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Alex.r said:
No reason to be condescending.i know there is a law regarding this ,I was asking if someone could state what law that is,not for your rude joke.
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No offense, but the last place I'd look for legal advice is an online forum.
 
14-415.11 14-415.21 14-159.13

it's an infraction, possible $500, possible misdemeanor, possible tresspass
 
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It used to be a misdemeanor to carry past a posted door but was downgraded to an infraction. Keep in mind legally this is what it is whether you are found out or not. Concealed means concealed is NOT an argument that will ever hold up in court.
 
Alex.r said:
No reason to be condescending.i know there is a law regarding this ,I was asking if someone could state what law that is,not for your rude joke.
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I deleted my post. Do your homework yourself. Yeah...condescending.

If you want to carry, you need to get familiar with the statutes yourself. They are easily googled or any other search engine will do. If you're that lazy, maybe you should reconsider carrying. You're already trying to do a workaround, so figure it out yourself.
 
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Part of the reason why I'm on this site is the exchange of information. It's also camaraderie, as well. So it kinda irks me when someone says something like "Google it yourself".

Yes...some of that information might be easily found by a simple search. But we're a community of similarly-minded people here and that's important, too.

An answer to a question such as this is best provided with a link supporting your own answer. This way the person asking the question gets an answer with a source to back it up.

A source which that person can now refer to in the future as well.

Not every source out there is necessarily clear or easy to find.

Here's my answer:

Visit handgunlaw.us and click the link for NC.

Every page for each state is organized the same way, so you'll be able to find similar information on any state's laws in the same place on its page.

Scroll down to the section labeled "Do "No Gun Signs" Have the Force of Law?". There you'll not only find your answer, but a reference to the relevant state link as the source of that answer. This way you can go straight to the state statutes and verify it.

This is important, because even though this site does an excellent job of staying up to date, you can check the source itself to be sure.

The last page contains a list of updates. For NC, on 10/15/2021, this page was checked for all quoted statutes against the 2021 statutes.

§ 14-415.21. Violations of This Article Punishable As an Infraction.

(a) A person who has been issued a valid permit who is found to be carrying a concealed handgun without
the permit in the person's possession or who fails to disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person
holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun, as required by G.S. 14-415.11, shall be guilty of an
infraction and shall be punished in accordance with G.S. 14-3.1. Any person who has been issued a valid
permit who is found to be carrying a concealed handgun in violation of G.S. 14-415.11(c)(8) shall be guilty
of an infraction and may be required to pay a fine of up to five hundred dollars ($500.00). In lieu of paying a
fine the person may surrender the permit..

(a1) A person who has been issued a valid permit who is found to be carrying a concealed handgun in
violation of subsection (c2) of G.S. 14-415.11 shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
 
Here is an unsolicited personal safety tip. If you think you need to take a gun someplace to be safe. Don’t go there.

I make exceptions for Food Lion, their parking lot, and the open road.
 
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Alex.r said:
You’re still trying to be purposefully rude for no reason ,I have familiarized myself with the statues I just was asking for the specific number so I could look it up as it was hard to find on the website,figured I’d ask a gun forum where people have more experience here than me ,thanks you can leave out that unnecessarily rude comments next time.
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Noted. Just don't count on it.
 
GreatGazoo said:
That would rule out my own house. But, I get what you mean.
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I’m speaking of places one might not *have* to go to. Walmart, unless you live in a small town of course and that’s all there is, and malls are prime examples.
 
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Alex.r said:
The mall in Greensboro says they can sniff out gunpowder and cleaning supplies ,they are owned by a security team though not law enforcement ,pretty sure they only bring them there on the weekends for show though
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K-9 patrols can be real or for some for appearance. I will point out a security company with virtually zero power outside of calling the real badges better be careful with K-9’s and their use in a litigious happy society. A wrong bark or worse bite and somebody wins a lawsuit lottery.

A funny side story … after 9/11 various military bases were running dogs around every vehicle before allowing entrance on base. About a week into the whole thing we were entering and when we told the handler the SUV we were in makes regular trips to the range, runs for feral pigs hunts and other things that he might detect that handler kinda chuckled and told us if THIS dog alerted he‘d really be worried cause he was not an EOD K-9 … he was a cadaver dog. The K-9’s were being run so hard and thin they were using about any dog even if it was just for show.
 
fieldgrade said:
I’m speaking of places one might not *have* to go to. Walmart, unless you live in a small town of course and that’s all there is, and malls are prime examples.
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Understood. I wasn't trying to bust your chops.
 
GreatGazoo said:
Understood. I wasn't trying to bust your chops.
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Didn’t infer that at all. My statement was a broad one, and I didn’t coin it. Someone said it once, maybe here, and it just made sense.
 
Well I learned something. I was under the belief that it was only a trespassing issue and if you agreed to immediately remove the handgun from the premises there would be no consequences. I expect in most situations the management would be open to that without even contacting LE, but that's pure speculation.
 
Flashpoint said:
I expect in most situations the management would be open to that without even contacting LE, but that's pure speculation.
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I think that is a high likelihood. Assuming of course that they would ever know to begin with.
 
Flashpoint said:
Well I learned something. I was under the belief that it was only a trespassing issue and if you agreed to immediately remove the handgun from the premises there would be no consequences. I expect in most situations the management would be open to that without even contacting LE, but that's pure speculation.
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I believe that has been the experience for many here. You're just asked to leave or leave the gun in car. I think people only get charged when things escalate and get into trespass, etc. But, that's not a hard fast rule.



Snide remarks are the norm here. (especially on Friday) The type of response to snide remarks indicates that persons wiliness to be a part of the community.

Just sayin'
 
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Hmmmm. It looks like "conspicuous notice" is not defined.

I stayed at a hotel on a business trip to NC. About week two I happened to notice a simple black and white sign about 5"x8" posted behind the front desk near the back wall. Absolutely not conspicuous, defined or not, so no problem.
 
It’s as bad as asking for help on a Linux forum. Ask a question, get beat about the head with “do your own homework”

i like handgunlaw.us because they reference statutes in their write ups. You will have this question again when you travel, and they have a brief for each state.
 
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Alex.r said:
Ok ,correction ,I hope I offended every person on this website and they never emotionally or spiritually recover .am I getting the hang of this ?😎
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Better. Much better.
 
Alex.r said:
I get that ,I wasn’t trying to be rude to triple07 it’s just frustrating when other users (not them but other users private messaging me ) rude things when I’m just trying to learn.hope I didn’t offend anyone.
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No worries. If I'm going to be nasty, it's always in the open forum. I don't ever put anyone on Ignore or use PM to be nasty. On the rare occasions I take a shot at a post or poster, It's right out there for all to see. Most of us get over it pretty quick.
 
Catfish said:
It’s as bad as asking for help on a Linux forum. Ask a question, get beat about the head with “do your own homework”

i like handgunlaw.us because they reference statutes in their write ups. You will have this question again when you travel, and they have a brief for each state.
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While websites like that are great references if I am spending any real amount of time in a state I also what the actual STATE STATUTES from their official website … I have even printed them out for better review. Things like signage requirements (well defined regulated in size and posting) in SC are good to read the actual statutes for better understanding PLUS you are almost guaranteed to have the most up to date statutes since it is state maintained not 3rd party.
 
Catfish said:
It’s as bad as asking for help on a Linux forum. Ask a question, get beat about the head with “do your own homework”

i like handgunlaw.us because they reference statutes in their write ups. You will have this question again when you travel, and they have a brief for each state.
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Dude. Arch Linux forums especially.
 
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