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Millie

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Then I'll stop, maybe! Have any of you or anyone you know done their concealed carry qualifying without having shot the gun you used? Bear with me here....I've not been able to get to a range! I'm a fast learner, and the instructor said he'll give me time and be sure I'm comfortable. Comments? (I should be careful what I ask for with this bunch!!!) Be nice!
 
While it would be far preferable for you to get in some practice before hand, the shooting portion of the qualification is rather easy so with some basic instruction on grip, stance, and sight picture I am confident you will be able to pass.
 
B00ger said:
While it would be far preferable for you to get in some practice before hand, the shooting portion of the qualification is rather easy so with some basic instruction on grip, stance, and sight picture I am confident you will be able to pass.
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Thanks for the very nice reply! I'm still trying to get to shoot the gun beforehand, but it might not be possible.
 
I did not own a handgun when I took the course. They provided 22's and I used that. For qualifying id suggest you use the smallest caliber you can if they offer a 22 use that. Alot of people say use what you will carry, but I would suggest PASSING first using a 22 with no recoil, and then it is still your responsbility to take your gun to the range and practice. Believe me, 15 rounds to qualify for a CHP is nowhere near enough to say ok im ready to carry. So just make sure you pass first. My .02
 
Love2shoot said:
I did not own a handgun when I took the course. They provided 22's and I used that. For qualifying id suggest you use the smallest caliber you can if they offer a 22 use that. Alot of people say use what you will carry, but I would suggest PASSING first using a 22 with no recoil, and then it is still your responsbility to take your gun to the range and practice. Believe me, 15 rounds to qualify for a CHP is nowhere near enough to say ok im ready to carry. So just make sure you pass first. My .02
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How about my .25? I've already fired that lotsa times. Is my .38 going to have a lot of recoil? The gun guy said the rounds he gave me had less recoil, perfect for a woman or some such! I know " lot of recoil" isn't a question you can answer for me...I'm a fairly let's just say curvy woman with strong hands from wielding knives for a living! Lol.
 
.38 is a pretty tame round, but if your using a 2 inch barrel or something like that I would be more worried about accuracy. Not just about the recoil, but you have to also HIT what your aiming at. I would still suggest going with a .22 in a 4 inch or such barrel. If they dont provide that and you dont have one to use, then the 38 may be fine but check your accuracy with it.
 
Your .38 will not be that bad. It will be significantly more than the .25, but just about anything will be. If you can shoot the .25 decently, then the .38 wont be an issue. The fundamentals are the same. Just take your time and relax.
 
Love2shoot said:
.38 is a pretty tame round, but if your using a 2 inch barrel or something like that I would be more worried about accuracy. Not just about the recoil, but you have to also HIT what your aiming at. I would still suggest going with a .22 in a 4 inch or such barrel. If they dont provide that and you dont have one to use, then the 38 may be fine but check your accuracy with it.
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OK, I'll see what the guy has to offer. I really do want to shoot my gun though!!!! I think the barrel is 2.5", and we all know how some people feel about an extra half inch....did I just say that out loud? I'm probably goi g to be banned now, so if so, thanks for all the advice and the laughs!
 
Unless a student does something really stupid, and I was there when one got kicked out of a class, it's in the instructors best interest to help their students pass. You might want to take extra ammo for that very reason. I've seen guys allow enough practice that they were comfortable the student would pass on the first try. Be ready for that.
 
chiefjason said:
Unless a student does something really stupid, and I was there when one got kicked out of a class, it's in the instructors best interest to help their students pass. You might want to take extra ammo for that very reason. I've seen guys allow enough practice that they were comfortable the student would pass on the first try. Be ready for that.
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I have 100 rounds of fmj, then the 25 rounds of hollow points I got with the gun....I'll take them all! I'm determined to pass...I am a bit competitive. Anal, my brother says!
 
You can use either gun, doesn't matter. Why not shoot the .25 for qualifying then shoot the .38 there after the class? Two birds, one stone :)
 
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rotorhead said:
You can use either gun, doesn't matter. Why not shoot the .25 for qualifying then shoot the .38 there after the class? Two birds, one stone :)
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Great idea! I'll take along the .25, must get extra ammo for that...putting g it on my list...
 
