NC State rolls out Ph.D. in ‘social justice education’

As a headhunter I placed a ton of their engineers over the years, and have always had high regard for the institution.
That said, one of my sons applied and was accepted to NCSU several years ago. He ended up elsewhere for a different program, but I recall viewing their lists of electives that were listed beyond the required courses for the science program he applied to.

The longggggggg list of electives was pretty incredible, and I don't really mean that in a good way. Some of the oddball, "modern day", totally irrelevant (to me) course offerings that required a professor, classroom space, etc, etc, all subsidized by our tax dollars, really left me shaking my head.
 
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As a headhunter I placed a ton of their engineers over the years, and have always had high regard for the institution.
That said, one of my sons applied and was accepted to NCSU several years ago. He ended up elsewhere for a different program, but I recall viewing their lists of electives that were listed beyond the required courses for the science program he applied to.

The longggggggg list of electives was pretty incredible, and I don't really mean that in a good way. Some of the oddball, "modern day", totally irrelevant (to me) course offerings that required a professor, classroom space, etc, etc all subsidized by our tax dollars, really left me shaking my head.

Unfortunately this is more/less true anywhere now.
 
The program will focus on “equity in STEM” and “scholar activism.”

Equity in STEM? STEM is completely equal. 2+2 always equals 4. You are either right or you are wrong. It doesn't matter your race, ethnicity, gender preference, or level of desire for the answer to be different. Math doesn't give a $#!t about your feelings snowflake, so study up for that test.
 
I don't recall it at a couple of private universities he was accepted to.

Every college has a liberal arts requirement though. Some are pretty basic and limited, others are very extensive. Even so-called conservative schools like USNA/USMA, etc., have some pretty out-there courses in their liberal arts requirements.
 
"Dad, why is college so expensive?"
"Well honey, its because they pay tenured professors hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to work 1 or 2 days a week teaching unmarketable skills to a group of kids who then turn around and blame society that their degree in underwater feminist basket weaving isn't providing them with the same quality of life that was provided by a father who worked in a difficult skill based job 50 hours per week. If you disagree you are a bigot."
 
The program will focus on “equity in STEM” and “scholar activism.”

Equity in STEM? STEM is completely equal. 2+2 always equals 4. You are either right or you are wrong. It doesn't matter your race, ethnicity, gender preference, or level of desire for the answer to be different. Math doesn't give a $#!t about your feelings snowflake, so study up for that test.

I’m sure they will not head in this direction, but locally the issue is course offerings. The HS’s closest to the county seat have the tech/STEM classes. And the out lying schools have career based courses. I have 2 girls interested in computers and chemical engineering. Both top of their math and science classes. And they don’t have the same options the kids on the other side of the county have. That pisses me off as a parent.


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Equity in STEM? STEM is completely equal. 2+2 always equals 4. You are either right or you are wrong. It doesn't matter your race, ethnicity, gender preference, or level of desire for the answer to be different. Math doesn't give a $#!t about your feelings snowflake, so study up for that test.
GTFO of here with your white man's science and math!

2+2 !=4 just as XY chromosomes != male

You clearly need re-education.
 
"Dad, why is college so expensive?"
"Well honey, its because they pay tenured professors hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to work 1 or 2 days a week teaching unmarketable skills to a group of kids who then turn around and blame society that their degree in underwater feminist basket weaving isn't providing them with the same quality of life that was provided by a father who worked in a difficult skill based job 50 hours per week. If you disagree you are a bigot."

Associate profs and higher in NC generally make $110-130K. Smaller schools profs make less. I don't know about what you make, but that's big money to me. Add money from writing and/or consulting, that's a pretty comfy life in many academic areas that do very little to promote the common good or add income-producing skills.

I don't have a problem with education for education sake, but I will be the first to say I do not know where to draw the line between engaging in a liberal education (not political 'liberal') and worthless crap courses. It's like art: I know it when I see it.
 
PhD = Principals and Superintendents. This is who will be hiring the teachers and setting policy.
 
Associate profs and higher in NC generally make $110-130K. Smaller schools profs make less. I don't know about what you make, but that's big money to me. Add money from writing and/or consulting, that's a pretty comfy life in many academic areas that do very little to promote the common good or add income-producing skills.

I don't have a problem with education for education sake, but I will be the first to say I do not know where to draw the line between engaging in a liberal education (not political 'liberal') and worthless crap courses. It's like art: I know it when I see it.

