mm commander - a Talo Wiley Clapp.
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With a collet bushing and an "Accurizer" barrel?

Don't think so. Not Colt.


Louden Swain said:
as the internals are 70 series
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The internals of the pre-80s are original spec and will interchange with a 1911 built from 1911 through 1983, when the Series 80s appeared.

"Series70" has come to be a quick way of saying that it doesn't have the Series 80 lawyer parts, but Series 70 means that the gun was factory fitted with the collet bushing and the Accurizer barrel, which was the forerunner of today's barrels with the flared section at the muzzle. All Series 70 pistols were five inch guns...Government Model or Gold Cup. During the transition to Series 80, Colt...never being given to wasting good parts...did release a few Series 80s that had the Series 70 barrels and bushings, technically making them Series 70/80 pistols, but all were roll marked Series 80.

Neither is there any such thing as a Series 79/70 Series Springfield or RIA, et al. Series 70 and Series 8o are Colt trademarks.

At some point, someone...can't remember who offhand...did manufacture a collet bushing that was shortened to fit within the Commander's confines nd work with the modern flared barrel, but Colt had nothing to do with it and there weren't many of them.

Why make an issue of it?

If somebody asks his gun dealer to let him know the minute he gets in a decent Series 70 Commander and the dealer doesn't know the difference, he may let a few nice pre-80 Commanders come and go without making the call to his valued customer...because he'll be looking for a rollmark that he'll never see. I knew of that happening once about 10 years ago.
 
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Sounds like you know more about this than I do so I will defer to your opinion and edit the post. - my pistol is absent a couple of the lawyer parts internally and I did assume that meant series 70. Thanks for the heads up. Sweet shooter and trigger like breaking glass.
 
Wasn't tryin' to bust balls. Just tryin' to educate. I've been pretty surprised at the number of people who don't know what a Series 70 Colt actually is...or was. The term has been so misused in the last 20 years that I actually wish I'd held onto the pair that I had many years ago for display and demo purposes.

I had a pre-80 Combat Commander in .38 Super at one time and obtained a 9mm barrel for it. All I had to do was use the right magazines and I was in like Flint. Fun gun...and another one that got away in a weak/broke moment.
 
John Travis said:
I've been pretty surprised at the number of people who don't know what a Series 70 Colt actually is...or was.
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Add to this the Commander/Combat Commander. New guns only say Commander. In the 60s and 70s when I was heavily into the 1911 platform for daily carry a Commander Meant Light Weight...Period. Today it ain't that way. I recently bought a gun I Thought was one thing that turned out not to be.
While terminology might seem like nit picking to some, it actually Means something. It is important to get it right.
An old "nit" to me was 38 Super vs Super 38. Every barrel of every Colt in that caliber has always said Super 38. It means something.
 
John Travis said:
With a collet bushing and an "Accurizer" barrel?

Don't think so. Not Colt.




The internals of the pre-80s are original spec and will interchange with a 1911 built from 1911 through 1983, when the Series 80s appeared.

"Series70" has come to be a quick way of saying that it doesn't have the Series 80 lawyer parts, but Series 70 means that the gun was factory fitted with the collet bushing and the Accurizer barrel, which was the forerunner of today's barrels with the flared section at the muzzle. All Series 70 pistols were five inch guns...Government Model or Gold Cup. During the transition to Series 80, Colt...never being given to wasting good parts...did release a few Series 80s that had the Series 70 barrels and bushings, technically making them Series 70/80 pistols, but all were roll marked Series 80.

Neither is there any such thing as a Series 79/70 Series Springfield or RIA, et al. Series 70 and Series 8o are Colt trademarks.

At some point, someone...can't remember who offhand...did manufacture a collet bushing that was shortened to fit within the Commander's confines nd work with the modern flared barrel, but Colt had nothing to do with it and there weren't many of them.

Why make an issue of it?

If somebody asks his gun dealer to let him know the minute he gets in a decent Series 70 Commander and the dealer doesn't know the difference, he may let a few nice pre-80 Commanders come and go without making the call to his valued customer...because he'll be looking for a rollmark that he'll never see. I knew of that happening once about 10 years ago.
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I have a 1984 Government Model with the collet bushing and the Accurizer barrel. I figured they were just using up old parts.
 
Interested, got any idea on the age?
 
John Travis said:
All the pistols equipped with the collet bushing and accurizer barrel were five-inch guns. None were Commander length.
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I knew that, but mine is a Series 80 with the collet bushing and Accurizer barrel. It has the Series 80 stuff in the upper. 1984 is after the cut off date on the Series 70. I just figured they were still using up parts from the 70 Series guns.
 
I just posted in the classified section— meant to do that the first time but ended up here in error. Worked out ok though as the new information is welcome.
 
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