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The new Ford Ranger looks interesting. But it only comes with the expensive to operate and maintain turbo.
4X4 will run close to what one will pay for a RAM1500 4X4 with a HEMI when you look at the dealer dicounts on RAM. But there won't be any discounts on the Ranger.
Still, it does mark a return to the mid size truck sector. I'd get a Ranger before I'd ever consider a Colorado from Chevy.
Lots of videos on YT doing reviews.



2019 Ford® Ranger Midsize Pickup Truck | The All-New Small Truck is Back | Ford.com
 
how is it expensive to operate and maintain?
Ive had turbo cars before, they arent that much different than a naturally aspirated car. Just give it time to cool down (a minute) at the end of each drive and youre good.

I like it though, reminds me of a late 90s F150
 
HMP said:
how is it expensive to operate and maintain?
Ive had turbo cars before, they arent that much different than a naturally aspirated car. Just give it time to cool down (a minute) at the end of each drive and youre good.

I like it though, reminds me of a late 90s F150
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Ford has had issues with this turbo as mileage increases
 
jmccracken1214 said:
Ford has had issues with this turbo as mileage increases
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Ive heard of some problems with some of the ecoboost, but would assume they are always working on correcting the issue, as they have on other models (4cyl fwd models)
 
Supposedly it is using the same engine that the Focus RS has been using for the last couple years.
 
The first pic in the link looks like a tundra. Blech!
 
kcult said:
The first pic in the link looks like a tundra. Blech!
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No way man that thing is a Honda Ridgeline wanna be.

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The price is what killed the last Ranger. I have a '99 I bought new, so it's 20 years old now. It has the 3L V6 with 5 speed trans and AC as the only option. I have spent less than 1K in total on it in 20 years. The problem with the last ones was when at the end they cost the same as an F150.
 
Whatever happened to variety and creative design? This is why I like the Jeep truck so much. The price tag, not so much.

And I bet this little metrosexual thing gets a hefty price tag as well.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
The price is what killed the last Ranger. I have a '99 I bought new, so it's 20 years old now. It has the 3L V6 with 5 speed trans and AC as the only option. I have spent less than 1K in total on it in 20 years. The problem with the last ones was when at the end they cost the same as an F150.
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I had a '94 four banger with a stick. It was a fine truck.

I think I didn't ask enough for it when I finally sold it. I was describing it to a guy that was sitting in the driver seat. He interrupted me and asked if I had the title. I told him here it is and it's already signed. He took it from me, literally tossed the money at me and drove away, leaving me standing in the yard. Lol.
 
Okay a $35-40K midsized truck with only a 4 cyclinder turbo engine and auto only. To me that makes it basically a car with a bed to carry little stuff. As to the 7,500 towing capacity with a gas 4 cyl turbo ... I’m not sure how much I’d bet on that one ... a nice little 4 cyl diesel turbo torque producer yes but gas?
 
I think I read starting price of roughly $25k.
I like the idea of the compact crew cabs for my small family and common need to haul dirty or bulky but not huge cargo, or traverse unimproved roads.
I just can't get past the price of them, and I prefer not to be stuck with an automatic.
 
Unless you really want one, wait one more year for any problems to shake down.

With synthetic oils, problems of conventional oil cooking inside the turbo after shutdown are gone.
 
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This is what a Ranger is supposed to look like. Both size and appearance. Once I got a look at the size and appearance of the new Ranger a few months back I decided go all in and buy an F150. Gotta love a SCrew cab.

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My neighbor got a used 150 v6 2wd, same v6 that is in Mustang with 130K on it. My boss still has his Ranger the last year of production.
 
The new rangers should sell well. Look at how many tacomas are on the road, I think they look better than the ranger, but I know many older gentleman that won't buy a truck with a toyota badge. Even though many of the "import" trucks have more made in America parts than some domestic trucks.

For that price, I would go with a new half ton pickup.
 
Darkhorse said:
Boys drive Fords men drive Chevys and real men drive Dodge.
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I worked at a dealership many years ago with a Dodge showroom. The top Dodge salesman once asked, "Do you know what you get when you have 32 customers in the Dodge showroom?"

"A full set of teeth."
 
I kinda like the new ranger, but like others, I can't really get over the price. With the turbo 4 in it, I think it would be great for a run around town machine that hauls in the bed, but doesn't do much towing (lets face it, this is most trucks). I'm a little surprised to see there's not a single V6 offering. I'm not surprised that its automatic only. The manual transmission is dying in the US, and that's a shame.

As far as I know, the Nissan Frontier is the cheapest truck on the market right now, but that's probably because it hasn't been redesigned since 2005. I expect nissan to release a new truck within the year, and it will probably have a 'new truck' price tag when they do.

Fullboost21 said:
The new rangers should sell well. Look at how many tacomas are on the road, I think they look better than the ranger, but I know many older gentleman that won't buy a truck with a toyota badge. Even though many of the "import" trucks have more made in America parts than some domestic trucks.

For that price, I would go with a new half ton pickup.
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My understanding is that the Toyota Tacoma is the truck with the most American made parts in it. The Nissan Frontier is #2. Ford, Dodge, Chevy all have a lot more imported parts, and may be assembled completely in Mexico or Canada at this point.
 