Its especially wonderful considering you teach maybe 2-3 times per week, have student assistants, have tenure, summers/holidays off, time to write and do whatever else you want. I had some great professors. Worth every dime. I also had some who were riding the gravy train of tenure and apathy.
 
The church i used to attend has a social justice ministry. What they do i have no idea. My wife used to go to their meetings. I quit going to the church after they went left of left. The whole national organization did as well. 25% of the congregations left the national organization after that.
 
PhD = Principals and Superintendents. This is who will be hiring the teachers and setting policy.

PhD...post hole diggers; got two of em and they'll wear your ass out if we haven't had any rain for a while.
 
They are officially launching a PhD in Hatred.
"Social Justice" was developed by the Soviet Union as the means by which to get the masses to protect their anger and hatred in enemies of the communist party so they would not see that the true cause of misery was the communist party.
"Social Justice" crap in the US is exactly the same thing.
It intentionally breeds the violence we see from ANTIFA fascists ann's every other violent leftist group. (Yes, fascism is a left wing totalitarian ideology)


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The program will focus on “equity in STEM” and “scholar activism.”

Equity in STEM? STEM is completely equal. 2+2 always equals 4. You are either right or you are wrong. It doesn't matter your race, ethnicity, gender preference, or level of desire for the answer to be different. Math doesn't give a $#!t about your feelings snowflake, so study up for that test.
Irony. In the entire time my daughter was studying physics and math, the only students that have her crap for studying physics were women.
The only professors that tried to get her to change majors were in the Department of Useless Degrees.

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As a student in a public UNC university right now pursuing a masters in a STEM field, I could probably shed some insight into this.

There is a big push to bring more women into computing. Articles about it in the school newspaper, seminars, studies, and some feminist English majors working in the department.... Doesn't go anywhere, no one attends, takes it seriously.

I view it as throwing money into the fire to make sure no one can claim they aren't doing it. Most Stem students mock it, a professor pushing it admitted to me after he got a different job at a different university was that he was just pretending to keep admins happy. I bet it's the same with most of those in staff and faculty, mouth the words, and get on to the real work, never actually implement the things they are told to put in the syllabus.

And we had, I think, three-five non stem classes, the majority is Stem.
 
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The longggggggg list of electives was pretty incredible, and I don't really mean that in a good way. Some of the oddball, "modern day", totally irrelevant (to me) course offerings that required a professor, classroom space, etc, etc, all subsidized by our tax dollars, really left me shaking my head.
^^^ The number of useless electives is simply the excuse for giving salaries to a bunch of professional protestors, complainers, and rabble rousers.
The program will focus on “equity in STEM” and “scholar activism.”
Oops, the feminists hate the hard sciences because they can't readily just plug women into those areas to equalize the number of men and women. It's easy to conjure up a bogus class like a "Feminist Perspective on Egyptian History" but not so easy to create a "Feminist Approach to Nuclear Physics."
 
There is a big push to bring more women into computing.
You see this agenda clearly in the movies and TV.

The best example is Wakanda, where their best scientist, best technologist, best neurosurgeon is all the same person - a teenage black female.
 
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Jeez. These people will be more insufferable than a Jehova’s Witness vegan crossfitter.
 
As a student in a public UNC university right now pursuing a masters in a STEM field, I could probably shed some insight into this.

There is a big push to bring more women into computing. Articles about it in the school newspaper, seminars, studies, and some feminist English majors working in the department.... Doesn't go anywhere, no one attends, takes it seriously.

I view it as throwing money into the fire to make sure no one can claim they aren't doing it. Most Stem students mock it, a professor pushing it admitted to me after he got a different job at a different university was that he was just pretending to keep admins happy. I bet it's the same with most of those in staff and faculty, mouth the words, and get on to the real work, never actually implement the things they are told to put in the syllabus.

And we had, I think, three-five non stem classes, the majority is Stem.
UNCG was the only school where the physics department head actually called my daughter and talked to her about the UNCG undergrad physics program and and convince to come.
It was a good move. UNCG has a far tougher undergrad physics program than NC State. She had classmates who were retaking classes at UNCG because they didn't learn anything in the supposed same class at NC State. State teaches to test. UNCG teaches how to learn physics. The head of the physics department and the professors were very good at identifying students that should change majors during the first semester of the freshman year. My daughter and one of her friends were not among those who were told they should change majors. On the contrary, they saw more in my daughter than she saw in herself. She graduated last spring with a BS in physics and a minor in math.
The program is so rigorous that the professors recommend that students take a year off before graduate school.
In the fall of 2019 my daughter wishes to study condensed matter physics.
Generally, women are the enemy of women in STEM. Women ridiculed and mocked my daughter for studying physics. Women tried to get her to change her major. And women were the worst math professors she had. It is not sexism. There science to back this up too. The distribution curve on math test scores is flatter for men than for women. That means there are more men who are math geniuses, but al more math dunces than women.
 