While I agree with PASSING with an easier caliber pistol. Do get familiar with your revolver. I would practice a bunch of dry fire while focusing on keeping my sight picture steady. Getting used to the trigger pull. Hth
 
In Millies case dry fire would be.... pulling the trigger with NO AMMO in it. strengthen her trigger finger, while learning how the action tends to manipulate the actual pistol causing the sight picture/point of aim to change.
 
If your wanting to be responsible enough to carry a concealed firearm I strongly suggest Practicing a lot with the firearm you carry. If you not proficient and really familiar with your firearm it could possible be used against you.
So yes, please get use to firearm you are planning on carrying for your safety and the people around you. BEFORE you go to the class
 
Miss Lily said:
If you have never shot the .38, I would not try to qualify with it. I have had a large number of students (male and female) fail with the short barrel .38's, then re-qaulify using one of my .22's.
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OK I'll email him and ask if he'll have .22s on hand. Thanks!
 
Millie said:
I'm biting my tongue to keep from writing something! Oh my....
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See @Millie, you've joined a forum that welcomes gun lovers, of all persuasions, with open arms. :D
 
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If your wanting to be responsible enough to carry a concealed firearm I strongly suggest Practicing a lot with the firearm you carry. If you not proficient and really familiar with your firearm it could possible be used against you.
So yes, please get use to firearm you are planning on carrying for your safety and the people around you. BEFORE you go to the class
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I'd love to shoot it before the class, really, but I have to be here...work being g done at the house. As soon as the house is under control I'll find a range...it just might not be before the qualifying I'm sorry to say.
 
foopid stucker said:
In Millies case dry fire would be.... pulling the trigger with NO AMMO in it. strengthen her trigger finger, while learning how the action tends to manipulate the actual pistol causing the sight picture/point of aim to change.
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I thought a lot of dry firing was bad for the gun. I did that a bit before buying it, to be sure I could work the parts and hold it up and be sure it fit my hand. I could, I did and it did!
 
I'll tell you my wife's experience with going to the class.

She went to the range with me once, and shot a Buckmark (22LR). Fired a Glock 23 (.40) once while we were three an absolutely hated it. The Buckmark wasn't mine, and I didn't own a 22LR handgun at the time. So, I borrowed a bull barrel Mark II for her to take to the class.

Had shot once in her life before, and not the pistol I sent with her. We went over the basics, and she had a friend of hers go that at least knew her way around a pistol to load a mag, insert the mag, etc.

Wife scored 40/40.

Remember...you're shooting at 3, 5 and 7 yards. That's 9, 15 and 21 feet. And all you have to do is hit the silhouette.
 
BigWaylon said:
I'll tell you my wife's experience with going to the class.

She went to the range with me once, and shot a Buckmark (22LR). Fired a Glock 23 (.40) once while we were three an absolutely hated it. The Buckmark wasn't mine, and I didn't own a 22LR handgun at the time. So, I borrowed a bull barrel Mark II for her to take to the class.

Had shot once in her life before, and not the pistol I sent with her. We went over the basics, and she had a friend of hers go that at least knew her way around a pistol to load a mag, insert the mag, etc.

Wife scored 40/40.

Remember...you're shooting at 3, 5 and 7 yards. That's 9, 15 and 21 feet. And all you have to do is hit the silhouette.
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I think I'll be OK just want to get on with it. Scheduled the classes so late in the month because I hoped for cooler weather..HA! Joke's on me!
 
If you are having your house redone there should be plenty of large boxes around. Tearing our walls and have sheetrock available? A big box should hold lots of scrap sheetrock stacked flat. Have 20-25 feet of space on your yard? Easy-peasy to have a quick target for a couple of loads to get accustomed to your weapon. I hope your .38 isn't an airweight. They are great for carrying since they are light, but the felt recoil at the range gets too much too fast. A good, steel .38 with standard ammo is no problem. If you don't have a rear sight (like in your picture/avatar) you will need to get used to the sight picture and where your shots hit the target. I watched a lady shoot her first time and shoot completely under the whole cardboard target holder since she couldn't figure out the sight picture with no rear sight, just a groove in the top of the revolver.

