Which is why people are becoming increasingly anti police. It's the result of systemic rot as an institution. "Minority" or really rather economically poorer communities, though there is often a strong correlation, have collectively felt the effects longer than the affluent, which is why they are the ones calling the loudest to do away with policing. It is obvious that some kind of reform or restructuring is required and we've had several threads on this subject over the years, but to keep it simple a lot of the problem stems from law enforcement being a paid career.
It's little to no different than a common street thug having the tactical drop on you. The cops aren't all that tough. Their tactics aren't all that good, either. They are designed, and often times work against, both the compliant person and the common criminal who typically isn't all that smart.
They really are lucky that the majority of the populace is peaceful and largely compliant. The incidents we've been seeing over the last several months could very well be changing that in several ways. The urban centers are becoming much more actively violent, the urban and now suburban people are losing their fantasy that police will protect them, and average people all over are getting completely fed up with seeing those whose job it is to protect the public and keep the peace fail or refuse to do so and starting to wonder exactly who or what orders are being followed.
Interesting take. Don't disagree.
My simple point is if they are there "for you" do as your told. Or the obvious will happen...
Do I think our law enforcement arm as a nation is way out of line. Yes. The profession is classified as a civil servant. Just the same as the municipal trash collector. They serve the people...
They are supposed to be there to de-escalate a situation. Find and bring the guilty party to face justice against a jury of their peers....
They are intended to do everything they are capable of (negotiation, hands on, non-lethal (pepper spray to tazer, etc.) To DE- escalate a given situation. Before they go full rambo.
That is not today's world. They go to gun as a first measure.... Over the decades they have become militarized, that is how they respond.
Knowing that as a clear fact. If one does not wish to die for their cause. One should follow the orders of the gestapo....
This whole cycle of "they killed him 'cause he didn't listen" is stupid on the face....
Yeah, as you say no different than a thug with the drop on you is stupid. But in this case. It's a group of one to infinity thugs who all back the first one. Even if that specific cop is a piece of crap and no one else likes them in their department.
They are still backed up by the whole department in a situation.
Guess I'm just dumbfounded by the fact that, regardless of your opinion of LE.
If they are giving you orders at a traffic stop, etc.... It's bad news for you if you do not comply. If you decide to ignore them, pull a weapon, act like you may do whatever. It will end BADLY for whoever...