The distribution curve on math test scores is flatter for men than for women. That means there are more men who are math geniuses, but al more math dunces than women.
Not just math. We see the same flatter distribution for men than women for IQ.

In the real world, we see this all the time. The absolute dumbest people most of us know will be male.

When feminists say they want equality with men, they mean they want equality with only the very best of men.
 
Not just math. We see the same flatter distribution for men than women for IQ.

In the real world, we see this all the time. The absolute dumbest people most of us know will be male.

When feminists say they want equality with men, they mean they want equality with only the very best of men.
They certainly don't want equality of on the job fatality rates either. Over 90% are been, not including military.
Men do the most dangerous jobs.
Another fact, female police officers are substantially over represented in officer involved shootings. Because they don't have the physical strength to fend of a large male criminal, they shoot sooner.
Same is probably true with substantially out of shape male LEO.

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GTFO of here with your white man's science and math!

2+2 !=4 just as XY chromosomes != male

You clearly need re-education.
I promise not to use white man math for the next sjw meeting house I build. Gaia, willing it will stand up with good energy instead of proper reinforcement. And if it doesn’t.....inshallah....
 
There is a big push to bring more women into computing. Articles about it in the school newspaper, seminars, studies, and some feminist English majors working in the department.... Doesn't go anywhere, no one attends, takes it seriously.
Girls will get into those things if they want to. End of discussion. All that needs to be said. There isn’t the rampant and blatant discrimination today.

When you start out with the idea that everyone is equal and hence should be equally represented according to population distribution, the only answer for disparity is prejudice and discrimination.
 
Girls will get into those things if they want to. End of discussion. All that needs to be said. There isn’t the rampant and blatant discrimination today.

When you start out with the idea that everyone is equal and hence should be equally represented according to population distribution, the only answer for disparity is prejudice and discrimination.
Once the Chinese government stopped selecting college for the people based on test scores and started letting them choose, female enrollment in engineering plummeted.

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Women in STEM is only an issue when people make it an issue. Women are heavily represented in Duke's egineering programs; no one important cares. The people who care are people who feel threatened.
 
Women in STEM is only an issue when people make it an issue. Women are heavily represented in Duke's egineering programs; no one important cares. The people who care are people who feel threatened.
But in engineering it still tends to hover around 10-20% depending on the discipline.
Wives don't mind that engineering conferences are 90% men.
In my decades of experience, American women rarely stay in design engineering. They almost always move to marketing or project management, which pays less than the design side.

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When I was at NCSU I met women in all departments, but most of them were in Education(teachers) and Textiles(fashion). I agree with the free electives that NCSU has is a bit much. It was frustrating to have to choose from free electives that wouldn’t directly contribute to my field in order get my degree.
The end result from this was students either picking ones that they had interest in or known easy classes( fluff) that would help boost your gpa. Having a great gpa could be the difference between having a job or not at graduation.
 
When I was at NCSU I met women in all departments, but most of them were in Education(teachers) and Textiles(fashion). I agree with the free electives that NCSU has is a bit much. It was frustrating to have to choose from free electives that wouldn’t directly contribute to my field in order get my degree.
The end result from this was students either picking ones that they had interest in or known easy classes( fluff) that would help boost your gpa. Having a great gpa could be the difference between having a job or not at graduation.
My son found out that some professors who believe students think their course is "fluff" seem to have a mission to fail as many students as possible. Essentially the students have to teach themselves or be psychic.

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I agree with the free electives that NCSU has is a bit much. It was frustrating to have to choose from free electives that wouldn’t directly contribute to my field in order get my degree.


I thoroughly enjoyed every non-major course I took. I even enjoyed philosophy.

They're like a refreshing breather, a chance to use the right brain for a few hours.
 
Women in STEM is only an issue when people make it an issue. Women are heavily represented in Duke's egineering programs; no one important cares. The people who care are people who feel threatened.

One of the teachers at my daughters HS has a theory. He said most of the girls lag behind the boys in HS science. He thinks it’s either development of could be lack of interest too. The ones that do well really stand out. And tend to get positive attention from teachers for it. If that’s the case, a poor experience in HS science would do a good job of pushing you out of those fields in college.


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