RedneckFur said:
I kinda like the new ranger, but like others, I can't really get over the price. With the turbo 4 in it, I think it would be great for a run around town machine that hauls in the bed, but doesn't do much towing (lets face it, this is most trucks). I'm a little surprised to see there's not a single V6 offering. I'm not surprised that its automatic only. The manual transmission is dying in the US, and that's a shame.

As far as I know, the Nissan Frontier is the cheapest truck on the market right now, but that's probably because it hasn't been redesigned since 2005. I expect nissan to release a new truck within the year, and it will probably have a 'new truck' price tag when they do.



My understanding is that the Toyota Tacoma is the truck with the most American made parts in it. The Nissan Frontier is #2. Ford, Dodge, Chevy all have a lot more imported parts, and may be assembled completely in Mexico or Canada at this point.
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V6..? It needs a 5.0, haha!

American made percentage fluctuates year to year:
https://www.cars.com/american-made-index/
 
I would love to grab one of the current-gen Nissan Frontier Pro-4X while they're still available. 6spd manual available with the crew cab & e-locker rear end is standard with the Pro-4X. Only problem is, my '07 Frontier (2wd, crew cab 6spd) has been paid for for years & with only 111K miles, it still runs & rides like new & I just can't justify a damned truck payment.

I hate that manual transmissions are going away. I could almost rationalize a F-150 if it was available with manual trans behind the 5.0. I just don't trust slushboxes & their electronic controllers.
 
RedneckFur said:
My understanding is that the Toyota Tacoma is the truck with the most American made parts in it. The Nissan Frontier is #2. Ford, Dodge, Chevy all have a lot more imported parts, and may be assembled completely in Mexico or Canada at this point.
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One article I read stated the toyota was #2 and the F150 is the most American built truck. I went with my dad recently to purchase a new f150, and the salesman made a point to mention that. He also said there is one F150 sold every 30 seconds in the USA, 24/7/365. Although he already knew what he was going buy, and didn't even look at another model.
 
If it has a car engine in it that has the same camshaft profile as the engine in the car, then I'll pass. I posted the exact same sentiments in the Jeep Gladiator thread.

Turbocharged engines in off-road vehicles are great if you're blasting along the sand dunes out west at high speeds. But a turbocharged engine has to have a mild camshaft profile with low compression pistons to work effectively without detonation issues.

I'd rather have an on-road/off-road vehicle with a big low rpm torquey in-line six naturally aspirated pushrod engine. That's my preferred choice in engines for vehicles like this Ranger anyway.

I don't think they could build them fast enough if the manufacturers would build them like I outlined above.

Also, automatic transmissions are the future for cars. There's no denying that these new automatics are more efficient and can out perform their manual counterparts as far as downshifting and upshifting is concerned.

That said, the manufacturers need to keep straight gear transmissions available for the consumer in the truck and off-road market. My opinion of course.
 
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I corrected my post above. I meant Ranger not Bronco. But my same opinion applies to the newly anticipated Bronco as well.
 
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I just got done.looking over the american made auto index.......onteresting. More Hondas than anything in the Top 10. F150 was the most American Truck, Followed by Toyota Tundra. If I recall the Tundras are Madenin San Antonio or El Paso.....sombigger city on Tejas.
 
RedneckFur said:
I kinda like the new ranger, but like others, I can't really get over the price. With the turbo 4 in it, I think it would be great for a run around town machine that hauls in the bed, but doesn't do much towing (lets face it, this is most trucks). I'm a little surprised to see there's not a single V6 offering. I'm not surprised that its automatic only. The manual transmission is dying in the US, and that's a shame.

As far as I know, the Nissan Frontier is the cheapest truck on the market right now, but that's probably because it hasn't been redesigned since 2005. I expect nissan to release a new truck within the year, and it will probably have a 'new truck' price tag when they do.



My understanding is that the Toyota Tacoma is the truck with the most American made parts in it. The Nissan Frontier is #2. Ford, Dodge, Chevy all have a lot more imported parts, and may be assembled completely in Mexico or Canada at this point.
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Frontier is the lowest priced small/mid truck I have seen too. Base 4X4 around $24k. Most of the other small/mid are priced around the same as a RAM1500 with a HEMI. And they don;t get much better MPG that the RAM HEMI either.
 
The Nissan 4.0 v-6 is a stout little engine, especially with the 6-spd & 3.70 rear end. Ford offered the Ranger for a while with a 4.o v-6 that ran strong with the 5-spd manual.

What I don't get is this constant drive to super size damned trucks. Hell, my Frontier is as big as any C10 or F150 of 30 years ago. I've parked beside a Suburban & my crew cab, 6' bed 'mid sized truck' has a longer wheelbase. It's enough of a PITA to park, that I can't imagine having to park a 'full size'.
 
Crazy Carl said:
The Nissan 4.0 v-6 is a stout little engine, especially with the 6-spd & 3.70 rear end. Ford offered the Ranger for a while with a 4.o v-6 that ran strong with the 5-spd manual.