Be sure to let us all know how your class turns out for you.
 
You can use snap caps to prevent any possible damage of dry firing. Personally I am not afraid to dry fire my guns .... EXCEPT THE RIMFIRE 22s, NEVER will I intentionally dry fire a 22 .
 
The cost of my course included ammo and the use of a suppressed .22. I recommend qualifying with a .22 as it allows you to focus on grip and stance without worrying about recoil.
 
SSgt75 said:
If you are having your house redone there should be plenty of large boxes around. Tearing our walls and have sheetrock available? A big box should hold lots of scrap sheetrock stacked flat. Have 20-25 feet of space on your yard? Easy-peasy to have a quick target for a couple of loads to get accustomed to your weapon. I hope your .38 isn't an airweight. They are great for carrying since they are light, but the felt recoil at the range gets too much too fast. A good, steel .38 with standard ammo is no problem. If you don't have a rear sight (like in your picture/avatar) you will need to get used to the sight picture and where your shots hit the target. I watched a lady shoot her first time and shoot completely under the whole cardboard target holder since she couldn't figure out the sight picture with no rear sight, just a groove in the top of the revolver.

Be sure to let us all know how your class turns out for you.
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It's called an Ultra-Lite, is that the same as air weight? Am I lining up the groove at the back with the front sight? I was thinking g of putting white on the sight, then sort of outlining g the groove with white. Bad idea?
 
Ferrisfan said:
The cost of my course included ammo and the use of a suppressed .22. I recommend qualifying with a .22 as it allows you to focus on grip and stance without worrying about recoil.
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He emailed back saying he has several .22s. He charges a bit for the ammo. But the course is way less expensive than others I've looked at, plus I get a discount, either for being old or an NRA member! I'm not extremely worried about recoil, just a bit.
 
Cowboy said:
Better explain dry fire.
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OK, I've been picking out a "target" or two at various distances and lining it up and DRY firing. The gun isn't moving much off the targets, but of course this isn't like real firing. But the gun stays in the frame of poor Mom's Navy picture which is about 15 feet away and about 9 x 12" or so. The farther one is my diploma about 20+ feet out in the hall, diploma size. Is that good? And there's no live rounds near me, as y'all said. They're in the other room! The trigger is OK to pull. Not fond of pulling back the hammer, though! It's awkward. So my aim...good, bad, what?
 
Millie said:
OK, I've been picking out a "target" or two at various distances and lining it up and DRY firing. The gun isn't moving much off the targets, but of course this isn't like real firing. But the gun stays in the frame of poor Mom's Navy picture which is about 15 feet away and about 9 x 12" or so. The farther one is my diploma about 20+ feet out in the hall, diploma size. Is that good? And there's no live rounds near me, as y'all said. They're in the other room! The trigger is OK to pull. Not fond of pulling back the hammer, though! It's awkward. So my aim...good, bad, what?
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Do you have a laser pointer (aka cat toy)? If you do, zip tie it to the barrel and watch how much it moves when you pull the trigger.
 
Ferrisfan said:
Do you have a laser pointer (aka cat toy)? If you do, zip tie it to the barrel and watch how much it moves when you pull the trigger.
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No cat toy! I'm on my own with the aiming, I guess! But a great idea....
 
Millie said:
OK, I've been picking out a "target" or two at various distances and lining it up and DRY firing. The gun isn't moving much off the targets, but of course this isn't like real firing. But the gun stays in the frame of poor Mom's Navy picture which is about 15 feet away and about 9 x 12" or so. The farther one is my diploma about 20+ feet out in the hall, diploma size. Is that good? And there's no live rounds near me, as y'all said. They're in the other room! The trigger is OK to pull. Not fond of pulling back the hammer, though! It's awkward. So my aim...good, bad, what?
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If you see movement, keep working on it. A good trigger press will not disturb the sight picture at all. When you are doing a perfect trigger press you can balance a coin on the front sight and it won't fall off as the hammer drops.
 
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