What I don't get is this constant drive to super size damned trucks. Hell, my Frontier is as big as any C10 or F150 of 30 years ago. I've parked beside a Suburban & my crew cab, 6' bed 'mid sized truck' has a longer wheelbase. It's enough of a PITA to park, that I can't imagine having to park a 'full size'.
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I drove my parents' F550 crew with an 8 foot bed. That sucker was huge! 5th wheel trailering rig.
That truck saved their lives one fateful day. The truck didn't survive. But it gave them room to survive.

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FarpinDar said:
Supposedly it is using the same engine that the Focus RS has been using for the last couple years.
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That's a hard no for me.

Qball said:
Also, automatic transmissions are the future for cars. There's no denying that these new automatics are more efficient and can out perform their manual counterparts as far as downshifting and upshifting is concerned.
That said, the manufacturers need to keep straight gear transmissions available for the consumer in the truck and off-road market. My opinion of course.
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Ford's most recent transmissions are garbage. IE the Focus, the Fiesta. No way I'd buy a truck that's using the Focus engine and Ecoboost transmission.

My 99 Ranger with 200,000+ miles will still be running when these are getting recalled and owners are bringing lawsuits against Ford for defective transmissions (see: Fiesta, Focus).
 
The biggest issue I see with the truck market is everyone wants one for some kind of image. A lot of people buy them and never really intend on using the bed at all. You don’t need a ton of power or towing capability to haul groceries around. I bought a new dodge in 2013 and within six months the bed was scratched and dinged like crazy. My dad saw it and commented that he never thought I would let it look like that. I told him I bought a truck to use the bed and wouldn’t have it any other way.
 
charliesgrave said:
Ford's most recent transmissions are garbage. IE the Focus, the Fiesta. No way I'd buy a truck that's using the Focus engine and Ecoboost transmission.

My 99 Ranger with 200,000+ miles will still be running when these are getting recalled and owners are bringing lawsuits against Ford for defective transmissions (see: Fiesta, Focus).
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I agree. Those transmissions are junk. My comment about modern car automatic transmissions outperforming modern car manual transmissions was more along the lines of a comparison between the two types of gear boxes in expensive performance vehicles and race cars, not inexpensive compact or sub-compact cars. Furthermore, obviously automatic transmissions have been a major player in many segments of the truck market over the last several decades. But as far as the light duty 4WD truck and utility vehicles are concerned, vehicles that are regularly taken off-road and heavily worked, I personally feel that a manual transmission is a better choice and more durable.
 
dman24 said:
The biggest issue I see with the truck market is everyone wants one for some kind of image. A lot of people buy them and never really intend on using the bed at all. You don’t need a ton of power or towing capability to haul groceries around. I bought a new dodge in 2013 and within six months the bed was scratched and dinged like crazy. My dad saw it and commented that he never thought I would let it look like that. I told him I bought a truck to use the bed and wouldn’t have it any other way.
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Years ago, ran into a guy at a pizza shop who had a pristine F350 Dually. He said he paid $47K for that truck and now way was he ever going to mess it up by putting anything in the bed or using it for work.
I've met Jeep Wrangler owners of a similar ilk. Spend a fortune on mods and then say no way, I spent too much to risk taking it off road.
I spent $7K upgrading my 2010 Rubicon so I COULD take it off road with less risk of damage. No chrome or plastic anywhere.
 
charliesgrave said:
That's a hard no for me.



Ford's most recent transmissions are garbage. IE the Focus, the Fiesta. No way I'd buy a truck that's using the Focus engine and Ecoboost transmission.

My 99 Ranger with 200,000+ miles will still be running when these are getting recalled and owners are bringing lawsuits against Ford for defective transmissions (see: Fiesta, Focus).
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The powershift transmissions have been dropped because of their issues

[knocking on wood] Ive been fortunate, so far, with mine. At 103k miles Ive not had any real issues, but it's not flawless
 
fishgutzy said:
BDS doesn't have a lift kit for it yet.
It appears nobody does yet.
Jeep Wranglers have lift kits ready when they hit the show rooms.
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Well that makes sense - the new Wrangler truck is still, basically, a wrangler.
This is a whole new truck that's not been released yet, hell, you cant even preorder them yet, another two weeks for the preorder. About 8 months till the release.
 
This month's Motor Trend Magazine gave SUV of the year to Jeep Wrangler. Car to Genesis and truck to Dodge. Ford sold 1.9 Million F series trucks, more than Anything. The problem again with the Ranger is the starting price. I bought 2 New 2018 F 150s in the last 6 weeks. One with phone connectivity and all that plus all power windows, doors and that. Plus 3:55 rear gear and 395 HP 5.0 with 10 speed trans. OTD for $ 26,600. 25K for the Ranger is going to be a hard sell....I think.
 
It's a performer!!!! Used Ford Racing info on exhaust change only to end up with 400+ HP. I had a '17 done the same way but for a 6 speed trans and sold it to our range Attorney and Long time friend to get the new 10 speed. MAN what a difference! As told before we have a 1/8th marked off here and so far neither truck has been out run.
 
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